Welcome back to Tinfoil Tales! On this episode I am joined by my guest, John Gertz. John was once the director of SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) and was one of the leading people in the science community trying to discover life outside of our planet. As public interest in UFOs (or UAPs) surges, from NASA reports to Congressional hearings, the phenomena is at a boiling point. As board chair of the SETI Institute, Gertz is uniquely positioned to cut through the noise. With his forthcoming book Reinventing SETI: New Directions in the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (Oxford University Press; August 2025), Gertz is challenging the scientific establishment and confronting the pop culture mythmaking that’s clouding our view of what real contact could, and should, look like. It might not be what we think. https://www.amazon.com/Reinventing-SETI-Directions-Extraterrestrial-Intelligence/dp/0197800416/ref=sr_1_1?crid=MJCP0ALNUVWO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.91i9WAfLHWqO4VgrLtbFd5qEgxwIX0TMLf8g2vyVZHWlR6wOlndw_-iisJ-osrtN5zZUEoZV-e5SXW2_LlAFy-i5HHgRuJRb58CQLDW0o0mHDaA4LEmwyfI2gcHSGpDx55FwmvDWMsaf9CAWkggPPSUoC7ziNP-AdUgxr7iC-DqGCJkM9d9NZEnK8bKd3yjFjQ2jhtswfjX1oMwoOy4wkDKGCBplDVaBKKjql-Pwejk.5WWwdt5u9Ljctx3t_VB-IjkZmjPvqqNTGEDNVnsKpn8&dib_tag=se&keywords=john+gertz&qid=1749069150&sprefix=john+gertz%2Caps%2C92&sr=8-1 Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/tinfoil-tales--6147818/support . Tinfoil Tales Podcast - Show Notes 🎙️ Want to be a Guest? If you have a paranormal encounter, conspiracy theory, or unexplained story to share, we'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us at
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