Trump, Putin & Russia: David Corn and Michael Cohen Clash Over Ukraine, Election Interference & the Kremlin

Michael Cohen sits down with journalist and author and Washington, D.C. bureau chief for Mother Jones, David Corn for a wide-ranging and heated discussion about Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Russia, Ukraine and alleged Russian interference in U.S. elections.

Corn discusses his book How Russia Won: Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, and the Fight for America, arguing that Russia has waged years of influence and disinformation operations against the United States. Cohen challenges Corn on the evidence involving Trump, the Russia investigation, Rudy Giuliani, the 2016 election and Trump's relationship with Putin.

The conversation also tackles the war in Ukraine, Trump's efforts to negotiate with Putin, U.S. foreign policy, Russian disinformation, election security, intelligence agencies and the question of whether maintaining dialogue with Putin represents pragmatic diplomacy or goes too far.

It's a candid debate with two very different perspectives—and plenty of points where Michael Cohen and David Corn agree, disagree and challenge each other's arguments.

Listen to When You Know You Know... Unleashed with Michael Cohen for the full conversation.


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