Deep Dive with Jeff Flake on Thinking Twice

With the midterms approaching, Kelly wanted to sit down with someone who actually knows how government works — from the inside. Former US Senator Jeff Flake spent 18 years in Congress: twelve in the House and six in the Senate, and he’s no longer running for anything, which means he can say what he really thinks. Recorded at the Aspen Ideas Festival, this conversation goes places most political interviews don’t, into the real cost of principle and the quiet mechanics that actually move legislation. It’s an unfiltered look at what Washington is like when the cameras aren't rolling.Special thanks to our friends at the Aspen Ideas Festival.