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Get started at Vanta.com. 2:39 Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Getting Hammered. 2:43 I am your host Mary Catherine Hammond here with my co-host Vic Mattis of The Washington Free Beacon. 2:48 We're your morning show for any hour. 2:49 We are definitely overcaffeinated and underprepared today. 2:54 We are the news without the crash out. 2:57 There's a lot going on today, so much that I couldn't figure out what to put in the show, 3:01 But so we're just gonna we're gonna lightning round you guys to some extent but before we get to all the news 3:07 domestic and foreign 3:09 Vic how's it going? Hello, Mary Catherine. I'll stick to the domestic front right now, which is 3:14 When my kids were just about to start driving. I thought to myself 3:19 And you're gonna think this too. Maybe you've had your maybe your mind is made up already 3:23 Do I get one of those stickers to put on the back that says? 3:27 student driver or student driver please be patient or I think it's warning 3:31 student drivers so don't honk at me. We didn't have that growing up and yet I see 3:39 it here everywhere and sometimes they have multiple stickers on one car so I 3:44 thought to myself this has to be some promotional thing at school where if you 3:49 put it on you get extra points or something extra credit no not at all 3:53 It's just a more of this sort of helicopter parent element. I think of the current the current generation 3:59 Really wouldn't we grew up? I see it so much here that I assumed it was some kind of scam 4:04 Like you you get something for having it on your car not that I know of unless they didn't tell me about it 4:10 But that was one of my first questions 4:11 Then of course with my son he kind of scoffed at the idea of that like there's no way he's putting that on on his car 4:17 And he's fine 4:19 It's not to drive stick my daughter. I seriously thought about like I'm willing to put that on my car 4:25 Or or my wife's car just please like this will explain a lot when you're wondering what is going on in the car 4:33 But even she didn't want her she didn't ask for it. So she's been driving around without the sticker 4:39 Okay, yeah, and I but I have to tell you on the road the other day 4:43 I saw a new one. So mostly it says something about student driver 4:46 I saw a new one and it was an all caps and it said novice driver 4:51 That's all it said and it was in bright yellow neon 4:55 Now that must be for like if you're an adult 4:57 Maybe you're new to driving and so you don't want to say you're a kid, but novice driver, you know 5:02 So therefore he cut me some slack 5:05 Where do you stand on this Mary Katherine and again? I like to point out that I'm sure same thing with you when when we grew up 5:12 we didn't have that and if you did have a sticker my goodness what your 5:18 classmates could have done to you so when I was growing up yes of course you 5:23 would not have a sticker when I was growing up the instructor's cars had 5:29 stickers of course for that made sense yeah I kind of was assuming that in 5:35 Northern Virginia we might be over recruiting driving instructions 5:38 I was like, do we have some NGO that turns out driving instructors when like the kids 5:44 aren't even learning to drive anymore, yours are the exception to the rule. 5:48 So yeah, I don't know what that is, but there are a lot of them. 5:51 I don't think I would have done it as a teenager. 5:53 I didn't. 5:55 I also drove a stick shift 68 bug so like I could handle myself. 5:58 I mean, very cool. 6:00 And yeah, so you didn't have one on your pickup, but no, you didn't have to drive 6:03 it. 6:03 I picture you. 6:04 The other thing you got your trucker's hat on right now and driving to pick it 6:07 But as you know, I was more I was more alt than country 6:12 Of course. Okay. All right. Okay nerdy alt. Yeah 6:16 So the the 68 bug matched my vibe and I loved driving that thing man 6:22 You could you could feel every bit of the road in a 68. Yeah, there's no suspension on it 6:27 There's a there's a great one down the street from us 6:30 It has a little tarp on it because it's not one of the new but it's a genuinely from that time period and it's it's it's black 6:37 And shiny and it's just gorgeous 6:40 We as parents are we've already thought ahead about this and we're going past the sticker 6:45 Which would be the cheaper option. I'm going to grant that 6:49 Straight to self-driving car. Oh 6:51 You just threw your hands up in the air 6:54 We're like, should we save up for the Tesla for that moment? 7:01 Because it might just be good to stick the kids in the self-driving car, let them go, 7:05 but here's the problem. 7:07 I feel like the only exception I would make for this or laugh for it is if, for example, 7:11 I am in England and I'm running a car, then I would be like, please, you know, warning 7:16 yank driver for something like that to just excuse me for it. 7:20 I will say, I am worried about the world of self-driving cars, not because I don't think 7:25 they're safe. 7:25 I do. 7:26 I just think that it's important. 7:28 It's a symbol for all of this stuff. 7:31 It's important to have the skill before you have someone else take over the skill for 7:35 you. 7:36 So, if a young person is not getting the practice and the reps of, oh, I don't know, 7:43 thinking and researching, of reading, of writing, before they have new technology 7:48 helped them, they won't ever learn those skills. Same with driving. It's risky to have a teenager on 7:54 the roads and also if they don't get those reps and they don't get them early, they don't learn 7:58 that skill and then they don't have it. And every person I knew with apologies to anyone who's 8:03 listening, but every person I knew as a kid who started driving later and just didn't get with 8:09 it at 15 or 16 turned out to be not as comfortable a driver as the rest of us were. 8:14 Do they eventually become better drivers or are you saying to this day they're still not good? 8:20 I might be still to this day. All right. Well, let me I'll give one quick. It's like 8:24 learning a language. You know you want to learn it when you're young. Yes. No, it's much easier. 8:27 Just put it that way. Let's just put it that way. And I would also say if you're looking for 8:32 you're in the you're in our area, a you know, some schools you take the driving course 8:39 through the school, but other schools don't do this. And this is why you will see some 8:44 You know drivers and vehicles around and the one that our son used was called I drive smart 8:52 And it was excellent. The drivers are like their part-time instructors and otherwise their cops 8:59 so they they know what they're doing and 9:02 You got to drive out to various places and they make you do all sorts of things and once you you know 9:07 Successfully go through all the you know the various tests. They just basically sign you off and grant you the license 9:13 And so it's not one formal, today is the day of the driving test. 9:17 I don't think so. 9:18 It's sort of, it's less stressful that way. 9:20 But you eventually, I mean, you know, uh, learning about 9:23 parallel parking and stuff like that. 9:24 So, I mean, they're pretty good about it. 9:26 So anyway, there you go. 9:27 A free plug. 9:28 Did not get any money for it. 9:30 Like it's just, it's a different rite of passage these days. 9:33 It is. 9:33 It is, they have the hours. 9:35 You have to clock the hours. 9:37 Oh, interesting. 9:38 I, I like the, I like the innovation. 9:40 I do take pride in my parallel parking, having lived in the city area for many years now. 9:48 You do get a lot of practice at that. 9:50 And I once went very pregnant, parked on U Street or somewhere when there was no room 9:57 at all. 9:58 It was like eight inches on each side, if that. 10:01 And I was very proud when I got out of the car and I got a round of applause. 10:06 Did you? 10:07 People saw your belly. 10:08 Is that what it is? 10:09 be like, wow. I think it was the combo of the parking plus the belly. And I was like, 10:13 thank you very much. No, I mean, it's one of life's little pleasures is to do the successful one 10:19 shot only for a parallel parking job between two cars that are, you know, not a lot of space. 10:25 And you don't need to do any adjustment. And it's like, hey, take the win. Particularly for an 10:31 audience because, you know, it can get in your head. It does. And if you ever do it with 10:35 a lot of family members on board and everyone starts chiming in. It is not good. 10:39 Oh, God. 10:40 Or they'll tell like my mother would be like, okay, well, so and so get outside. And then, 10:44 you know, we'll tell you when to start. You know, no, you don't need that. Okay, Mary 10:48 Catherine, what else is going on with you? 10:51 You know what? Not that much. Let me tell you, I got to confess something to you guys. 10:55 There's not a major Halloween costume this year. 11:00 There's not compute. I'm just going to say that. Sometimes it's like, I don't 11:03 even understand what you mean by that. What are you talking about? 11:07 we have a lot of other things going on. I'm doing a lot of math homework, as you know. We're 11:13 getting some renovations underway. So it's a very busy month here at the house. And it turns out that 11:19 all of my four children have been raised to be independent and they have thoughts about what 11:27 they want to be. So I was trying to wrangle my little ones into being my crazy costume this 11:34 year, but they really have their sights set on some very basic costumes. 11:39 And for once, you know, you go elaborate, you've done Tombstone, you know, you go, you 11:44 go all out and then they're like, mom, can I just be a ghost? 11:47 No, seriously, my daughter's like, she wants to be a cheetah. 11:50 And I'm like, okay, well, now a cheetah is my favorite animal. 11:55 So she's sort of playing me that way. 11:57 So she's been working on her cheetah roar or cheetah. 12:02 It's very cute. 12:03 She hisses at her brother now, like when she's mad at him. 12:05 Yeah, oh yeah, it's a real method, method acting. 12:08 Yeah, it's quite a look. 12:11 So she wants to be a cheetah, 12:12 and my son wants to be a builder, 12:15 so I'm gonna make a little contractor costume, 12:18 and then my older girls are making up 12:21 whatever they wanna be, like a creepy doll 12:25 and something else. 12:27 Got it, yeah. 12:28 So I'm just gonna. 12:29 It's a freestyle Halloween. 12:30 Yeah, it's a freestyle Halloween. 12:32 How are you handling it though? How do you feel about it? 12:34 Honestly, you can tell us here on the show. 12:36 You know what? I feel okay about it. 12:38 Sometimes it's nice for someone else to take something off your plate 12:42 for you. And so that we're just, 12:44 we're going to opt out of that big old thing right at this moment. 12:47 However, there's something in me that's like, 12:50 it's October, you have to do something. 12:53 And so instead, I started making the house 12:55 into this elaborate Hogwarts castle 12:58 Because I have to do something, yeah 13:02 And I keep promising Steve that it's like not a big deal 13:05 But then I keep picking up more things and needing to put more things up 13:08 Needing he's putting it up or you're both putting it? 13:11 No, I'm doing it. But like he's like 13:13 Can we I of course was like we're keeping it simple and then I'm like but I need four giant banners for every one of the 13:20 Oh, yeah, the difference was schools 13:22 Uh, our houses and we're gonna put them on the house and we're gonna have a giant owl and we're gonna have a giant owl cage 13:29 You've added a turret 13:30 I know I mean it's like this is just who I am there has to be something well 13:35 You just way I mean cuz again, you know a couple of your girls are older 13:38 Wait for when they don't want to do the Halloween thing at all or in my case 13:44 They're going out to parties so Kate used to run 13:48 organized the Halloween block party on our street for about 10 years and she 13:52 finally handed it off I think last year successfully to you know a younger 13:57 family you know a mom with like two or three kids and and they'll be doing it 14:02 from now on but you know we did our turn on the street it was handed to us by a 14:05 neighbor whose kids went on and you know I mean my son's not gonna be there 14:09 and my daughter may or may not be there but of course it's like is there 14:11 a party going on just wait for that to happen Mary 14:15 Well, we have an extremely good Halloween neighborhood, so I'll just soak up all the fun and do some 14:24 decorating. 14:24 Pretend that they're your kids. 14:26 I'll try not to go too much further. 14:29 My mother-in-law bed, by the way, I mentioned how I kind of like candy corn, and she got 14:36 me a big bag of it, but I think for me, one goes a long way, so I think I'm gonna... 14:43 You really don't need a lot of them. 14:44 No, I like I like them too. Yes. The problem is I don't know do you offer them because it's kind of like open-air candy 14:50 Isn't it? I mean it's yeah, I don't think you offer them in a communal setting. You can't do that. All right 14:55 Okay, it has to be a relative. A little bull. Yeah, just to be social. But like not to all the strangers 15:02 You don't handle them. Okay. All right. Good. No, all right. All right. Should we get to the news? 15:06 Yeah, I don't think they actually go bad. 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I don't know if you saw this this morning. This just broke. 16:44 It is a candidate forum from Indiana, Fayette County. And once I start playing it, 16:52 you're going to understand why I'm playing it. And there's about three minutes of it, 16:55 and we can stop and comment on it while it's going. But you need to meet her 17:00 and her interlocutor. This is a woman from Fayette County, Indiana. Here we go. 17:06 All right. I'm ready. 17:07 Read your opening statement. 17:09 Okay. I didn't write one, so I'm just going to not read it. Just say it out loud for my heart. Okay. 17:18 My name is Jimmy West. I'm a mother of three. They're all grown children. They're all pretty 17:23 successful and I'm proud of them. I own a cleaning business called Queen Bee's Cleaning LLC 17:30 because I am an environmentalist I do that's why I named it that and I am a 17:35 gig worker I deliver a lot of groceries and packages for my community so if you 17:41 trust me you know delivering your groceries you trust me with your vote 17:46 you know. Vic what do you think of Jamie West? Well I'm curious is her 17:55 father by any chance Edward G Robinson yeah yeah I'm in the dry cleaning 18:00 versus queen bee's name. I'm wondering if there was a beta blocker to get the nerves down at this 18:07 candidate forum. Sure. I don't know what happened, but let's hear some more from her. And also, 18:12 I want you to observe what a stone cold professional the woman asking the questions is. 18:18 You know, you know, I'm like, come on. But I'm here because I have been going to the 18:30 Writing this legislation that goes through, Senate Bill 1, Dale Strong mentioned that 18:36 and how much it hurts our communities. 18:39 It doubled so many people's property taxes, only about 1 or 2% of all of the users benefited 18:49 from it and it harmed our communities, our rural communities especially, our schools. 18:55 And our, I love the schools, I'm total supporter of the schools and the teachers, but our emergency 19:02 services are the ones that we really need to worry about. 19:07 And I spoke to the Connorsville chief of police, or I'm sorry, fireman, the fire chief today, 19:15 Scott Jones. 19:17 And he is also very worried about what will happen to the fire stations. 19:23 I might need you to clear clean oaks out man. It makes me sad what the republicans in the state house have done 19:31 to our rural communities 19:34 So this is this reminds me of Vic at the Palms 19:37 Like like by 1130 by 1130 a.m. Really 19:43 That's that's like three more kidneys and now I really hope we don't find out later after the social comes out 19:49 Oh, she has a condition that I'll really feel horrible about double-check that just double-check that please but 19:55 Yeah, otherwise, you'll never have heard this part of the segment of the show 19:59 Wow, I would say she probably needed a little liquid courage there and that's what is going on or maybe that's just the way 20:08 She rolls 20:10 There is I I have friends from Indiana. I'd love them to verify if this is an 20:15 An Indiana accent of sorts. I know I know people from Michigan 20:19 And what that sounds like. So I need to know more. I'm curious sometimes we make 20:26 Mistakes between the police and fire. That's okay. She she's clearly concerned 20:33 Okay, you know, I'm kind of with her Mary Catherine. What are your thoughts? 20:38 Actually have to say even though it would not be great for society that this clip and there's a 10 minute clip 20:43 And I will say that everyone else in the candidate forum does not sound like this. So it is I don't think it's a regional thing 20:50 Okay, all right 20:52 It kind of made me think that drunk debating would be fun. Yeah for 20:59 the 21:00 audience, let's hear just a little bit more and 21:04 He told me that if 21:08 We don't do something different which means 21:13 To me, it means voting for Democrats that we will lose one of our firehouses. 21:20 He doesn't know which one yet. 21:22 By 2029, we're going to lose it. 21:24 Are you okay with that? 21:26 I'm not. 21:28 And so, thank you, thank you, Jamie. 21:32 There is an element, Mary-Cath, where it sounds like, because I'm not going to say 21:37 not because I relate, I'm just going to admit it, yes, I can relate, where it 21:42 It sounds like she's in the verge of burping. 21:44 Yes. 21:45 Or something more. 21:47 Or something maybe a burp, you know? 21:49 Throughout the clip, she's like really interesting a lot. 21:54 It's sort of right here, right? 21:55 Right below the throat. 21:56 It's like, it's about to come up. 21:58 The diaphragm is fighting. 22:00 The diaphragm is fighting. 22:01 And as a result, when you're not feeling it, 22:04 too, when you're feeling like something's 22:05 going to happen, you get that steel jaw. 22:07 So you kind of like you just hunker down. 22:11 And she's powering through it. 22:12 man. So you're saying she's a candidate with fortitude is what you're saying? Yes. No, I mean, 22:17 again, who among us? You know, I mean, you know, again, and that's the key. The key is the, if 22:26 you get, if you start to get a little slurry, you should get concerned. Again, if there's a 22:30 condition, I apologize. But if the condition is, you know, if the condition is what my 22:37 occasional condition is, believe me, you have to be able to put on, I used to do this shtick, 22:43 like, okay, now act sober. Can you act? And it's like, and then I would go, hey, what's up, you 22:49 know, and then just give the talk, you know, and if you could do it, and I'd like to see her do, 22:54 hey, what's up, chat. So there's several other priceless moments in there. But at the end of 23:00 her opening statement, which she didn't write, she goes, well, that's my opening statement. 23:04 And then at the end of the clip, the stone cold question asker who like has the most 23:11 poise of any person. 23:13 She never cracks a smile. 23:15 She just asks straight questions the whole way through the 10 minutes. 23:19 And at the end she says, well, you have just a few moments to end with whatever you'd 23:23 like to, whatever message to the people. 23:27 And she goes, oh, we have guns too. 23:30 Yeah. 23:32 Again, I think I'm more inclined to vote for her than not. 23:35 No. 23:36 So what I'm afraid of is that in this, in this attention economy, in this attention economy, 23:42 this just went viral, she's going to get all these votes. 23:46 The poor guy who's like, his name is like Jerry Denny Jr., who could not attend due 23:52 to other business obligations, may end up not waiting this seat because of this clip. 23:59 So maybe I'm part of the destruction of society. I'm sorry. That's uh, 24:04 That's a great clip Mary Kat. It's a lot. It's a lot. Okay moving on after that 24:11 That national debut of that candidate shall we go to the national debut of the new press secretary? 24:18 We got I got a this is a clip-heavy show. I got a few clips for you. All right 24:22 So we have the debut today of the new White House press secretary 24:25 Caroline Lovett went on her way to spend more time with her family probably the first person who's ever 24:29 said that and actually meant it. She's now a Fox News contributor, which is a lighter 24:33 gig than the White House Press Secretary. So you've got Katie Zacharias stepping into 24:38 her shoes. Her previous role was a communications advisor for Trump Media and Technology Group 24:44 and she worked briefly at the Department of Homeland Security. And so she took the podium 24:49 today. I don't know much about her. She has four kids. She doesn't live in D.C. 24:52 yet, but they're all coming to D.C. So here's the beginning of her presser today. 24:56 Good morning. I am so honored to work for President Trump and the American 25:08 people as the new White House Press Secretary. I want to... she did about 14 25:15 minutes she took three questions look she's nervous it's clear who would be 25:20 nervous room the pack of pack of wild dogs a rocky start I would say she's 25:26 going to have to, I think, pick up the clip a little bit on the cadence because in order 25:33 to push down all of these folks in that room, you've got to be on your toes, as Carolyn Leavitt 25:40 often was and as many of the fast talkers who have been press secretary have done. 25:46 So we'll see how it goes. 25:49 What do you think, Rick? 25:50 Okay. 25:50 I have a couple of thoughts, Mary Catherine. 25:52 One, perhaps the slower cadence will slow down and throw off the wild and rabid press, 26:01 you know, the anti-Trump press, because it's like, you know, when somebody's doing too 26:07 well playing craps and they got to bring in a cooler, and perhaps Miss Acariah is the 26:12 cooler and all of a sudden, it's like, wait, you got to change new dice, wait, 26:17 new croupiers, we're just changing everybody around, wait, hold on, and then they don't 26:21 know what questions to ask anymore, okay? So maybe if she slows things down, it throws them off, okay? 26:26 That's one theory. The second thing is the opening. I would love if she opened every press, you know, 26:37 briefing by saying good morning in that way. I wish you would do that too, Mary Katz, for our 26:50 woman and she, I don't know for some reason, they would stay at our house when we were kids. 26:55 And it's like she was part of a religious group or something, and, and, and, and, and 27:00 the first thing she said to my sister, and I was, good morning. And I just liked that 27:05 idea of good morning like this. And they're like, well, what's happening here? And so, 27:09 you know, that, that's relatable. And then, and finally, I'm not going to make any 27:17 superficial judgments about her, that people on social media are having a field day. It's 27:24 not very fair, you know, whether or not she is our Korean John Pierre or not, you know, 27:28 that all remains to be seen. I'm not casting any judgment in this version. I do feel the 27:35 same way I felt as a kid when I would watch Three's Company. And, you know, I loved 27:41 Chrissy, played by Suzanne Summers. And one day it wasn't Chrissy Snow, it was 27:46 her cousin Cindy Snow who replaces her. And I'm like, wait a minute, what happened here? 27:52 What's the same? What's going on here? I kind of feel that way. Chrissy to Cindy is same 27:58 as Caroline too. 27:59 A timely and appropriate reference. 28:02 That's my assessment. Mary, Katherine, what are you, and again, this is, it's a tough 28:06 job, man. What are you? 28:07 Okay. Actually, this is a thing that is worth noting that is, it is a tough job. 28:13 And I would have trouble doing it just because I only play myself on TV. Yeah 28:18 I'm I can't do the thing where it's like they give you things to say and you go out there and it is this very hard line to 28:26 Walk where you're trying to be responsive to reporters, but you're also combative with reporters 28:31 And if you leave a vacuum and you give them nothing they'll fill it with nonsense 28:36 But if you don't fight back enough 28:39 they'll go in all sorts of crazy directions. And, and then also you got to, you know, 28:45 try not to get caught doing something dumb up there. It's a, it is a tough job. And to do it 28:51 elegantly is a very hard job. I think, you know, Tony Snow, one of my faves over the years, 28:56 Dana Perino, there are, you know, sweatier, more nervous versions of it that we've seen 29:02 throughout the years of the McClellan variety, Caroline Leavitt very polished, and I think 29:10 Saki similarly, right, was, look, I don't love the job that she did for Biden, but she did it in a 29:20 fluent, quick way that made people feel like she was getting the job done. 29:27 They benefited because they had a very sort of pliant price. I mean, even with Kareen 29:31 John Pierre from things I have heard behind the scenes before they all go on the air. 29:35 They love her. 29:36 They're gushing about her. 29:37 They're joking with her. 29:38 I love the way you look. 29:39 Look at this new dress. 29:40 Look at it. 29:40 They're hugging. 29:41 They're kissing. 29:41 I mean, this is directly, I heard this from another reporter in the room who is not a 29:47 mainstream or on the left. 29:49 So she saw this with her own eyes, like, eh, you know, and that's, and that's, 29:53 so I mean, it's not, everyone talks about, you know, the Trump administration, but 29:57 honestly, you know, in the previous administrations, same thing. 30:02 John Dizzy, who for years covered the White House with human events, and then now I think at Newsmax, 30:11 interviewed him once and asked him, you know, rank his rankings of press securities that he dealt 30:17 with. Obviously, I think number one was Tony Snow. He really liked Tony. On the other side, 30:24 And he liked Mike McCurry, who was Clintons, and actually, Josh Ernest and the fellow who 30:38 ended up working for, I forget his name now, Carney. 30:43 Carney, Jay Carney. 30:44 Yeah, did not like him. 30:46 Yeah. 30:46 Apparently not. 30:47 Apparently not. 30:47 Yeah. 30:48 I just want to say that. 30:49 All right. 30:49 Well, we'll see what happens. 30:50 One of the things she announced in her 14 minutes in three questions was um, she was asked 30:56 Hey, what's the deal with Kimberly Guilfoyle? 30:58 There's still a lot of scandal going on there and she goes. Yeah, the president asked her to resign 31:03 So that she broke some news 31:05 I guess look she gave the press what they wanted there. She broke some news date one. Yeah, and it was a very 31:12 Quick statement 31:14 Should we've asked her to resign we appreciate her work move it along 31:18 Yeah, that was that would that was like the you know that the two the double tap 31:23 Yeah, to the head. It was they're not gonna draw this one out. It was done not at all 31:29 Went out it either either at the same time or shortly afterwards. Yeah. Yeah 31:34 So Kimberly Guilfolden then got herself into a bunch of trouble. What a what an arc for this woman by the way 31:41 She was previously so she started out as a prosecutor in 31:46 California. At one point, she's married to Gavin Newsom. She's married to Gavin Newsom. 31:52 She was the first lady of San Francisco, I guess, very glamorous. She then ends up at 32:00 Fox News and rises there, co-host of The Five for all those years, then starts dating Don 32:07 Jr., Donald Trump Jr. They were in a very long-term relationship. 32:11 Long-term engagement. 32:11 engagement. Yeah, that's right. It was a very long engagement. She's always a bit of a yellow flag. 32:17 It is. So they never get married. In fact, they break up and shortly after they break up, I'm not 32:24 sure what exactly what the timeline was there, but she ends up the ambassador to Greece. So like, 32:29 there's just, there's a lot going on there. There's a lot going on there. And just recently, 32:34 she's come into some some scandal and so she's resigned under these allegations of 32:42 improper conduct which basically included asking I believe just donors to pay off 32:48 $100,000 in American Express debt so that she could have that cleared for her 32:55 ambassadorship. I think there's other issues too but that's the one that 32:59 struck me as pretty chintzy. Yeah, it's interesting. And I was actually thinking of mentioning this at 33:06 the outset of the show. A personal announcement, Mary Catherine, which is that I am also now in the 33:12 market for a job to be ambassador to Greece. Yeah. And let me give you my qualifications, 33:20 kind of giving my qualifications. So I went to, as you know, Georgetown University School of Foreign 33:25 service. I have a very impressive cumulative GPA of 3.29. 33:30 That's not bad. 33:31 No, not bad. 33:32 This was pre-grade inflation on one every once in a while. 33:36 Yes. And there was also no, not much study either. I have a European study certificate 33:41 focusing on NATO, which is true. I know on, we all know, my area of interest and specialty 33:50 was Germany, but Germany did invade Greece. So there is a connection there. And also, I love Greek food. 33:59 So, that is an important part of the role. 34:01 Musaka, gyro, or is it gyro, or is it gyro? What is it? 34:06 I think we should just go with gyro and not try to be something we're not. 34:11 No, I don't know. 34:13 Although that could be a question in your confirmation. 34:16 Yeah, during confirmation. How do you pronounce G-I-R-O? 34:18 You should look up, you should look that up. 34:20 Kirol, it may be perhaps it's Kirol. 34:22 And also most importantly, 34:23 I just paid off my American Express bill. 34:26 And no, this is true. 34:28 I paid it off yesterday because the notification came in 34:30 and I scrutinized like all the items. 34:35 Like who bought what, 34:37 who bought something from something called 34:38 White House Black Market? 34:39 What is that? 34:40 What is that? 34:41 What does that pre-tell? 34:42 Yeah, that sounds suspicious, 34:44 White House Black Market. 34:45 So, Guilfoyle, as you mentioned, yeah, she was like a star prosecutor coming out of San 34:51 Francisco, and then she was with Gavin Newsom, and then, and here she is now. 34:56 The problem was this weird relationship she had with Eric Dieters, who is the Kentucky 35:04 Republican donor and sometime candidate, did not work out for him, and they're in 35:09 the middle of a war. 35:09 So, I think I'm beginning to suspect who's leaking the emails, but yeah, she had asked 35:18 him, as you mentioned, for $100,000 to help pay off her Amex bill before she gets confirmed. 35:27 He did not because there had been previous promises made and Dieter says that nothing 35:35 ever came of it. 35:37 And so he's, and he said, you know, if I, because she said to him, please, you know, in quote, it won't show up anywhere if you wire money to American Express. 35:49 Except for in these texts. 35:51 Except for in these texts. 35:52 And she, and she had scolded him in the past for, you know, mentioning things in emails in Texas, are you crazy? Just, you know, contact me through signal, call me on signal, she says. 36:03 And so that's out there. 36:06 And she had made some promises, for example, in the past of like, I can connect you with, you know, 36:13 folks in the administration. He had some IRS issues, apparently, or something he needed to talk 36:19 about. And she also previously claimed that she could get him on Tucker Carlson's show. And 36:26 the best thing, this was reported in the Wall Street Journal. The funniest part was the 36:31 journal, then reaching out to Tucker Carlson, who says that, you know, she has no control 36:38 over who we choose as a guest. And who would honestly like pay a million dollars to get 36:45 somebody on a podcast? And isn't she isn't she? And he asks, he says, isn't she the 36:50 ambassador in Greece? This is nuts. Okay, I'm just saying, I mean, when Tucker's calling 36:56 your nuts like we're in a special place. Can I also mention he paid, he paid her an honorarium 37:02 for her speaking appearance of $300,000. And in 2025 in February she reported 37:12 podcast income, Mary Catherine, podcast income of $800,000. Wow. I'm wondering where my share is 37:20 of getting hammered. We've got a, well, you know, 37:24 There's no money coming in here, Vic. Don't worry about it. No one will see it if you just wire it to AmEx is what I'm saying. 37:30 Wire it to me. No one will know. Wire it to me. 37:34 For her part, her lawyers reject allegations of impropriety related to both her travel on private planes saying that before each trip 37:43 she sought obtaining followed State Department guidance and followed the Department's travel regulations. 37:47 They also say that she didn't do anything wrong with the Trump donor and that was payment for services for public appearances 37:55 and speaking engagements that predated her 37:57 ambassadorial nomination and had not been paid. 38:01 So that's, that's what that was. 38:05 Two things caught my eye. 38:06 One thing caught my eye and I did a little digging on this, which is she was one of the things she claimed in 38:13 earnings had to do with the launch of a vodka. 38:15 And as you know, I wrote about a history of vodka called vodka. 38:21 You can get on the Barnes and Nobles, check it out or Amazon or wherever. 38:26 And she was connected to two vodka brands. 38:29 One of them was called American Dream and another one is called Polished Rice. 38:35 I'm not so sure about that and that launch got derailed. 38:39 It was supposed to be the summer of 2026 and did not yet happen. 38:42 and that was related to her being in Greece 38:47 and there are lots of questions 38:49 about her helping certain Greek businessmen. 38:52 So we'll see. 38:54 Okay. 38:55 She denies any, all sort of. 38:58 She denies all of these things 38:59 and I think it's probably best that she'll be moving on. 39:02 Allegations to be fair. 39:03 I wanted to know on the other hand in Greece 39:06 we had a beautiful performance from Marco Rubio 39:11 playing the part of presidential normal politician figure from yesteryear, which is something I 39:20 crave on the national stage. He's basically the only one playing that role right now. 39:28 It's the only one in politics. But I think it's worth doing. Actually, no, there are two. 39:33 The analog to him is John Ossoff. John Ossoff does these sort of like soaring speeches 39:38 is shot in sort of grandiose ways in such a way that he sounds responsible, intelligent, 39:49 not crazy. 39:51 Rubio, of course, is my preferred of these two. 39:55 He goes to Greece last week to give a speech about Western civilization on October 7th 40:03 purpose to illustrate that we are actually in a fight for Western civilization and many 40:10 of those forces of the left are aligned with even crazier forces who hate Western civilization 40:17 and I just loved to see it. 40:21 It was the staging was beautiful, the speech was smart, the advancemen deserve all the 40:29 raises for the magic hour acropolis? Are you kidding? 40:33 I actually have that in my notes, Mayor Catherine, magic hour, because it was. And for those not 40:40 in the know, that is a movie term between just around dusk time. And the sun has that special 40:47 glow. And there are certain directors, like Terrence Malick, who just wait for that moment 40:52 To do that thing, you know, but no it was it was a truly impressive 40:59 Backdrop and I'd like to direct listen to Mike Watson 41:02 Our columnist at the Free Beacon who wrote about it and the importance of embracing Western virtues now more than ever 41:09 There are aspects of what he what Rubio talks about that other cultures could say oh we do that too 41:16 Or we do this too, but not all together in the way that is truly Western 41:21 And it's truly American because, you know, we, as Rubio points out, you know, not all 41:26 of us can say that we're Greek per se, but of this, but we could all trace our roots 41:32 to that, that idea, that Greek idea of citizenship and that, I mean, certainly that's what makes 41:37 Americans American, you know, there's that, you know, we carry on that particular tradition, 41:43 regardless of where we all came from, because it's our beliefs in the ideas of democracy. 41:49 Well, and it just feels like so few people are invested in or capable of defending Western 41:55 civilization. 41:56 Yeah, we're learning about it in school, yeah. 41:58 And so to have a very prominent person do that on that day to illustrate that yes, perhaps 42:06 even in America when you see hordes of people with Hamas and Hezbollah flags in addition 42:11 to the Palestinian flag marching in the streets and calling all of civilization outside 42:18 of those forces bad, we might be in a little bit of a fight here, and we should be having 42:24 some self-respect for the values that we love. 42:28 Let me ask you this, too, which is, it can't just be awesome, a handful of other people 42:34 who think that Rubio is great, right? 42:36 I mean, there's got to be more people out there hoping for 20-20-yay. 42:40 Yes. 42:41 The issue is, of course, that those people don't control primaries. 42:47 So, on both sides, okay, so John Assoff would be the rational, pretty good, talented, young, 42:54 up-and-coming speaker on the left who won a swing state, right, several times, if he indeed wins 43:02 over Mike Collins this time, which it seems like he's pretty much put that away. 43:05 How much, yeah, go ahead. 43:08 I was going to say, but here's the issue with him. He was asked about Israel, and he 43:13 couldn't say the thing that the left of the party wants him to say, which is Israel's 43:17 committing genocide, which is of course a lie, but they force everyone to say the lie. 43:22 And he didn't say the lie, which is going to make him unacceptable. 43:26 Now, he said a bunch of nasty things about Israel and suggested that there's money we 43:30 shouldn't spend on whatever arms. 43:33 He didn't do the thing. 43:35 And if he doesn't do the thing, the primary voters of the Democratic Party are not 43:38 going to elect him. 43:39 You have to be all in. 43:40 It's not it's not enough that you're 90% of the way there 43:44 I mean if you look at the people who protested against mom Donnie on October 7. They weren't these are people who were not 43:52 Saying that he's too sympathetic to Hamas. These are people who were saying that he was sympathetic to Israel, right? 43:59 That's crazy. Yes, so I mean you're right 44:02 Yeah, they said you can't hide we we charge you with genocide. Yeah mom Donnie 44:10 Genocide is just a word for things that lefties find medium annoying. That's right. That's what they're into 44:18 And he said my children say that they don't like my cooking. I'm just gonna genocide. That's genociding your genociding genociding your skills. So yes, uh 44:29 No, it with Ossoff and your attraction to him as a candidate to be sure 44:34 It is that he had a complete makeover 44:38 He's not this scrawny little guy. 44:40 He's getting his makeup artist as a woman who did stuff for movies like The Notebook, you know? 44:46 I mean, so. 44:47 Okay. 44:47 As reported in the video. 44:48 This actually is important. 44:50 Going to the gym is the best thing he ever did to improve his chances. 44:55 I'm serious. 44:56 He didn't look like a plausible, rising, important man when he was a little pencil 45:04 neck. 45:05 Right. 45:05 He just didn't and then he went to the gym and he got some decent fitting clothes and he looks more authoritative 45:12 And he's not a bad-looking guy and that stuff matters 45:16 Can I say only on getting hammered when you get the truth? 45:22 Mary Kaffin's gonna tell you exactly. What's working for him? 45:25 It's not a policy ship so much. It is a other ship. So yeah, I mean look it matters people people care about that stuff 45:33 Um, so Ruby on the other hand, he will have to run in a Republican primary where JD Vance would 45:39 presumably be the front runner at this point. Um, although I don't think Trump is going to back 45:45 either of them. Trump really enjoys withholding and being a kingmaker, a kingmaker in waiting. 45:50 Like I might, I might, um, right. He wants to back a winner, but he might not know who the 45:56 winner is until he watches this primary process play out. Is that what you're saying? 45:59 Yeah. And Rubio seems undecided on whether he would run. Vance has said just recently 46:05 he's undecided on whether he would run. So we'll see. But I do think that the more conventional, 46:14 professional, responsible vibe of the Asaf and Rubio type might be rejected on both sides. 46:23 Right. I mean, likewise, you're not going to see on the Democratic side, 46:26 Josh Shapiro or even Rahm Emanuel, even though they're both very tough on Israel right now, 46:30 but, you know, for, I think, for very obvious reasons. 46:34 Is the problem with the Democratic Party that we've been talking about for the last little bit? 46:38 Okay. Can we do a few debate? 46:43 So I want to, I want to do, this is out of, a couple of them don't really matter, 46:49 but the clips are so great that I'm just going to give them to you. 46:51 I want to talk about Seretha for New York. So Seretha Kometra Reddy is running 46:57 against Letitia James in New York for AG. And man, this chick is very 47:06 talented and she's very unlikely to be able to knock off Letitia James in 47:12 New York. It's a Democratic party state. It's a Democratic machine. But man, the 47:19 messaging. This woman has what I called an easy authoritative nerd vibe that is just like, 47:26 she's very confident, she's not off-putting, she's telegenic, she's sweet, but she's like, 47:31 she's like, hammering. What does she do? She flattened her in the debate that the two of 47:36 them had. I imagine she might have been a debate kid in high school because she's 47:41 just killing it here. Here's just one of her answers. 47:45 Under your leadership, violence against women has surged. 47:49 Domestic violence victims in New York City have gone up 41 percent. 47:54 In the rest of the state, 16 percent. 47:57 Orders of protections are up, strangulation is up, strangulation charges are up. 48:02 In fact, when I go around and talk to young women at the colleges and universities and 48:06 even high schools in New York, they don't feel safe walking down the street, going 48:10 to get lunch or taking the bus to go visit their parents. 48:15 In addition to that, when you had a sexual assault, credible sexual assault allegation 48:19 against your chief of staff, you covered it up instead of revealing it because you were 48:23 in the middle of an election and you let him have full pay until the end of the year 48:27 instead of terminating him immediately like your whistleblower. 48:30 You also hired Harvey Weinstein's henchmen and gave them $4 million of taxpayer money. 48:38 How can you defend your record of anti-women behavior? 48:44 And how have you failed women in New York so severely? 48:49 So extremely authoritative, smart, hammering the points. 48:55 Just can we have her as press secretary? 48:58 I think that would not be the best use of her of her talents. 49:02 The question you point this out is going to make a difference and you don't think 49:08 at will. I find that to be thoroughly depressing because I think anybody who's still able to 49:15 think on their own independently and not just be like, oh, is it a D or an R at the end 49:21 of the name and that's going to determine it for me, is going to listen to that thing. 49:25 Clearly, one side is more competent than the other. And the other has that track record 49:29 and it's not a good track record. So that's the thing. 49:31 So bad. 49:32 She can point out, oh, well, I have more experience than she does. Yeah, but look 49:36 at the experience that Lucissa James has, it's not great. 49:39 And there are so many different points in that debate. 49:41 There was no question across the board, people were saying, 49:44 and all sorts of people were saying that she won that, 49:48 she won that debate. 49:50 And you're telling me that that doesn't make a difference. 49:54 Well, look, if you're gonna make a dent, 49:56 or you're gonna make a run for it, 49:57 this is the way to do it. 49:58 She made quite a splash, she got a ton of attention. 50:01 I think it's one of those things 50:02 that would probably need to build over several races. 50:05 She'd have to have like, you know, a bunch of a bunch of real campaign apparatus with her for getting out the vote and all that kind of thing, too. 50:13 Look, also though, you know, various very blue areas have taken turns because they get fed up with the likes of Laetitia Jeans who could not even answer when asked who was an AG of the past that she admired. 50:26 She couldn't, she couldn't even come up with one. 50:28 I'm going to play one more thing from Sorita just because all Republicans should be copying her messaging. 50:33 Here's an ad. 50:35 Just Fight Crime. 50:36 When crooks steal a car, your insurance goes up. 50:39 When scammers siphon money for Medicaid, 50:41 healthcare costs go up. 50:43 When Tish James forces solar and wind, 50:45 electric bills go up. 50:47 My name is Saritha. 50:48 I'll be a different kind of attorney general. 50:51 The Tisha James spent 10 million bucks 50:53 making herself a celebrity. 50:55 My motto is my career. 50:57 Just Fight Crime. 50:59 Just Fight Crime, man. 51:02 If only it were that easy. 51:04 But it is sort of depressing that there's gonna be voters out there who will see that and say oh, that makes sense 51:09 Oh, she's great. Oh wait when we look at the oh, no, I'm gonna vote for the Democrat 51:12 Yeah, regardless of how bad it is and you I mean you're right 51:16 There is a threshold at some point when things get bad enough that they'll actually 51:21 Decide to vote for the other party. I mean, you know, New Yorkers have voted for George Pataki to be a Republican for governor 51:27 Or Republicans in the Senate or as mayor of New York for that matter 51:31 But it's sad that it's a very high-threshold like Democrats can do still a lot worse and still remain in power 51:40 So yeah, I think it's I do think it's interesting that two of the most promising 51:46 candidates I've seen in terms of just straight skill have come from 51:51 Places that are super blue Spencer Pratt and Saritha here are 51:56 clearly both naturally talented 51:59 speakers 52:00 communicators and they come out of these super blue places where I think they 52:05 experience the downsides of these cities and areas and go, can we 52:12 please talk about common sense? And it turns out maybe that doesn't win the day. 52:17 Not yet. It'd be nice if it did. Can I play you one out of New Jersey? But again 52:23 is like just a just a great debate moment. This is Cory Booker's adversary, Justin Murphy, the 52:33 Republican running for Cory Booker's seat. Again, it's New Jersey. Cory Booker's very established. 52:38 I think you've read a little bit about Justin Murphy. You can tell us about him when we come 52:42 back. Let me play the clip for us of this answer on Iran from Justin Murphy. 52:48 That's right President Trump calls you and says I'll do whatever you want. What do I do in Iran? 52:54 What's your answer to finish it? Finish that war in a positive manner. We can't wait halfway through 53:00 and decide we don't want to do this anymore. The Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps is a 53:05 radical terrorist organization that has deprived the Iranian people and the Persian people of 53:10 their history and of a decent life. They have murdered, raped, tortured, assassinated, promoted, 53:16 terrorism all throughout the world, especially in the region of the Middle East. 53:20 They are a cancer on human existence. I remember the young boy watching those 53:23 walls of our November of 1979 watching the radical Islamic terrorists 53:28 storm over the walls of our embassy and 52 Americans held for 444 days. 53:33 Ever since November of 1979, the IRGC in Iran has done nothing but 53:38 export terror, murder, rape, oppression and assassination to the region 53:42 into the world and its time it stops four decades is enough the Iranian people have suffered enough 53:48 and i would say mr president put your cowboy hat on and get out there and kick some ass and get this 53:52 done and done right the edit is of course that's that edit is in post that wasn't that wasn't ambiance 54:05 in the room no um yeah and not our edit to be sure no but i do i really appreciate the answer 54:12 because you could tell you can see booker's face throughout he's shocked that this man is 54:18 Answering in a passionate and affirmative way about this war. He's like because Booker is like 54:22 Oh, you're supposed to shrink and say this is all very bad and icky and I do think if you had like 54:29 I don't know 35% of what that guy just gave us from Trump over the last nine months 54:35 You might see better numbers. Yeah on the Iran. Yeah, endeavor. That's right. Yeah 54:41 He's he's 54:42 Sounds like a very interesting guy very New Jersey and by I when I mean New Jersey 54:47 I mean he's from the sticks right and I can say this because I'm from Thomas River and he's south of me 54:54 He's an attorney 54:56 From 54:57 Tabernacle Township, which is in Burlington County. That is a it's the what they call the the gateway to the pine barons 55:05 Right, you know, some of you will remember pine barons from the episode into the sopranos 55:12 And it's out there, it's a, the Pine Barrens is an area of preserve national forest, approximately 55:21 the size of the Grand Canyon, I mean it's huge, okay, and the problem with that of course 55:27 is the population from where he is in that county is like, I don't know, 7,000 people. 55:33 I mean that's like the size of, I don't know, one block in Jersey City where Cory 55:37 book used to be a mayor, right? Or a Newarker. And so, um, I wouldn't be surprised if off-camera 55:44 Corey, because he knows he's going to crush him anyway, probably said, you know, that was 55:49 really good. See you later, buddy. I might use some of those notes, you know, but, again, 55:55 it is a shame because, you know, under other circumstances, look, people didn't expect 56:01 much from Jack Chittarelli a couple years ago. And he almost pulled it off. It didn't do so well the 56:07 second time around, but certainly he almost defeated Phil Murphy. And that reminded me, 56:12 the one thing that Justin Murphy should have done going into this race is perhaps change his 56:17 first name to Phil. Maybe that's a middle name or something. Imagine that. He could pull a Dan 56:24 Sullivan. Yeah, take a page out of the Dan Sullivan Democrat book in Alaska where they 56:30 We don't talk about this enough, but shamefully ran a man, Democrats did, with the same name 56:36 as Dan Sullivan, the incumbent Republican senator, to try to draw votes from Dan Sullivan, 56:41 the actual senator. 56:41 And he will be siphoning votes away in a very close race. 56:45 Real quick, I wanted to point out that I watched some of the El Sayed, Mike Rogers, 56:50 debate. 56:51 El Sayed, I find him very off-putting with the arrogance and the, he's always 56:56 turning on whoever's asking him a question instead of just answering the question. 57:01 A friend of ours, Mary Catherine, who was definitely not a Trump fan, 57:05 said that he watched it and he thought that Syed was obnoxious. He's a smooth talker. 57:11 Supposedly he's got this charisma, but you know what? He came off as obnoxious. 57:15 He has a thing that works in short form video, which is something you need as a candidate these 57:21 days. Yeah. But I don't think it wears well over a longer period of time. And his tendency 57:29 is sort of like Biden, but in a smoother way, just to reject any question he doesn't like 57:34 and to say that that person's stupid for answering the question. And he's done it to friends 57:37 of ours on the trail, Audrey Fahlberg, formerly of National Review, asking, asking a, 57:42 I think he's with Free Press now, asking perfectly legit questions about a free 57:46 can scoop. That's right. And he's just like, that's a stupid question move. It's like, okay. 57:51 Right. And that was a question about the, where, you know, there's actual leaked audio with him 57:56 and campaign strategy talking about how he doesn't want to bring up the death of Ayatollah Khomeini 58:00 and Dearborn because it makes the citizens of Dearborn sad, which I think is probably true. 58:07 Yes. And something worth asking about. What is asking about it because this is a man who, 58:12 You know say it goes around talking about Israel committing genocide and he doesn't want to bring up a man 58:18 Responsible for the deaths of at least 50,000 Iranians in the last few years, right? 58:24 Or being able to convince or being able to convincingly say Hamas is bad full stop 58:30 He can't do that. I can't do that either. He can't say whether Iran or Israel is the more dangerous 58:36 Oh, yeah, no, they both are in different ways 58:38 Ridiculous country. It's a ridiculous question. 58:41 But he eventually said that they are both terrible in different ways. And you know, Iran sure, 58:48 you know, they've killed Americans, but Israel drags us into wars, unnecessary, 58:53 stupid wars, I think is what he said, which by the way has been what people have been saying 58:57 about the Jews since, I don't know, World War One. 59:00 Well, and then there's in the debate, he was asked in part about his connections, 59:05 both by Rodgers and moderators, about various connections to either funders of Islamist-type 59:14 groups. By the way, he's in his own hand signed onto a letter to Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood-backed 59:22 president of Egypt in 2012 to say, crush the press. I think you can take that into account 59:30 without being Islamophobic since it's him signing the letter. He also has connections to his sister 59:37 who has tweeted that his family's been Muslim brotherhood forever. He has connections to his 59:42 birth mother. He wasn't raised, I think, in Michigan by her, so that's why they say birth mother. 59:48 And his father-in-law who have financial connections to NGOs that funded bin Laden 59:53 lays all pretty wild stuff that is documented. And then when he's asked about it as a 60:00 follow-up and his first move is to say I hate your question moving on and then he's asked that as a follow-up 60:05 He'll do he'll he said no they have no connection 60:08 And then he's pushed on it again because people have evidence and he's like that's debunked and racist and 60:14 It's neither debunked nor racist and I will not be going back to 2020 60:19 We're saying debunked and racist was a substitute for facts. I do not appreciate it. No 60:24 Yeah, I'll meet the press. It was Kristen Walker who asked him 60:27 about he or any member of his family 60:30 connected to the Muslim Brotherhood. 60:32 And he sort of looked away and said, no. 60:36 And as the Free Beacon reports, 60:38 Abdul Al Sayed's sister had mentioned 60:41 about the mother's involvement with the Muslim Brotherhood. 60:44 And as you mentioned, he was a big fan of Morsi, 60:47 who of course is also the Muslim Brotherhood 60:51 backed leader of Egypt at that time. 60:54 So. 60:54 He keeps lying about it, but it's neither debunked nor racist. 60:58 So, oh, we need to get to where we have to close out soon, but we have to get to Talarico. 61:07 So Talarico was off the trail for I'm going to be conservative and say nine days. 61:13 Okay. 61:15 His campaign said he had the flute. 61:17 But he went to New York, came down with something, was seen on a Zoom on September 30th, looking 61:25 ill, like sniffly, and then didn't do anything from that day till, I think, October 9th. 61:34 Now some say also he was off the trail physically a couple days before that as well, but we're 61:38 going to use the conservative number of night days. 61:40 He's off the trail for nine days. 61:41 And the media is totally uninterested in why a young, otherwise healthy man is off the trail 61:49 when he should be working harder than he's ever worked in his entire life in a Texas Senate race 61:54 for nine days. And this then spurs. So we got distrust and disinterest over here. And then we've 62:03 got idiot made up stories over here because then some people who are incentivized by clicks 62:10 and conspiracy theories come up with this idea 62:13 that he took a private jet to a rehab facility 62:17 and he had a mental breakdown 62:19 and then they seems to me fabricate recordings 62:23 that go viral on X of trying to get in touch 62:26 with this facility where by the way, 62:28 no medical person is gonna give you information 62:31 when you're just randomly calling 62:32 into a facility about a patient. 62:34 That's not how that works. 62:36 And as a result, that story became the story 62:40 which granted, those people should be debunked. 62:43 But I got a little sore about the New York Times being like, 62:47 well, we had to finally write a story to debunk this. 62:50 And I'm like, were y'all not interested? 62:52 In the original missing, where was it? 62:53 In the original nine days. 62:55 So the New York Times reports last night 62:57 that indeed they have time stamped pictures 62:59 of him on security cam at his house. 63:02 And so he was not at this other place. 63:04 He says he's never been to Ohio. 63:06 The treatment center says I've never been there. 63:07 So like those people lied and they of course have like sort of scattered to the wind now 63:12 not not producing any of the receipts the Candace Owen style receipts we were supposed to see 63:17 But I do I 63:19 I'm kind of surprised Democrats aren't more annoyed at him for being off the trail for nine days 63:25 Yeah, I mean obviously if this were a Republican who is missing for at least nine days 63:29 This would be a big story of where is he and what is his health situation? 63:32 What is the thing on Trump's back of his hand? 63:34 You know Trump was gone for two days and they're like he's dead 63:37 Yeah, no apps. Oh, yeah, absolutely Mitch McConnell. How many pieces were written about Mitch McConnell, right? 63:43 I mean, it's getting governor 63:45 Yeah, yeah, so but he's back and so I mean it might have been a close call, but he's back sort of and 63:52 in the Tallarico case 63:55 He had the flu 63:55 I know somebody who recently had the flu a friend of ours and he said it was no joke 64:01 He was totally sort of like, you know sideline for for multiple days. It was awful 64:06 But it doesn't help when you're towards the tail end of a campaign and there's so much intensity and scrutiny 64:13 And people jokingly mentioned Michael Jordan, you know having the flu and still winning the game 64:17 You know, you can get out make an appearance every day counts. You got to get on the phone at least 64:24 Donors and stuff like that. I also like to point out the time Mike Tyson had a very high fever 64:30 And still won his title down and he was dealing with a case of an STD 64:35 So I just want to bring, that's a true story, by the way. 64:37 That's a true story. 64:38 So I mean, if you can do it, if Iron Mike can deal with that, come on, Tyler, retail. 64:42 Mike Tyson was on the trail with Trump the other day, by the way. 64:45 I saw that. 64:46 Yeah, crazy. 64:48 But yes, I am annoyed with people pretending that being out for nine days is totally normal. 64:54 I have not been out of commission and can't be seen publicly for nine days, even after 64:58 four childbirths. 64:59 I don't do a ton of work, but I can talk on the phone. 65:05 I can do a radio interview. 65:06 I can do the thing. 65:07 But it's also taking a page from the Biden 2020 playbook. 65:12 Can't hurt to be missing your head of Ken Paxton. 65:15 Let Ken Paxton do all the make all the mistakes 65:18 or whatever it is in the audio leaks, at least. 65:21 I mean, again, this is the sprint towards the finish 65:26 line here. 65:27 And it's also just regrettable that everyone is so deeply untrustworthy because you can't take 65:33 the campaign's word for it or the New York Times's word for what the campaign says or any of these 65:38 media who just go, okay, Roger that, you're sick, we got it. Because Nine Days does seem excessive 65:43 to me for a normal flu. And you can't take their word for it because of the Biden incident. And 65:49 then you got all these people actively lying to you on the other side, getting clicks 65:52 for making stuff up. 65:54 And I mean, that's part of the reason we do this show 65:56 is because sifting through all this is difficult. 65:59 I also wanna point out that as we've noted in the past, 66:03 Ken Paxton also doesn't, he ain't real energetic 66:05 on the trail, he doesn't do a lot of events. 66:08 Talarico up until this point 66:09 had been doing far more events than Paxton had been doing. 66:13 And the Wall Street Journal just broke last night 66:15 that a video of Ken Paxton in January of 2025 66:20 partying in Dubai with his girlfriend, I think he was still married at the time, 66:26 and a couple of fugitives, I'll read the, as President Trump weighed endorsing Ken 66:32 Paxton over incumbent Senator John Cornyn of Texas this spring, he was told 66:35 that damaging revelations were likely to surface about Paxton, according to 66:38 people familiar with the conversations. Trump was dismissive and said that 66:42 there would be more negative material about Democratic nominee James 66:44 Talarico. Trump plowed ahead and endorsed the scandal-plagued Texas 66:47 Attorney General, helping him win the Republican primary runoff in May. Months later, that decision 66:52 is looking like the biggest regret. Okay, so now there's this leaked video from 2025 of him hanging 66:58 out in Dubai partying on a balcony with two men who may have bankrolled him to some extent and are 67:04 indicted for 15 million in embezzlement and healthcare fraud. Okay. I mean, look, he did 67:13 America 250 in London. Like, there's no. Yes. This is who the man is. Yeah. Okay. Great. Things 67:20 are going great. Kelly Clarkson, what's happening? Oh my gosh. Well, Kelly Clarkson, who I like a lot. 67:30 So does my wife. Yeah. Sparked a big controversy this week. She tweeted 67:37 after she visited a little arts and craftsy type of boutique store in Brooklyn that someone was 67:44 rude to her there. So she writes, just drove all the way to Brooklyn to check out this store I thought 67:50 looked really rad and had a few things in mind to buy and literally was looked at as if I couldn't 67:54 afford it and was told he could find something comparable for me. Wow dude, you're an idiot and 67:58 just lost a huge sale. But y'all should go check out Art of Play in Brooklyn if you've enjoyed 68:02 being treated like Julia Roberts' character in Pretty Woman. For sure, check it out. Thumbs 68:07 down. So this was interesting to me because she doesn't usually tweet like personal stuff 68:15 that often. 68:15 Yeah. And the takeaway, this is the initial takeaway, which was some people saying, oh, 68:20 I can't believe that she acted this way because they didn't know it was her and other people. 68:25 And I think I sided with them at the time saying, no, her point is everybody should 68:30 be treated like Kelly Clarkson if they all knew Kelly Clarkson and not the other way around. 68:36 And she was not treated well, but everybody should be treated better, not just her. 68:41 But then the store itself replied. 68:44 So the store itself claimed that, hey, that item wasn't for sale. 68:50 She was bigfooting us. 68:52 And everybody's trying to be the underdog in this story, right? 68:55 She was bigfooting us. 68:56 And that she wanted this animatronic bird that's stuck on the wall and permanently installed there 69:01 And we use it for like plays or whatever they do their performance art and that it wasn't for sale 69:07 And therefore, you know, she was asking for something in an entitled way because she's a star 69:12 Kelly Clarkson comes back and it's like actually I got a picture of the price tag on it 69:17 And the price tag is $15,000 for this little like mechanical bird that speaks 69:23 Yeah, her name is Molly if y'all are interested and 69:27 And and indeed there is a price tag now 69:30 They may say that the thing is not for sale, but it is odd that it has a price tag on it sound for sale 69:35 So there was some sort of miscommunication now. I am a Kelly Clarkson partisan. I think she is 69:42 Maybe the best vocalist of my generation the winner of American Idol season one 69:49 Yeah, really did the thing on season one. She's great 69:53 Here's my thing. She's not a troublemaker, really. She doesn't do this kind of thing. 69:59 She kind of went out of her way. 70:01 This made me think it lends credence to the idea that they actually were very rude to 70:07 her and that she then wanted to make this statement. 70:10 You know, it would be very funny if the store came back and said, we apologize that we 70:16 didn't recognize it was Kelly Clarkson. If it was Justin Guarini on the other hand, 70:20 You know, I remember his name. Thank you. Now, I will say, yeah, the runner up 70:25 I think she got ticked off because someone actually was rude to her 70:29 They've tried to they've tried to be a little bit more conciliatory now the 70:32 Conciliatory the the shop to like get a truce here 70:37 Trump needs to have his version of a beer summit 70:41 With the shop owner and Molly sales lady and Molly in the middle. Yes. I bought it. It's now gold 70:48 I think she got genuinely ticked off by someone being actually rude to her. 70:53 She did this thing quickly. 70:56 And then of course, because she's so famous, the pylon is disproportionate to the actual 71:01 offense. 71:02 That's the problem with the internet. 71:03 On both sides. 71:04 You cannot control the pylon to this small business once you've put it out there in 71:10 the world. 71:10 So I would have thought to myself, even with a much smaller following, ugh, I didn't 71:16 appreciate this. But like, is it something was opening up all these people? 71:23 Because she has the power to really turn the screws on this store and make it feel uncomfortable. 71:31 Have you ever been in this position, Mary Catherine, where you went to a store and 71:34 they treated you rudely and you said, do you know who I am? You've never done that? 71:39 No, I've never tried do you know who I am really um, but 71:44 You know, I've been in disputes with stores before where I felt I was treated very rude 71:49 And in fact one of my long-held grudges was against a gyro rap store 71:55 Speaking of grease and the food that comes in there in Athens, Georgia where I felt like 72:01 Georgia, I felt 72:03 where I felt like I was treated very rudely and 72:06 And I couldn't figure out why the staff was so hostile to me there. 72:11 Another place that I've been treated rudely was Rent the Runway. 72:16 When Rent the Runway had a physical store in Georgetown, 72:20 every time I walked in there, I was like, 72:22 did I date y'all's exes? 72:24 What is the problem? 72:27 Well, this is what Kelly Clarkson cites in the Pretty Woman reference. 72:34 It's that wonderful scene, my favorite in that movie because, well, they're very snobby 72:40 to her. 72:40 Can I help you? 72:41 I'm sorry. 72:41 It's not for sale. 72:43 And then she leaves. 72:45 And then they go back to a different store with Richard Geer and this time with my old 72:49 friend Larry Miller, who has a great role in that and talking about it, you know, like, 72:55 you know, this is the kind of place where, you know, that's good at sucking up. 72:58 And he said, oh, yes, you come to the right store and the right city for that matter. 73:01 He said, who ordered the pizza? 73:03 Yeah, she gets to come back in the storage. You have a big mistake. 73:07 Yeah, a big mistake. And do you like her outfit, by the way, the shoulders? 73:11 I mean, you gotta love it. Shoot now. 73:13 You gotta love it. Anyway, I fear that Kelly Clarkson will lose some of her nice girl cred after this. 73:19 Yeah, because of this moment. 73:20 Because of this moment. But I, you know, I don't know, I think, again, I like her. 73:24 But I think celebrities are allowed to get ticked off sometimes too. 73:28 And I think she probably did that quickly. 73:30 All right. Well, we'll try to be forgiving when it happens to you. 73:35 Thanks. That wraps up this episode of Getting Hammered. You can still follow me on Twitter 73:40 at Victorina Mattis and on Sunstack at Victorina Mattis. I'm at MK Hammer on X at MK Hammer Time 73:46 on Instagram. You can follow the show at Get Hammered Pod. Also, look for our billboards somewhere 73:50 out there in America. 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