Rick Wilson, Amanda Litman & Ben Terris

The Lincoln Project's Rick Wilson discusses the price the GOP will pay if they fail to pass a debt ceiling bill. Run For Something's Amanda Litman tells us about how they're preparing to win local races in 2024. The Washington Post's Ben Terris talks about his new book, The Big Break: The Gamblers, Party Animals, and True Believers Trying to Win in Washington While America Loses Its Mind.

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