Former Deputy Secretary of State Kurt Campbell

Countries around the world are asking whether it is in their best interest to align more closely with China or the United States. Kurt Campbell helped guide US- China policy through multiple administrations and was Deputy Secretary of State under Joe Biden. He joins Christiane for his first TV interview since leaving government. Also on today’s show: Director Marcel Mettelsiefen discusses his new documentary on the Israel-Palestine conflict, “A State of Rage”; business owners Debbie Wei Mullin and Sarah LaFleur on the impact of the Trump tariffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices