Show full transcript 0:46 When Lewis and Clark reached the the Columbia River 0:50 They passed the Cascade Mountains all of the Native Americans West of the Cascades had artificially modified schools 0:57 Look at the title of the book is a Chinook sign of freedom if you didn't have an artificially modified school. You were a slave 1:02 Wow, the Chinook sign of free sign of freedom a study that skulls the famous chief 1:08 How do you say his name concomely? 1:10 and he was he was he met with Lewis and Clark during the 1:16 During their expedition and he was as famous as Sacajawea was a hundred years ago, but he's just 1:24 disappeared 1:24 appeared, he had an artificially elongated skull, a bunch of images to talk about it. 1:30 He attributed his intellect to his artificially elongated skull. 1:34 What? 1:34 Yeah. 1:35 That he, they believed- 1:36 How would you know though? 1:37 They don't. 1:37 They did it when you were a baby. 1:39 Exactly. 1:39 But that's what they all believed. 1:41 And there is actually something too, this is one of the things that's really interesting 1:44 that I've stumbled on is, you know, Neanderthal, if you look at the difference between 1:49 the Neanderthal brain case and a human brain case, there's a huge difference. 1:53 I have an image if you don't mind, JB, you can throw it up there if you don't care. 1:59 But it's all in the back. 2:00 It's like there's a thing called Chiari Malformation Type 1 where the base of your cerebellum falls 2:06 into your spinal cord and it causes migraines and all kinds of stuff. 2:10 And scientists now are saying that it probably came from us and Neanderthal. 2:15 Brain case, skull, not quite fitting. 2:18 And if you think about it, it actually makes a lot of sense, right? 2:20 I mean in the end of those schools way wide in the back and that's where all of your 2:24 Your motor skills your smelling your seeing your hearing. Yeah, they were more primitive 2:29 They're probably super athletes and that the real the weird question is like 2:33 Were they smart and how smart were they like their frontal lobe is not as big as ours correct? 2:41 Correct, and that's where all the thought processing and decision-making comes from 2:45 So they probably had insane athletic ability. Oh, yeah, absolutely and motor skills and visual ability the visual ability is important 2:53 Because look at the size of their eye sockets 2:56 Now imagine if you wanted the best of both worlds, so you were you were breeding these two species together 3:02 Look at the jaw on that motherfucker. Imagine trying to knock that guy out. Good luck. Forget about it 3:07 Although they had chests like barrels to right like they all look like you do naturally 3:12 They don't have to lift they just they just that way 3:15 Oh, they probably look a lot more impressive than me. Well, well the guy on the left. He looked he looked like me naturally 3:21 Do you remember that one? I think it's just nonsense 3:25 But there's this one guy who proposed the idea of Neanderthals being like gorilla looking like super predators 3:33 Mm-hmm, and he thought that the eyes were bigger so they could see at night and he had like this crazy 3:38 It was very eating a song. Yes, right right right very sensationalist nonsense and a genetic evidence is what you know 3:45 Yeah, that guy. Yeah, it's fucking dope though 3:48 Seeing the dark, you know, like primate 3:52 Lives in the woods and was like infinitely stronger than us. Yeah, just rip our arms right like gorilla strong 3:57 And but but not smart enough that you could like hey, man, can you please? 4:03 Oddly enough has a skull that has a larger capacity than us 4:06 And so then we have to think okay, is it just motor skills like do we what do we know about the brains of dolphins? 4:14 Well, we know that they're their brain capacity. It's quite a bit larger like there 4:18 I think their core sir their cerebral cortex. I think it's like 40% larger than a person's yeah 4:24 Yeah, something like crazy like that 4:25 So what is that like what's going on with them? 4:29 Like how are they so much more intelligent than us, but they just can't manipulate their environment 4:34 So we ignore it well that could be it also could be a degree of chemistry that they can't you know 4:39 I mean you can't do fire and underwater really so you're kind of stuck with your technological stuff 4:43 There's no manipulation right so all of their intellect must go into other areas and hunting and but then you find out 4:51 How horrible they are to each other? 4:53 Yeah, I mean like the infanticide 4:57 You know like dolphins female dolphins are very promiscuous and the reason why they're promiscuous is because if 5:04 If the male doesn't know if the cubs are his or not, if he thinks they might be his, he's 5:09 not going to kill the cubs. 5:11 But if a female has cubs, the male will kill the cubs so that the female will breed again. 5:17 It's like, hey, I thought you guys were like the super peaceful fucking smart ones. 5:22 So I was like, so I was like kind of like us. 5:24 Well, I mean, I don't know a lot of guys who are killing babies so that the women 5:28 will breed. 5:28 Oh, but it gets close. 5:30 Shimpansies do it. 5:31 Do they do that? 5:32 Do they do that kind of stuff? 5:33 They'll bears do that. Yeah, it's it's bears do two things. They think they think one they eat cubs 5:38 Deforce the female into breeding again, but two they think they just do it for food 5:45 Dark that's yeah, that's arachnid levels of dark right animalism is dark always and bears are all cannibals 5:52 And this is the thing about people in the amper for more 5:55 Amper for mortification. Is that the word? How do you say answer anthropomorphication? I always I want I want to say pro 6:02 but it's Poe, right? 6:05 Anthropomorph? 6:06 Anthropomorph, yeah. 6:07 Yeah. 6:07 I think you're right. 6:09 Whatever it is. 6:10 People humanizing animals. 6:12 The weirdest one, I think, is bears. 6:15 And like, you can train bears. 6:17 There's bears at the circus. 6:18 You, like, they're an interesting animal. 6:21 But in the wild, they are some of the fucking most brutal and ruthless creatures. 6:26 It's basically almost like a giant wild dog, you know? 6:31 And they tear things apart and they eat things while they're still alive 6:35 They don't care. They don't care. They're fucking horrible. They're horrible to each other 6:40 They go into dens and pull out cubs and eat them. I 6:44 Yeah, just different a different set of morality, I guess you could say or lack thereof 6:50 But yeah, I'm glad I'm not a bear because I've probably been eaten as a cub or you would be hit by a car or it'd been hit by a car 6:57 We're caught in a trap and trained to be a dancing ballerina bear or some shit stand 7:02 in a bowl. 7:02 The, um, the, the ancient humans though to me are like, I feel like this is a, this 7:09 is a, an emerging topic, even though we've known about Neanderthals for so long now 7:13 that they know about Denisovans, now that they know about homo, Florian, how do you 7:18 say that? 7:19 Floriancises? 7:19 Yeah. 7:20 That one? 7:21 Pronunciation island. 7:21 Island of Flores, man. 7:22 The, the hobbit people. 7:23 Now they know, okay, we've got two very distinct human beings that lived with humans that aren't homo sapiens and 7:31 The Denisovans one is fucking super weird. They're big. They're big. 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See sportsbook.draftkings.com 10:05 Then the bigger heads, like, very almost like Neanderthal, like, there's some of the stuff 10:11 that I got to talk about here is like polydactyly, multiple fingers and more than five fingers 10:18 and toes on each other. 10:19 That's in the Bible. 10:20 They talk about the giant. 10:21 Okay. 10:22 Polydactyly. 10:23 If there's a gene, could you pull up the one that says polydactyly paper, please? 10:29 Thank you. 10:29 It's they've been studying this and there's a gene that Neanderthal and Denisovans had that a variant of that increases 10:37 polydactylic increases 10:40 cranial deformations it increases a bunch of stuff 10:44 This is I mean day in this is and this is all newer stuff. You see that's 2023 10:51 And there's this is huge I saw your video on this where you talked about there's one family in Brazil that has 10:59 Like most of their family members have six fingers and six toes and yeah, they say it helps them of course 11:04 Of course, I can grab the ball better. I can play an extra string, right? 11:09 Imagine guitar extra finger. That's nuts. I mean you could even be an ugly dude and seduce a woman when you got an extra finger 11:15 Good luck 11:17 Chicks don't want to have kids with a guy who has fucking six fingers. I'm some freak kid 11:21 But the in South America. They actually honored that stuff. Of course 11:26 They honored they honored genetic deformations 11:28 I honestly believe that they were actively breeding different bloodlines together in South America that baby 11:37 It's got five fingers and a thumb that's crazy 11:42 I mean the thing is they look absolutely normal in every other way 11:47 Yeah, except the fact that they have five fingers instead of four like and it would take you a few seconds 11:51 It's almost like you're living in the matrix and this is like an AI glitch 11:55 You know like AI glitches they would have people that have like additional appendages like a weird elbow growing off your elbow 12:01 I think it was just glitched the clat walks. Yeah. Oh, yeah 12:04 Like you would take you a while before you really imagine if you were high and you went over this lady's house 12:10 And you saw her playing piano and you're like wait a minute. Why is there so many noises? 12:18 How do you have so many fingers? Oh, wait a minute you have extra fingers like this dude had a 12:25 Gloves right there. He must be a motherfucker of a goalie. Oh, of course, right? It's the greatest hand skill for goalies 12:35 More space you cover it up 12:38 But I think definitely better if you could teach him how to punch 12:40 You have a whole nother finger that like the width of the hands would be greater the weight of the hands would be greater 12:46 Yeah, the guitar players say it's not the extra finger as much as it is the extra stretch the extra reach that lets them 12:51 Mm-hmm a couple extra oh that makes sense that makes sense especially like long fingers all the guitars still made for a five-fingered player 12:59 Right, right. So you're yeah, it's not well you can figure out how to do it 13:02 Oh, yeah, look what Hendrick just got in the same thing. Yeah, I played it left-handed. I guess Stevie Ray Vaughan local hero, right? 13:09 Right. Yeah, turn that thing and stand you've seen the live at L. McComber one where he he takes his 13:15 $15,000 Stratocaster stands on the horns, and he's rocking the neck back and forth 13:22 Pops the string just fuck you pick back. Don't even care just go. Wow. It's not a toy. It's not an instrument 13:27 It's a damn toy. It's a tool. It's a yeah. Yeah, anyway, I got gush about that guy for a bit 13:33 I like Stevie. He's pretty good. We have posters or photos of him from when he was on stage at the club 13:38 Way before we owned it. Oh really? Yeah. Yeah, he was on that stage in like the 80s 13:44 No, I think I think the pictures from 83. Yeah, I popped into Anton's a couple of times to just just to smell the air 13:52 Anton's is dope. That's a great place. I've seen Gary before Gary Clark jr. Performed there a few times. It's fucking sick 13:58 Yeah, I haven't got to watch a show there every time I'm in town. It was up to no good 14:03 But I'm not to catch a show there one of these nights. Yeah, we did it and everybody got COVID 14:09 The whole crew everyone backstage got COVID 14:11 It's one of their guys. Yeah, one of their guys had COVID after the show 14:14 It was like during the whole during the full lockdown and they had a concert 14:17 I was like, I can't believe we're at a concert and then we went backstage 14:20 We're hanging out in the green room and then everybody got COVID I'm not a fan. Yeah, except me. I didn't get 14:27 That's because you didn't get it. You were you know, it's funny 14:30 It's what I was something that I wanted to talk about on this anyway 14:33 So what may as well get into it now is the COVID thing 14:35 You know, they weaponized scientific literacy when they said trust the science on the on the jab 14:40 That's I there's a lot of things worth talking about but the whole war on science like I keep call 14:46 I get called a science denier a lot. Fuck that. I'm a science gatekeeper 14:49 you don't get to call it science if it ain't science. You stop at the door. 14:53 Science is a method. It's a way we get somewhere. It's not the end result. Carl Sagan said science 14:59 is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the 15:02 universe. The average time for a peer review for a test on a vaccine is about 10 years. 15:09 You crank it out in a year and a half. You haven't followed the proper fucking steps. 15:13 You haven't done science. I'm not a science denier. I'm not. I just do it right and 15:18 come back. Right it's not a coincidence there was so much money involved. We're 15:23 not stupid. No. We know why it wasn't done because there was no other methods to 15:27 treat this disease. That's ridiculous. It's not true. Well that's why they got 15:31 so mad at me. But that's where I was gonna go with it. Your doctor they 15:35 would say through your personal physicians under the bus and I don't 15:38 know anything about that except for that I can't extrapolate I can guess 15:42 and say that the guy that your personal physicians probably wants to 15:45 keep that job probably doesn't want to see you croak from COVID. 15:49 And I mean, I mean, I could be wrong, but, you know, it seemed really just 15:53 ridiculous that it was like, oh, there's just pushing a bunch of pseudoscience 15:55 bullshit. 15:56 It's like, um, that you could look at it that way. 15:59 And I, you know, everyone was scared and it's not their fault that they, you 16:04 know, they were presented with this pandemic that caused people a lot of 16:07 anxiety, but what was shocking to me was how few people were willing to 16:12 say, what did that guy do? 16:14 Instead of saying, oh my god, you're anti-science, 16:18 you're promoting vaccine hesitancy, 16:19 you didn't get vaccinated and you survived COVID 16:21 and you're telling everybody how you did it, 16:23 this is anti-science, like, but it happened. 16:26 And so they told you you were using a horse dewormer. 16:28 Right. 16:29 Well, that was completely insane. 16:30 That's just proof of propaganda. 16:33 But even without that proof of propaganda, 16:35 you also have this thing. 16:37 Like, if we are all trying to get through something 16:39 and you see someone who is a very public person. 16:42 I'm online all the time. 16:44 I have millions of subscribers, right? 16:46 So I'm very scrutinized. 16:48 And everyone knows that I work out all the time. 16:51 Everyone knows I take vitamins. 16:52 I talk about it all the time. 16:54 Cold plunges and fucking hyperbaric chambers 16:56 and all this different shit. 16:58 Why wouldn't they say, 17:00 oh, apparently if you're really healthy 17:03 and you do these things 17:05 and for maybe whatever reason you can't get vaccinated, 17:08 this works too. There was never even a consideration, right? Even, even let's assume the vaccine 17:14 worked, which it didn't, like, which, which assumed that it prevented infection, which 17:18 it didn't, prevented transmission, which it didn't, and didn't have any side effects, 17:23 which is certainly not true. So let's just, let's pretend it did. Even then, you have 17:28 people that are allergic to some of the ingredients in the vaccine, right? Aaron 17:32 Aaron Rodgers was one of them. 17:34 And so if you tell those people, hey, I understand that this medicine that works you can't take, 17:40 but here is a guy who did something different and was fine. 17:45 This is okay too. 17:46 Instead they shut all that down, demonetized people, shows channels down of you. 17:50 It was bad. 17:52 It was interesting. 17:52 It was interesting. 17:55 It's funny watching it from hindsight because we can look at it now and see where everything's 18:01 Settled afterwards to a degree, but even still like like for example the Fauci hearings 18:08 Nobody who was a big supporter of his that I know personally knew about that until I told him about it 18:12 It was like it just didn't show up in their fucking radar. They don't want to know about it 18:16 Of course name nobody wants to think that they were completely wrong about that 18:21 And that was one of the things they did whip everybody up into a fury 18:24 Yeah, look when you were wrong about something you got to say well, I was wrong about that for sure 18:30 That's really honestly like part and parcel not just to being an honest person, but like especially if you're in science 18:36 Yes, you know like your boy your favorites 18:40 Archaeologist who's not a scientist at Flint Dibble guy 18:43 He recently did a thing where he was making fun of me and he's like pulls up this thing talking about Easter Island and how 18:49 Easter Island's earliest habitable layer has food stuffs from South America and Asia 18:54 So like though as far back as people were hitting Easter Island that were aware of they were hitting both of these continents 18:59 So a thousand years ago. So I've mentioned this Flint clip said he's like, this is bullshit. This Dan's confidently wrong 19:06 He's fully shit five minutes later in this live stream. He catches that that is accurate 19:10 Well, actually there is evidence of contact between the two, but he never mentions that it was on Easter out 19:16 he 19:17 Saves his face rather than any I mean, that's not like a big surprise thing. 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Well, the whole thing is yeah, this is what it's really 21:30 Atlantis will they say you assume that Atlanteans were white ergo 21:34 It's only the brown people buildings that you ask questions about you're not asking questions about the Coliseum 21:39 It's like okay 21:40 Well the Coliseum has written records so I know why the Coliseum was built when it was built the Parthenon same thing 21:44 But you know what I don't know about that was built by white people supposedly Balbeck. Balbeck was supposedly built by Romans 21:51 We're all doing it there, too. It has nothing to do with color. It has everything to do with written records 21:55 They ignore this one of my favorite things to throw at him with that 21:58 Balbeck has no written records of the not of the Trilithons of the big stuff exactly and how do you not write that down? 22:06 The Romans wrote everything down they had scribes their job was to document everything. They were very concentrated on history 22:13 Yeah, yeah, we went off about this when me and Jimmy Corsetti were here. Yes, but talking about like the Roman foot 22:20 Well if Jimmy's right Atlantis was in sub-Saharan Africa. Mm-hmm. It's Africans 22:25 Well, I think honestly that I think Atlantis is kind of a catch-all term for a lost civilization that was globe spanning 22:33 Yeah, and like they would call us 10,000 years from now 22:36 They would just lump us in with a damn French and call us the electronic civilization and with the exception of GSP 22:41 GSP, I don't want to be associated with a damn French. 22:46 No. 22:47 I'm kidding. 22:47 I'm kidding. 22:47 There's a lot of dope French people. 22:49 I love Montreal. 22:50 I love it up there. 22:51 Speaking of, GSP is going to be at that event. 22:54 Oh, is he? 22:54 Yes, Steve. 22:55 He's the best. 22:55 I love that he's doing a podcast. 22:57 He's a very fascinated guy. 22:58 He's fascinated and curious about so many things and he's kind and he's open-minded 23:03 and he's really intelligent. 23:04 He is so odd. 23:07 Like when people meet him and I go, do you know who that is? 23:10 And they go, no, she's like a really nice guy like that is one of the greatest cage fighters that ever lived 23:15 So like no way I go one of the all-time greats if not the all-time great 23:20 I think John Jones all-time great 23:21 But I think he's in the conversation like George is in the conversation of one of the greatest that's ever done it 23:27 And meanwhile he's the sweetest nicest guy dude when I made a comment once to him on Instagram where he was like doing these leg 23:33 Workouts and I was like my legs will never look like that because I'm sitting on a computer all day smoking weed and reading 23:39 And he goes I trade my legs for your brain any day, and I'm just like fuck your legs made you millions 23:46 What the hell you talking about boy? 23:48 Well, everybody wants what they don't have you know 23:51 He's gonna have me on his pod here on the 17th to oh cool. He's gonna be here this 16th or 18th or that thing 23:57 Yeah, tell everybody this thing you doing 24:00 Here at the quest for ancient civilizations conference October 16th or 18th at the ACL live here in Austin, Texas 24:06 Be me Randall Carlson 24:10 and bass forge, you just had him on here, bass 4J, 24:13 and a few other guys. 24:15 Yeah, this thing, there's got a bunch of, 24:17 see the AI generated homage dude in the middle there? 24:20 Look at all this pseudo science on one picture, I love it. 24:24 Oh man, yeah, we're, we're, there's. 24:26 It's just like Duncan. 24:27 It's gonna be, oh yeah. 24:28 That doesn't look like Duncan at all, 24:29 that's like Duncan on TRT. 24:31 But Curt and Duncan are gonna be there, 24:33 the mystery boys, those guys will be, 24:34 those guys are always there. 24:35 You hear Randall Carlson has a rap song out now? 24:37 Yes, yes, I'm not Randall. I'm sorry, Billy no or Randall. I didn't know what he released 24:43 I got scrambled rambler Randall is a rap song when we were in Sedona, Arizona 24:49 We were sharing an Airbnb and he was he wrote it in like the late 80s. He was spitting bars at me over breakfast 24:54 I was just going God fucking damn. This was not on my bingo card. Oh 24:58 Randall Carlson rapping at me for breakfast Carlson is a hip-hop head 25:02 from my late 80s 25:07 I should look it up or not 25:11 Randall Carlson hip-hop, please put that into perplexity ask our AI sponsor perplexity what Randall Carlson's history in hip-hop is 25:20 That would be dope watching fucking Santa Claus spitting bars like that. I'm telling you man 25:24 I was it was I was still drinking coffee and nursing my morning bowl, and I was like well, holy shit. Yeah, the real world 25:32 Yeah, crazy, but yeah, that's gonna be a fun thing GSP is gonna be there now 25:36 They he just got a officially hundred percent confirmed about an hour ago. That's fantastic, but yeah, that's gonna be a lot of fun 25:43 But I would be talking tickets available for that you can get online. Yeah tickets are available 25:48 You could get them online the quest for ancient civilization. Thanks. I'm quest for ancient civilizations if you go to my YouTube 25:55 There'll be stuff on there 25:57 Yeah, if you look for Quest for Age of Civilizations, you'll have no trouble finding it. 26:00 So this conference, available online, people can get tickets, looks like a dope lineup, 26:05 and it's all the stuff that I love to talk about, so. 26:08 Yeah, I jokingly called it the rogue and trinity when we got GSP, we've got the pyramids, 26:13 we've got the comedy, we've got the ass whooping, we get all three. 26:17 So these people, let's go back to this Smithsonian thing, these people with their altered 26:23 heads. 26:23 Is it your suspicion that they were altering their heads to try to appear like people that were already here? 26:31 Like the Peruvian skulls and no before I thought oh boy. Sorry. No good 26:35 Oh before I thought that but because like there's skulls in China that were originally mistaken for chrome magnet and neanderthal and stuff like old 26:42 And now they say they're artificially modified by people 26:44 But no, I think could you pull up the image for chiari malformation? 26:49 It's the what's got two heads with one circle like two cat scans 26:52 Well, I was talking about the brain fallen down into the thing 26:55 Mm-hmm. They believe that this is a problem from Neanderthal and or Denisov and mingling with us right school too small brain too big 27:03 So now if you have this consistent problem, you've got it always got pressure on the brain 27:08 See how it's pops down there. You've always got this pressure on the brain now. Imagine if you 27:14 You might drill holes in your head like you've seen all the truncation that's happened down there 27:18 There's an image that yeah that then or you might elongate the back of the skull every 27:24 generation so that your kids don't have the same fucking headaches grandpa did 27:30 and so it becomes a thing that and this is why if you check out South America 27:34 parochis is insane this way they have so many things the polydactyly the 27:39 elongated skulls the trefination there's a thing could you pull up the 27:43 incabone one where your skulls melt the plates in the skull melt in the 27:47 back if there is stress or a lack of equilibrium you'll end up what they call 27:52 a fermion bones ones in the back are warming bones the ones in the back are 27:56 so pronounced there's a called Inca bones because they happen mostly in Inca 28:01 territory you also see an Easter Island the Pacific Northwest and in Asia but 28:07 this part of the skull right there there's one that's got a Neanderthal 28:11 that shows this to the ender thals have this same issue there's another 28:15 one and there's an island. Oh, Jesus. But yeah, the, sorry, there's, yeah, there's one 28:23 that's... 28:23 I'm checking my own head right now. 28:24 There's one with white text at the bottom, Jamie. Sorry. But yeah, Neanderthal had it. 28:29 And it's a, again, it's from a lack of equilibrium. They say it's from the brain and the skull, 28:34 not quite fitting. 28:35 That makes sense. 28:36 I think in South America, I think that they were mingling different bloodlines. 28:40 The same as you can look at a guy that plays Reacher and tell that he's probably 28:44 We got more Neanderthal than I do and they would mingle these bloodlines and then they would get 28:49 All kinds of different yeah, there's a Neanderthal one 28:52 They would get all kinds of different genetic variations 28:56 And I think some of these were bad, but some of them were honored like you've seen the Jaguar people of the Olmec 29:03 Okay, you ever seen could you pull up the dental dysplasia one the kid with the two fangs? 29:08 There's there's dental things. It'll make you grow fangs as a child and also quite often will give you a hair lip 29:16 Jaguar? Whoa. And so, like, if you look, yeah. And so, like, what do you think that's from? 29:25 Again, this is for, is that some ancient shit where people used to have teeth like that? 29:29 It's DNA. Again, where we cross mingle DNA, there should be one right there about the 29:36 mouths with the paper. Sorry, I'll have to pull up. Right, but those teeth, that's 29:40 It's not in any other human primate that we've ever found. 29:44 No, it happens in ours, but when they... 29:46 So it's just a malformation. 29:47 A malformation. 29:48 And we have a lot of that, like the, some people just keep growing teeth, right? 29:52 Right. 29:53 Or you get different bones in the head, different shapes of the skull. 29:58 I've seen the skulls, ancient skulls with rows of teeth. 30:01 Yeah. 30:02 Yeah. 30:03 Some of those, like, they don't know for sure how many of those are legit, but 30:07 But there's definitely no question that these things happen. 30:12 Again, the real problem with this is it becomes a cover-up, like a little bit ago I mentioned 30:17 that they were all these elongated skulls in the Pacific Northwest. 30:21 Mount Coffin in Longview, Washington, when Colonel Charles Wilkes, or Lieutenant Charles 30:27 Wilkes, whose father happened to be a member of the Skoll and Bone Society in England, 30:32 when he got to Longview, Washington, he saw Mount Coffin as a place where they 30:36 They had these above ground burials and there were 3,000 of them. 30:39 All of them supposedly would have had elongated skulls because again, if you don't have an 30:43 elongated skull in that neck of the woods, you weren't a freeborn person and this was, 30:47 you had to be noble to be buried there. 30:49 It's 3,000 elongated skulls. 30:51 When he left, this campfire actually burnt the place down. 30:54 All those skulls disappeared. 30:56 That image that Jimmy skipped past Littleby goes, he said, dude, sitting on pile of 31:00 bones. 31:01 This is an Indian burial ground that they were just looting the things and selling 31:05 them left and right where do you think those things are in people's house people hands well I've never 31:10 heard of a story of a person having an elongated skull in their private collection I have a couple 31:14 of people that have commented on my videos saying like I saw one at so-and-so's house in 1978 but 31:19 but here but I'll give you a smoking gun right if you're like some Rockefeller type guy you 31:25 got a mansion in Rhode Island it's funny you brought up Rockefeller in the 30s when Tello 31:30 down in Paracas he starts putting out hey we've got these elongated skulls down there and 31:34 I need money. He was getting $300 a year to take care of them. Rockefeller gets wind 31:39 and history says flat out, he took an unexpected trip to Peru. He dropped three grand and walked 31:45 back with four bundles. Now according to three grand, yeah, and four, four grave bundles. 31:52 That's 10 times what Tello was getting a year, 10 times what the guy was getting a year 31:56 to take care of all of them. He coughs up four out of like 300 bundles. Now those 31:59 four bundles were supposedly displayed at the Met, supposedly displayed at the National 32:03 History Museum in New York. No photos exist, no drawings exist. They may have been repatriated, 32:09 they may not have been repatriated, depends on who you ask. The AI will run you in a damn circle 32:13 if you're going with it. At the end of the day, we don't know what they look like, but I can tell 32:19 you this much. There's about 300 of those bundles to pick from. Do you think Rockefeller, 32:23 if one of them had great big old devil horns and a third eye, do you think Rockefeller 32:26 left it or took it with him? Did fucking no brain or shit, right? So the best of the best 32:32 always gone. And assume when Rockefeller found out that he couldn't go get the ones in the 32:37 Pacific Northwest anymore, but there was some somewhere else he ran there. And right now 32:40 you sent me the video just a little bit ago, but this is more, they're, these schools 32:45 are disappearing off the shelves in the museums right now. Yeah. Right. As we speak, 32:49 this cover-up, there's, this cover-up, I'm sure you've seen the map. 100 years ago, 32:55 they drew a map of artificial cranial deformation. And then like 10 years ago, they made 33:00 another one, both of these on peer-reviewed papers, and the older map has more information. 33:05 There's more areas. 33:06 They've erased the island of Nui, had it. 33:10 Ancient Hawaiian people had about 8.9% of them that they dig up had elongated skulls. 33:15 Nobody fucking talks about that. 33:16 Nobody knows about it. 33:17 If you want to go look at it, the answer's no. 33:19 When you say ancient, like what year? 33:21 Not sure, but when they dig them up and they start doing it at prehistoric, they 33:25 call it, but prehistoric in Hawaii, you know, maybe a thousand years ago. 33:29 Wow. So this is all over the world people are doing that. Well, yeah, and then what you're 33:33 saying about the brain size and the base of the brain completely makes sense. Thank you. I mean to 33:40 me it seems like the most smoke and it not only does it smoke and gun it's like it coincides 33:44 with human evolution because what would be, imagine you've got a Neanderthal and a Homo 33:50 sapiens and they're talking to each other trying to figure out a problem and they both 33:53 walk away from that with like mad respect for the other person's ability to see what 33:57 they don't. Wouldn't they want to mingle that? So like, Jamie, could you pull up a picture 34:05 that I got of the, that family tree? It's just, it's like an empty blank white family 34:11 tree. And then right after it's the, like imagine if you were trying to make a symbol 34:14 to tell everybody, Hey, this is where we mingle bloodlines. So like, this is a standard 34:18 kind of thing, right? And could you pull up that condolabra next? It should be 34:22 like, um, sorry, uh, if that same symbol basically with the condolabra of the Andes, you've seen 34:33 that, right? The condolabra of the Andes is visible 12 miles out to sea. Okay. Um, if you think 34:43 we're trying to draw the draw, we're trying to draw the mingling of blood lines. And here's 34:48 a symbol of where we're doing it. Fucking doesn't I mean, does that kind of look uncanny? And then 34:53 Can you pull up that paracus textile, Jamie? 34:56 This one even more. 34:57 This is when they buried people in paracus. 35:00 This was, they'd put them in these textiles 35:02 and this one textile, look at that back there. 35:05 Look at what that, try to translate that 35:07 and keep in mind what I was just telling you. 35:09 Okay, it looks like a monkey on either side 35:13 and then a person in the middle. 35:15 And it looks like there's some sort of a transference 35:17 of something through the top of their heads. 35:20 Oh, that's upside down. 35:21 Yeah, that's upside down. Well, there's it first of all it looks like they did DMT. Well, you clearly 35:28 There's hours of Iowasca right there buddy 100% they were on DMT 35:32 But that does look like two monkeys, right? It looks like they have tails. Yeah, isn't it? Yeah, it does 35:38 And then the one in the middle looks like the bad motherfucker. That's the boss. That's pregnant. I've met that guy before 35:45 Yeah 35:46 I met that guy over there 35:49 But you see that notice in the middle of the thing he's got something in his tummy 35:53 I mean if you think about the same line of reasoning we're mixing different 35:59 blood lines to make something more that image kind of seems to also they 36:04 always have three fingers and three toes and then you get to the tridactyl 36:08 mummies and I do look at the monkeys I don't know what to think about the 36:13 tridactyl mummies neither do I it's honestly like I'm of the opinion now 36:18 that I think that the genetic stuff they were doing in South America down in Peru 36:23 created a lot of artificial, created a lot of natural weird problems and some of 36:28 them would be like misshapen skulls and then I think they would wrap the heads 36:33 to artificially modify them and I think that's why down there they get so 36:37 crazy looking is because it's a combination of genetics and of 36:41 artificially playing with it. Okay. The rest of the world they don't get that. 36:45 So do you think maybe they had like a bulbous roundish head but extra large because there's those skulls as well 36:51 It seemed to be not deformed, but they do have a larger brain capacity 36:55 Yeah, though the ones that are bulbous in the back those are that's the most common type of cranial deformation that you see 37:02 It's what concomely skull the chiefs that was showing you 37:07 It's can you pull that one up please Jamie so bulbous in the back bulbous 37:11 Yeah, that's huge. Yeah, and that again that would keep it and now notice even back a hundred years ago that picture that he was just 37:18 showing that 37:19 The other photograph why isn't his skull elongated? 37:23 Well, it's hard to tell because he's looking straight on but it could be all of the all of the artistic work of him is 37:30 Lacking that for some reason right, but couldn't you see that if some well that one looks pretty elongated 37:36 Just go back to that. That's crazy. That was that you meet in those dudes. You'd be like, yo, what are you? 37:43 Check and look they're doing it to the baby right there. Oh the poor kid 37:48 Imagine being a baby you fucking strapped into that thing. Oh man, Dave's in this book here 37:53 It quotes from a book called a story that used to be required reading up where I live and 37:58 There's a guy that witnessed them one of these kids being their head binding 38:02 It said that their eyes bulged out of their skull like a mouse caught in a trap 38:06 So when you think about that, honest, but if your kid was going to have migraines in 38:12 cessantly for the rest of their life. 38:14 It's football season and Uber Eats is delivering deals every game day. 38:18 This week, buy a four-piece signature chicken from Popeyes and get another one free on Uber 38:25 Eats. 38:26 When your watch party gets hungry, order in and keep everyone's attention where it 38:30 matters on the game. 38:32 Order a four-piece signature chicken from Popeyes and get another one free. 38:35 No matter who scores big tonight, you'll score great deals on Uber Eats all season long 38:41 because it's not football without food. 38:44 Popeyes offer valid through November 1st, add eligible menu items to order prior to 38:50 check out, taxes, fees and terms apply, product availability varies by region, exclusions 38:56 may apply, see app for details. 38:59 The football season is heating up and every week feels bigger with DraftKings Sportsbook, 39:04 the number one sports book for live betting plus get extra protection with early exit opt-in and if 39:11 your player leaves the game with an eligible injury in the first half your bet is protected no matter 39:18 which game you're watching you're always connected and in on the action with one app new draft kings 39:23 customers sign up with code Rogan spend five bucks to get a hundred and fifty dollars in total 39:29 bonuses within 14 days. That's code Rogan. In partnership with DraftKings, the crown is yours. 39:59 You might just do that anyway. 40:00 Yeah, I guess they had to do it if you're right. 40:02 If you're right about the base of the brain, which kind of tracks. 40:06 But to me, the capacity of the skulls being so much larger 40:12 and some of the Peruvian skulls is weird. 40:15 It is. It's a funny one, too, because these guys will argue back and forth. 40:18 You'll get a lot of skeptics that say there is no larger capacity. 40:22 But the guys that measure it claim that there is, 40:25 and the other guys that measure it claim it's... 40:27 Well, that one that we always show all the time, Jimmy, 40:29 that one that I'm really fascinated by, that one image, 40:32 it's so big. 40:33 It's so big, it's so crazy. 40:35 You're looking at it and you're like, what is that? 40:37 Imagine meeting that guy. 40:39 You would be freaked out. 40:40 Like that would not look at all like a person. 40:43 You would think, oh my God, 40:44 this guy's from another planet. 40:45 Yeah, this guy. 40:46 And then there's the sagittal suture thing 40:49 that some of them don't have, 40:51 the sagittal suture that we have. 40:53 Yeah, that's, yeah, again, these paper, 40:56 Look at that head man. Also look at the size of the eye sockets. Yeah, it's the eye sockets are fucking huge 41:05 That person must have insane eyeballs 41:08 Imagine what their eyes would look like when they're looking at you. I mean how much bigger is that than a human's eye socket? 41:14 It's so much bigger 41:16 That was to bid a wild-looking dude bring that guy over your house for a party 41:21 Your friends will be like yo 41:23 Who's the guy who keeps reading everybody's mind? 41:25 No, no shit. 41:26 No, I'm not playing. 41:27 If we're playing trivia, he's on my team. 41:29 That guy's the freakiest one, man, the one on the left. 41:32 But what you're saying might be accurate, right, that that might have been a rounded 41:36 thing that was manipulated to be a flattened thing. 41:40 Yeah. 41:40 I think that it was partially natural. 41:43 Like even the sagittal suture, this is one of the things they find with Denisovan 41:49 and Neanderthal DNA. 41:51 That one on the right. 41:51 Is that real? 41:52 Yeah, is that AI is that horseshit? That's fucking real 41:57 Come on man. What are we looking at and someone stole that someone's got that in your fucking 42:04 Rhode Island mansion, of course, you know those 42:06 Bronze age or gilded age mansions that they haven't wrote very weird man 42:12 I got into a YouTube rabbit hole the other day of bronze or gilded age mansions 42:17 Oh boy in Newport, Rhode Island. We're all these like 42:20 fucking super rich creepy people set up their castles it's nuts man I guarantee 42:26 if you get in the room there's a fucking glass box and inside of it there's one 42:30 of these skulls it looks like it's from another planet but yeah and and it's so 42:35 it's weird to me that they're hiding all this it's that's somebody's hiding 42:39 all that well it's it's maybe not just somebody but there's definitely money 42:46 behind it because it happens like so fast and it happened like the article I'll I will link 42:52 an article in a video and it'll be dead in two weeks and I'll have to go fucking fight 42:55 like I've got three different ways to find this one thing right now and I've downloaded 42:59 it because it's just keeps disappearing and it's the what talks about Rockefeller buying 43:03 the skulls and it's just someone scrubbing the internet of the rock Rockefeller scub 43:09 skulls it still shows up but I think it's because someone has them and they were 43:12 Shut the fuck up. 43:14 I'm 100% those school. 43:16 History says that he either repatriated them 43:18 or he left them in the museum and it's like, 43:20 so then I ask, you ask, well, what's the catalog numbers? 43:23 Oh, well, there are no catalog numbers for human remains. 43:25 Okay, fuck you, I know better than that. 43:27 And they all ultimate, what really gets me is this, 43:31 they gave me the same excuse for Papua New Guinea 43:33 as they do for China, as they do for Easter Island, 43:37 as they do for Hawaii, as they do for the Pacific 43:38 Northwest, as they do for Paracas. 43:40 Well, it's about, you know, it's about like protecting the indigenous people's beliefs 43:46 and they don't want you to have like their skulls because then that would be like you 43:50 have part of their souls. 43:51 It's like, okay, I can understand that some of them might think this way. 43:54 But we got Mennonites in Pennsylvania that don't believe that and they're sitting right 43:59 next door to their friends that do believe that. 44:02 How am I supposed to accept that the entire Pacific Rim fucking all falls into line? 44:06 We can't get them to do that same shit in Pennsylvania. 44:08 I don't buy it. 44:09 This is a European thing, this isn't an Islander thing, this isn't a Polynesian thing, it's 44:16 covering these things up. 44:17 These people are perfectly content to have their skulls displayed as far as we can tell, 44:21 but it's always some white dude going, oh, we gotta hide those fucking skulls because 44:26 we got a PZ at the end of the day. 44:31 Please put all your shit in the museum so that we can keep a good eye on it for you. 44:35 Can I see it? 44:35 Fuck you. 44:36 It's gone. 44:37 Fuck you. 44:38 Let's go up. Try to find this online. You'll find an image that says no image available that 44:44 has a title and that's it. There was one, last I looked, there was one copy that was in a library 44:51 in Malta. And you really think that's because someone's in possession of this stuff and they're 44:55 trying to squash it? I think that there's a narrative there that people don't want pushed. 44:59 I think that it might have something to do with, let's be honest, what I'm talking about 45:05 When you start talking about mingling different bloodlines for different traits, this does sound awfully eugenics. All right 45:10 This does sound like it's dipping your toes into this kind of 45:13 Politically incorrect stuff. But how is it eugenics that people just interbred? 45:18 I 45:18 If there was a I believe there was a program in paracas like 45:21 Can you pull up one of the pictures of the person presenting the when they would bring the jack? 45:27 There's there's when those Jaguar babies, right? 45:30 The Jaguar people in the Olmec society had the hair lip and the things like I was showing 45:35 There's more than one statue of them presenting them. There you go 45:40 Here's my baby. This baby's all fucking mutilated not like me today. Here you go. What that baby doesn't look mutilated 45:46 It's it's not a very good image, but yeah, it's is there any that one doesn't look that one looks normal 45:52 It just looks like a mother with a baby 45:53 Well, yeah, if you look at the top down the both of those they have hair lips and they're missing the teeth there 45:58 They are Jaguar babies like that one that last image 46:03 Yeah, that's a that's a trophy skull 46:07 With the only trophy skull known with the cleft lip 46:10 You know if you were born with a cleft lip even the Spanish recorded if you were born with a cleft lip 46:15 To their people they would put you in a temple as part of the workers 46:18 You were considered holy six fingers was considered holy 46:21 deformations were considered holy and 46:24 This trophy skull. What do you mean by that? 46:27 I mean that this is like a mummified skull with a whole drilled in it 46:31 I wish I could get a real image, 46:32 but this is the only one that exists. 46:34 And so somebody has that somewhere in a museum? 46:36 Yeah, or somewhere, yeah. 46:37 Somewhere. 46:39 But yeah, there's a bunch of these trophy skulls 46:42 that they kept down in South America. 46:44 They would wear skulls on their belt. 46:46 They didn't shrink them or nothing. 46:47 They just drill a hole right in the fucking thing 46:48 and hang it right on their belt. 46:50 Ooh. Yeah. 46:51 But that one was especially prized 46:53 because that was a noble. 46:55 You're walking around with a noble person's skull 46:57 hanging from your belt. 46:58 That's how they would wear them? 46:59 I'm a badass. 46:59 ass. 47:00 Wow. 47:01 Yeah. 47:01 That part of the world was never, so you think there's a potential that they were creating, 47:07 they were breeding people specifically. 47:10 Yeah. 47:11 I think that they would pick bloodlines and be like, you know what, you look more like 47:15 and you look more like and you need to have a baby together and then here's the baby. 47:20 We got a good one. 47:21 It's a jaguar. 47:22 So, what do you think the whole tridactyl thing is? 47:25 I think some of the tridactyl mummies look fake as fuck to me just to be clear. 47:29 the early, the tiny ones. 47:31 The ones that look like cake. 47:33 The ones that they do the cat scans of, you're like, wow. 47:37 You know, and then you find out that they're like, 47:39 at least 1,200 years old. 47:41 You're like, are you telling me 47:42 that 1,200 years ago someone created this? 47:45 I think DNA would be a good way 47:47 to get into that to begin with. 47:49 I know. 47:50 Yeah, I mean, it's just weird that this is all going on 47:53 and we don't have definitive answers 47:55 and there's not also like a mad rush 47:57 Among scientists to discover are these two trophies called yeah? 48:01 This one just has a drill hole in the forehead 48:04 That's how they did it man. They didn't fucking clown around with the skin on it and the hair 48:09 So this person is just walking around with someone's head 48:13 Wrapped around their waist description. I just read said they were most I mean the ones that they found were young women 48:18 Like 13 or 16 years old 48:20 But I don't know if that's what these are Wow one of them looks like a woman one of the right looks like a woman 48:28 That's so crazy, but that's where things get so weird when you go back and you realize 48:37 that entire cultures, they engaged in ritual sacrifice at a mass scale, like what the Aztecs 48:46 did. 48:46 They did wild mass sacrifice and their culture was so, it involved sacrifice so much that 48:55 they would go out and get other people, and that's one of the reasons why Cortez was able 49:00 to group all these other people to attack the Aztecs. 49:03 These motherfuckers have been killing us ritually forever. 49:06 Yeah. 49:07 We're happy to kick these guys' ass. 49:08 Oh, wait. 49:09 You're not going to help us out afterwards? 49:12 One of my favorite stories about that afterwards is they're like, okay, we need all you guys 49:16 to bring all your codices here so that we can put them on these shelves. 49:19 And so like all these Mesoamerican codices show up and the Spanish fryer is like torch 49:25 Fuck you watch the ball bird. Yeah, and there's like a handful left that exists now 49:29 I know they just bought as like three years ago 49:32 They bought those ones from a family in Mexico that it had them for like 500 years and one of them talks about the building of 49:38 tail tea will come whoa 49:39 And the Mexican government bought it for like 250 grand it was like like I was telling Matt Bell and Matt Bell's like that's fucking nothing 49:46 Dope trophies some of these are fucking sick 49:49 Ancestor chief skull. Wow hold on though. Wait till I get to some of these down here. Holy shit 49:55 So now imagine this 49:58 These crazy man, you sure they aren't from Hellraiser. This is like straight out of the predator. Yeah, so these were found in Asia 50:04 Why dear God, I don't know some of this looks almost like this is like from out of a movie 50:09 Well, they've glued like tusks under some of the skulls 50:15 Go go back up a little bit 50:17 Well, it's like somehow yeah that one on the right with the the horn coming out of his nose 50:22 Human child trophies 50:25 Human child trophies go what the fuck man 50:30 How did I never hear about this before? Well, how about the one with the headsets on? 50:36 Sets I don't 50:39 What the fuck man, why why is it say info email you selling these yeah, I mean 50:44 I stumbled across something here. It does say art 50:48 Tribal art Asia 50:51 Yeah, that actually doesn't look like a skull that looks like it's carved out of wood like the nose part 50:56 It's all filled in you imagine if they found out there was a website. You just ordered trophy skulls 51:01 That's what I was like. I was finding a recreated ones on Etsy 51:06 people are making 51:09 Oh, it says it's a replica Lord 51:12 but 51:13 What kind of a fucking Etsy person made by monster that's that kind of person 51:20 It's like I even try to hide it like a good dude with it 51:24 Etsy page just skulls. That's wild 51:28 But you know even 51:30 Some of these old Mac heads have hair lips 51:34 Like I got a picture that saved on one of those that has it it was and again 51:39 If you mingle Neanderthal or Denisovan DNA with human DNA 51:44 This is the thing was you end up with facial deformations including hair lids. I think it's real, bro 51:49 What? 51:50 Early a 20th century dyac and sized trophy skull and it's got a name it costs a lot of money 51:58 And they say where it came from you could buy that. Yeah 52:02 talking about good for the price 52:04 Do you think that you imagine if we had a fucking skull, human skull in the dust, that's 52:10 too creepy? 52:10 That is. 52:11 Because we don't know how the guy died or the woman died. 52:13 From a private collection from Thousand Oaks, California. 52:16 Oh, wow. 52:16 See how many private collections are out there? 52:19 I was telling you... 52:19 See if you can find elongated skull for sale. 52:21 I was telling you about Concomely. 52:22 That's the type of guy here, honestly, that I was looking. 52:25 I was telling you about that chief Concomely. 52:27 He was a huge friend to the honkeys that came through that area. 52:31 He he married off his daughters to fur trappers. He cried when they moved the fort 30 miles away 52:36 He was like he was a bunch of braves came up and said we're gonna go kill all these white guys 52:40 He's like hey, hey, do you know see how tight they're tightly woven their cloth is do you see how strong their weapons are? 52:46 Do you see any of their kids or their women? 52:48 Do you think this is all they're capable of or do you think they're gonna bring more to bear when they bring their 52:52 Families with them. Let's not fuck with these guys. He was really shrewd and smart 52:55 He died three years later some British dude chopped his fucking head off 52:59 They actually had hit him they instead of these a grub above ground canoe burials 53:03 They'd hit him because they knew dude chops his head off 53:05 Ships the skull back to England. It wasn't until this this came out five years after they'd repatriated the skull to the Chinook people 53:13 But yeah, they actually carved on the back of his fucking head even like 53:19 Yeah, here chief concomely we put here's his skull and here's a friend's if you can't see it 53:25 They engraved that on the back of his skull. Oh 53:29 Oh my God. 53:30 It's like so horrific. 53:32 And like, so you could see why the Smithsonian 53:35 might be a little hard pressed in letting this stuff out. 53:38 But, well, the Peruvian skulls though, 53:43 when you look at them and you look at the monsterot, 53:46 do you think there's more to this story? 53:49 Is this as simple as cranial deformation 53:54 plus they do it on purpose? 53:56 Or is there a potential for a different species of human that live there? 54:01 There's almost certainly in my opinion a different species is human to live there 54:04 And I mean even you know, I'm not into the ancient alien stuff, but I don't honestly I wouldn't be if if 54:09 If there was aliens intermingling with humans, this would probably be the best smoking gun place for it 54:15 There's also all the evidence that they were building art that you could only see from the sky exactly which is really weird 54:21 Which is really weird and even things like? 54:24 Like that condolabra the Andes that I wish that's visible again 12 miles out to sea 54:29 Easter Islands close enough imagine the guys jumping down from right here from Portland, Oregon 54:34 Just jumping down the coasts to Paracas where we drawn the conclusion that that it represents genetic engineering 54:40 I wouldn't have drawn it to begin with but it looks like a family tree 54:43 And it's like with everything else lined up all the sudden it's like well 54:46 I mean if you're trying to say hey guys, this is where we do this what symbol would you use right and that's well 54:53 Okay. Again, if this was in a vacuum, that's not how I got there. This is kind of the icing 54:58 on the cake is the paracus condolabra and that textile thing. The honest to God evidence 55:03 is, I mean, there's a lot of papers, a handful of papers that I've got screenshots of there, 55:08 but you pick your genetic deformation and then Google it with Denisoven or Neanderthal 55:13 and you almost garren fucking teed. Hydrocephalus, that big skull thing that I showed there. 55:18 You see a few of those in paracus with those great big things. Hydrocephalus is 55:21 something that's, they, is the frequency is increased when you mingle Denisovan or Neanderthal DNA. 55:28 It's a constant issue. 55:29 That candelabra image, does that image appear in other areas? 55:34 It actually does. 55:35 It's, crazily enough, it appears in Easter Island on skulls that are carved with that 55:42 same image. 55:44 Wow. 55:44 I, I, I didn't put any in the file, but I've got them in a video. 55:48 There's two of them that they have. 55:50 One is like a straight line and then one's like a bird man kind of it, but it's the same image 55:54 It's the same when you say skull do you mean humans? I mean I DC 55:58 Decorated like those we were just looking at so a dead human that has that on their head that they'd scratched it in afterwards like 56:05 There's a the pera the Easter Island had elongated skulls, but almost all of those are gone 56:12 They're and they're hard to find images of like impossible 56:14 But they do have these and they were like they would do artwork on skulls after they would die 56:20 And a few of them do strongly resemble the condolabra. The onion is is that condolabra? 56:26 Is that anywhere else down there is another other? 56:30 Not that I've seen can I see that again, please the candelabra because 56:35 The family tree thing. It's like is it the same 56:41 configuration on the Easter Island heads 56:44 Or is it similar? 56:47 It's not identical, but it's really close. 56:50 Look for Easter Island Modified School, Jamie, and that'll probably pull up the... 56:55 It'll be a paper. 56:56 I doubt you'll find it in the images section. 57:01 But if you click all, there should be a paper that... 57:06 Maybe I have to go to Google Scholar to find it. 57:08 I apologize. 57:08 I apologize, but yeah, there's artwork on these things 57:14 and a handful of them that is artwork on two of them 57:21 in particular that's got that same fork symbol. 57:25 And one of them, they call a bird man. 57:28 There we go, bam, there's the bird man. 57:31 And then on the same page, 57:33 you should see, good job, Jamie, you're fucking pimp. 57:35 So they did a bunch of art on these skulls, 57:38 but two of them have that same symbol. 57:43 Do they show that here? 57:44 They're right there. 57:45 I don't know. 57:46 Hmm. 57:47 Oh, it's got that thing that's pretty. 57:48 Similar, super similar. 57:51 Yeah, not identical for sure, 57:52 but it does have the same three things 57:56 forking together to make one. 57:57 So it's just a theory that that's the tree of life. 58:00 Or that's the family tree, rather. 58:02 Yeah, that's totally, again, 58:04 that family tree thing is completely my thing. 58:08 Um, I'm way this one represents a penis entering a vulva right in the back of that 58:14 He drew it on his head. I think I was like the earliest bad tattoo 58:19 Maybe they were honoring person's ability to deep throat. Oh this far back fucker gave you skull. You knew it 58:28 But yeah, again, I got the these the imagery and stuff 58:31 I can't be a hundred percent. All right. I mean you could never be a hundred percent on this stuff, but the genetic 58:37 Those wormian bones I showed you on the back, they call them Inca bones for a reason because 58:41 they show up in the Inca. 58:43 The Incas have a higher, the South American in Peru, they have a higher instance of cleft 58:47 pallets, they have a higher instance of polydactyly, they have a, just pick your fucking thing 58:51 that's in line with all this and it happens more there than it does almost anywhere 58:54 else in the world. 58:56 And then when you see everything else, the elongated skulls that frankly beggared belief, 59:01 life, imagery and stuff that seems to ... The way that they praised genetic deformations, 59:08 it seems almost unthinkable that they wouldn't be trying to ... 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That's legit 62:01 What is that? 62:03 Because I don't think that 1200 years ago people were capable of recreating something like that. That's gonna survive 62:09 I think that's good 62:10 Why would you do the kind of work that they did that you can only see from a 62:15 CAT scan? Because the entire outside of it is covered. Yeah. Right? It's got the 62:20 the white clay and it's all mummified and this tissue that's mummified. Yeah. How? 62:27 No. How the fuck did you do that? That's a very, that's a good point. 62:31 And again, the one gene that's responsible for polydactyly in mice, when they introduced 62:41 it, the Gli3 variant that happens in Denisovans and Neanderthal, in mice caused extra ribs, 62:49 extra vertebrae, skull misshapen, dental morphology fucked up, and sometimes extra 62:55 fingers. 62:55 Sometimes good extra fingers, sometimes bad extra fingers. 62:57 Did the mice figure out how to get out of the cage 63:02 Leaving notes pink scratch notes in the window. Let me out pinky today. We conquer the world 63:10 Well, do you think the Smithsonian has had giant bones? 63:15 Yes, I not only that but like so funny what I was here last time I would have I would have told you 63:20 I don't think so. I mean maybe six foot five, but I've done a lot of research in a sense thing 63:25 Fuck. Okay. One dude who I'm sure I'll get his name wrong, his name is Ailes Hydelica. 63:30 He was a guy from Hungary who was a medical doctor. He had this theory that it's a lot 63:35 like the same theory of phrenology, like Leonardo DiCaprio poking all back to school. 63:41 Boy, that makes you docile. Except for it was all encompassing with the skeleton. 63:46 He believed that you could do it with arms and bones, arm bones and leg bones and all 63:50 of it. So he left medical science to become an anthropologist to push that narrative. 63:56 He fucking said it point blank. And then he goes out and says, oh, all these Indian bones 64:02 that you guys have that are bigger than white people bones, didn't happen. This guy's got 64:07 a vested interest in proving that white people are superior and that he believes 64:12 that you prove this by the skeletons. And he comes out and debunks all the giant 64:16 bones. And the way he did it, he's like, oh, see these bones, these aren't giant 64:20 It's like, yeah, when I get pulled over by the cop, I pull out the, I don't have any 64:23 drugs on me, officer, CDs or cigarettes. 64:25 What year is this again? 64:28 1930s. 64:28 And are there images of these bones, these guys displaying? 64:32 Very, very little. 64:33 It's almost all of this has just been scrubbed. 64:35 So what was he saying those bones were? 64:38 He was just saying that, he said that people mismeasured them. 64:42 This is where it gets really, really ugly. 64:45 He accuses people, some of these guys were really good at their job and he'll 64:48 accuse them of mismeasuring them and not knowing how to properly apply a tape measure. 64:53 And the worst example of this, in 1959, 20 years after this dude's on this, the dude in 64:59 charge of the Department of the Humanities at the Carnegie Museum, Dr. Don Dorgue, dug 65:04 up in one of these adenomounds a skeleton and he says, according to the in-ground measurements, 65:10 this indicates an individual that in life would have been seven foot three inches 65:14 tall. 65:15 They debunk it by saying, well, this is just an in-ground measurement. 65:18 This is just, it hasn't, he didn't do any other, any other work with it or anything. 65:23 It's like the man flat-out said it indicates. 65:25 He was, it's 1959, 15 years after they had all the mathematical formula for doing skeletons. 65:31 This guy, they threw him straight under the fucking bus to debunk that skeleton that 65:35 you can't find anywhere because they won't show it to you. 65:38 So it's like, and this was in 59, again, and a guy in charge of a big department 65:43 the Carnegie Museum, not Dan digging in the backyard. So is there a chain of 65:48 custody of that skeleton? Like can that be traced? All the way to the Carnegie 65:54 Museum where we don't know what happened to it now. This is a 65:58 consistent issue with these remains. If it's a giant bone or elongated skull and 66:03 you want to know more about it, a real good chance you're not going to be 66:06 able to find anything. So what do you think was going on? Do you think there 66:10 There was a completely different species of enormous people? 66:14 Or maybe even just some of us that had some different DNA in us than somebody else, just 66:21 a little bit of, you know, I mean, honestly. 66:23 But the six finger, six toe thing keeps coming up. 66:27 Yeah. 66:27 Again, we get that now with just a little bit of Neanderthal DNA, right? 66:31 So you get different species that had more Denisovan in them than us, and still technically 66:36 might be the same species, but not... 66:38 Do you think it's possible that these giants were Denisovans? 66:43 It's possible. 66:44 Because Denisovans were a lot larger than us, right? 66:47 Yeah, at least six inches, I'd say. 66:49 And if you had a big one, like this shack, right? 66:52 And there's me. You know what I mean? 66:54 Like, if you have a really big one, like, 66:57 isn't it possible that there's a range of even those things? 67:01 Like, we only have a couple bones, right? 67:03 And I think there's something that just came out from China 67:07 Yeah. 67:08 About Homo Juluensis, you know, that they think it might be Denisovan, that it might be the 67:14 same thing? 67:15 Yeah. 67:16 Yeah. 67:16 Dragon Man, the same thing. 67:17 That's been out for a little bit now. 67:19 But yeah, they're... 67:19 There was something that was like super recent where they were proposing, because I think 67:23 they're trying to figure out what we're talking about, but we're talking about it from 67:27 just a couple of bones. 67:29 There's not a lot. 67:30 It's not like they had a whole graveyard filled with Denisovans with various heights 67:33 and weights and they can get an estimation of like what the medium was. 67:36 Oh, yeah the vast majority of what we know about them comes from DNA, right vast majority 67:41 Yeah, so we have a few bones. Yeah, but then it's like how big how big were they like is this a 12 foot tall person? 67:50 Is that real though? There's five foot tall people and there's nine foot tall people exactly 67:54 What's the tallest person today like eight foot? 67:57 Alive now. I'm not sure but like Robert Wadlow was like he had a real problem. Yeah. Yeah giant 68:03 gigantism that's like a tumor on the pituitary gland just keep on growing yeah 68:08 but I think that just for just an outsized enormous person I think the 68:13 record today is like okay eight foot two point eight inches in 2011 yo Sultan 68:20 Kosen of Turkey okay come on man guy lives in Turkey just like the one of the 68:28 oldest DNAs in the world, where Gobekli Tepi is, is this guy a giant? 68:33 Holy crap. 68:34 What size is that guy? 68:36 Holy crap. 68:36 What does he look like when he's standing up? 68:38 Put him over there. 68:39 Okay. 68:40 And he doesn't even look like he has gigantism. 68:44 Does he? 68:45 I don't know. 68:45 He just looks like a giant dude. 68:47 He doesn't have like a misshaped head or anything like that, either way. 68:54 Pretty impressive. 68:55 Now I'm at you know is that 68:58 Imagine is that is that a gene thing like is that is that capable of being? 69:03 Is that old is that some old DNA from some other kind of human? 69:09 Or is that just a really big person? 69:13 That's a different guy. That's a guy in China, right? 69:16 and 69:17 The six finger six toes once is that ubiquitous is that does that occur in all of the reports of these bodies? 69:23 No, it doesn't. 69:25 Some of them have two roasts of tea, some of them have six fingers and six toes. 69:30 What is, like, I got pretty skeptical about, because there's a lot of giant reports in America 69:34 where people were digging up mounds, and so I got kind of skeptical about who I was 69:38 taking it from. 69:39 Like, Joe Farmer, I just was like, okay, maybe not. 69:43 But if the guy was, like some of these guys were really good at what they did, 69:46 and they'd say they recorded something, it was, so there's probably a dozen solid 69:51 accounts that are from people that weren't bullshit artists that had more to lose than 69:55 they did to gain. 69:56 And some of them were, two of them in particular, are like good scientists, like well-known 70:03 anthropologists respected in their field, and they were finding giant bones. 70:06 And even today, like that guy that I told you about, Dr. Dandregu, there was an anthropologist 70:11 right now that hurt like two or three years ago. 70:13 She debunked his work by claiming that he just did an in-ground measurement and 70:17 that was it. 70:18 And it's like he clearly said this indicates an individual that was this tall in life 70:22 It's like I did a measurement on this and it indicates that's clearly telling you 70:26 I didn't just take a dead measure right and they just throw his ass right on the fucking bus in order to keep this narrative going and that's where 70:33 it's weird to me because I don't think 70:35 Flint Dibble and all of his friends give two shits about the giant narrative like 70:42 Rockefeller does I think it's way more of an ego thing with them because 70:46 is archaeology is not a fucking science, Joe. Not even close. It functions like a science 70:51 like religion does. So these guys, they all know it. They know they're larping as scientists. 70:55 They know that when they call us science deniers, they're full of shit. So they just 70:58 have to... The only thing they can do is puff their chest because... 71:01 Well, some of it is science, right? 71:02 Well, sure some of it is, but let me put a tea like this. 71:04 Okay. So why are you saying... 71:06 Archaeology is a study of human culture by material remains. Okay. Now, science, 71:11 science, the cornerstone of science is replicability, arguably. 71:15 If I combine hydrogen and oxygen and you combine hydrogen, we should get the same thing. 71:21 Now, if I dig up something in my backyard, can you replicate that? 71:27 Or are you beholden to ... What if Joseph Smith digs up gold plates and I dig up an 71:31 arrowhead? 71:32 You believe one and not the other? 71:33 Right. 71:34 But you can put protocols in place where you have a bunch of people that are all 71:37 responsible for making sure that everything goes according to plan. 71:40 And they all report to someone else but you know, but how is it replicable? Well, it's not replicable 71:47 But they are 71:48 Exposing these ancient remains and they are using 71:53 But they can use some scientific carbon dating. Absolutely. They're using physics there. Yeah, that's physics, right? 71:59 That's this word when he comes down to you 72:02 Fundamentally archaeology cannot be 72:05 science, any more than theology. Fundamentally, a miracle. You either believe or you don't. 72:10 I dug up something in my backyard. You either believe it or you don't. You can't replicate 72:13 either one of these things. 72:14 Right, but you can film people pulling things out of the ground. You can prove that it's 72:19 old. You can, you can, but there's a lot of instances where like they're doing a 72:24 construction dig in Mexico City and they find like stone, they stop construction. Archaeologists 72:30 come in. Like there's a whole chain of custody of where this stuff's coming 72:33 from. 72:34 Absolutely. 72:35 So, isn't that kind of scientific? 72:36 Kind of. 72:37 I mean, again, okay, there's a chain of custody on the Epstein letters, right? 72:43 Right. 72:44 But at point it falls apart because of, do you believe or do you not? 72:48 That's what it really comes down to with archaeology is I can't replicate the findings. 72:53 And if you can't replicate the ... I'm not saying it's worthless. 72:57 Right. 72:57 A historian knows better than to call themselves a scientist. 73:00 They know it's not ... They use scientific methods. 73:03 A video game speed runner, if you know what that is, somebody's trying to like beat Super 73:07 Mario Bros. 73:08 Okay. 73:08 They use science. 73:09 So, you'll put an archaeologist more in the line of historian. 73:12 Absolutely. 73:13 Well, yeah. 73:14 They are there. 73:14 Yeah. 73:15 Both of them call somebody else when it comes time to carbon date. 73:19 You know, it's the, again, the reproducibility is crucial. 73:25 And like the argument that they always go to is, well, like, well, astronomy is 73:29 not reproducible. 73:30 if you have a supernova, you can't reproduce that. Well, yeah, except I have a hundred telescopes 73:34 all trained on it. So if this guy's data set and that guy's data set, jibe, it's been reproduced. 73:40 If I've got one arrowhead to dug up out of the ground, we either believe that this dude dug 73:46 up the arrowhead out of the ground or we don't. And this especially matters when it becomes 73:49 to these unique one-off finds. It's one thing when it's an arrowhead. It's another thing 73:53 all together when it's the anti-chitra mechanism. And so this is where our archaeology 73:58 you become some people, you could understand why somebody might believe the anti-kiss or 74:03 mechanisms bullshit. 74:04 And at that point, it goes directly what I'm saying. 74:07 It's faith-based. 74:08 Dude, does this coincide with my worldview or not? 74:11 Which is why archaeology is like this huge split in between these people that are guys 74:18 that are trying to puff their chests and say that it really is what they claim it 74:24 to be. 74:24 And then there's people that are actually just doing good work and they'll be quick 74:27 to tell you. 74:27 You know, at the end of the day, our results aren't, you know, we do science where we 74:31 can, but we can't say for sure that our results are scientific because it's a lot of guesswork 74:37 at the end. 74:38 And that becomes a problem when they do things like Clovis first, when they're like, we're 74:43 going to use our science to beat everything else off the table. 74:46 It's not fucking science, bitch. 74:48 So get it out of here. 74:50 And that's where, yeah, the same thing like I was saying earlier with the COVID 74:53 thing. 74:53 You don't get to too many of us know what the scientific method is for you just to come in here and tell us it's something else 74:59 You did fuck well when Dibble was trying to deny that they did that like deny that 75:03 Archeologists will attack people that have evidence of something that contradicts their assertions 75:10 Like that's crazy. 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Jimmy Corsetti two years ago on ex-posts. I wonder if the 79:00 Nephilim in the Bible where the Denisovans are in the Anderthal or something like that. 79:04 At the time they didn't know Denisovans were taller than us so all the archaeologists, 79:08 oh Jimmy's stupid, the Nephilim were supposed to be taller than us and both of these species 79:12 are shorter. And I even said, I'm like, I'll just let this go a couple of days and I'm 79:16 going to show you guys what you're doing wrong. And I let them go at it and I was 79:18 like, okay let's try this. As a science communicator, let's try it like this. Hey Jim, 79:23 Those ones are shorter than humans, but there are other species of RK acute hominid like gigantopithecus that were taller than us 79:29 It might fit the bill. Why don't you look into that and see what you find you take somebody's passion? 79:34 They're looking at the rabbit hole you shove them in head first that science communication 79:38 I'm telling them the rabbit hole ain't fucking there clover. You're at that's 79:41 Being a well, I also think we should all operate all human beings under this assumption 79:46 We don't have all the evidence for all the humans that lived we just don't we only have a 79:53 tiny fraction, we have fossilized remains, especially when shit gets really old. 79:58 We don't have enough data. 80:00 And if you just operate on we don't have enough data, which is pure, pure, everyone should 80:05 agree on that. 80:06 So once you have, then say, okay, this is the data we have, and this points to the 80:12 fact that new humans are emerging that we're finding, and we might be wrong about 80:18 the number that existed. 80:19 And potentially there could be a cave somewhere in Siberia or wherever and they find another bone and they go 80:26 Holy shit. What is this one? 80:28 This is a totally different kind of person and now you have another one and you have another one 80:32 and who knows how many of them there were and this will give us a richer understanding of what took place and 80:38 Then I think Michael Buttons has a really good video where he's talking about 80:43 how anatomically human and anatomically similar humans existed a 80:47 a long time ago. 80:50 Like why would we assume that civilization 80:52 and complex thinking and tool making and technology 80:57 only emerged in the last couple hundred years 81:00 when the exact same species existed 81:02 hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of years ago? 81:06 Isn't it possible that something, 81:09 some human a long time ago had figured out some stuff 81:13 and we have no evidence of it anymore 81:16 Because of just natural wear and the weathering and the earth absorbs things. There's nothing left. Yeah, that seems more logical 81:23 Yeah, I completely agree. Yeah, I love Mike. He's great 81:27 The Michael button. Yeah, he's great. It was one of the things honestly. I just a really quickly 81:31 I've loved watching the last year and a half since I've been on here left 81:35 Well, you just kind of went through my litany of friends and stuck them in this chair one after the fucking other man 81:39 It's like, hey, that's Luke. Hey, I don't like cook. I don't like hey 81:42 That was really good to see man 81:44 It's a fun time, it's a fun time to get cool people to talk about cool shit. 81:48 And the passion that these guys have, like you say, that's honestly, it's a huge thing. 81:55 You know, Duncan gave me a really good compliment, Duncan Trussell saying that I was all passionate 82:00 like a fucking, well, what's that guy that did all calculus and stuff, the old school 82:06 Sir Isaac Newton, and I was like, damn, I don't think I'm like that. 82:09 But thank you. 82:10 I've probably got as many chemicals in my body, but um 82:14 Isaac Newton a tripper. No, no, he was a he was an alchemist. So he like died of mercury poison 82:21 He this is one of the funniest things. I love saying this one on Twitter. I say it once every couple of years 82:26 This way the world we live in now where they'll take a scientist and they'll say like yeah 82:30 But this guy's political opinions are all skewed. So fuck this guy 82:33 It's like you know what they would have done with Sir Isaac 82:35 We wouldn't have the theory of gravity or calculus that have been like 82:37 Yeah, that guy denies the trinity and he's fucking an alchemist 82:42 Why would I put up with this crazy guy's bullshit? It's like, right? 82:46 Yeah, but yeah, it's it's it's I guess one of the things I've actually come to a lot of terms with on my own little searching in this community is that 82:55 There's a lot of people that I disagree with on fucking 80% 82:58 But that 20% that they're if they bring honest data to the table 83:02 Yeah, like am I best example of this is goes all the way back to the 1880s 83:07 Carl Christian Raffin, or the 1830s even, he was an anthropologist. 83:12 He believed that the Norse discovered America before Columbus, and the reason he believed 83:17 this was because every time he'd see a rock with a glyph on it, he's like, damn them 83:21 dumb Indians didn't know how to carve no fucking rocks, granted all their weapons are made 83:25 out of stone, but anyway, they don't know how to make this. 83:27 So must have been a white guy. 83:28 So he does research, research, research, research, and eventually finds out that 83:32 it was the Norse that be, now he was pissing up a rope with his fucking line 83:36 of evidence, but he did honest research and he got us real data, so I'm finding a lot 83:42 that I just have to like, I really don't like you, but okay, what do you got to say? 83:47 This is a part of the problem with the Atlantis thing, and this is why guys like Flint always 83:50 connected to racism, because there were a group of people that were white supremacists 83:54 that believed that the white race was responsible for Atlantis, but those are 83:59 not like credible historians. 84:01 These are also not in the same group of people as Graham or you or Ben Van Kirkwijk or any 84:07 of these people. 84:08 No one is saying that. 84:09 So to connect people to something like Atlantis where there are problematic people that believed 84:17 something that was racist, just because you're talking about Atlantis, doesn't mean everybody 84:21 who's investigating Atlantis is also problematic and racist. 84:25 That's crazy. 84:26 Well, they say well it encourages racism and my I always I always jump with they go 84:31 Would you see how many their evidence you see how many white supremacist site the stuff and I always might always go? 84:36 Well, you see how many white supremacist site all kinds of statistics water poverty and crime and all these other things 84:41 Should we should we get rid of all of these statistics, too? 84:43 We should just quick gas anything that a white supremacist might use do you remember is a Mack tonight commercial 84:48 Who was the big the big the McDonald's moon man? No, you don't you remember? 84:53 Over years ago, but we were kids in the 80s, when I was a kid in the 80s, they had a big 85:00 moon man guy that was singing a Mack the Knife parody, when the clock strikes, half past six 85:05 babe, time to head for Golden Lines, okay, about 15 years ago, they started using a thing 85:11 with like some weird voice chat and this guy's making racist memes. 85:15 Does that mean that McDonald's is fucking racist or does it just mean that racists 85:18 will co-opt fucking anything, including Pepe the Frog? 85:21 Pepe the Frog is the best example. 85:22 Thank you. 85:23 That poor guy who made Pepe the Frog, that guy was like, that's not me. 85:30 And so, but so, and that's exactly what these guys do, man. 85:34 We can't talk about anything without it being racist. 85:37 It's like, well, that's just a way to dismiss you. 85:41 It's a way to web and to drag other people in. 85:44 Hey man, this guy's tall and talking shit about the pyramids. 85:47 Yeah, whatever. 85:47 Oh, he's also racist. 85:48 Oh, fuck. 85:49 We got 5% of them came over. 85:51 Cool. 85:51 Well, yeah, it's really pathetic and, you know, in all honesty, I get shit during the 85:58 election cycles from friends and from fans that, for not supporting X, Y, or Z. And I 86:04 always tell them the same thing, look, what's up most of the third or fucking said the second 86:08 I talk about ancient history, bitch, I'm not talking about modern politics. That's 86:11 not what I'm doing. It's not, and I'm certainly not going to endorse somebody 86:15 on my platform. As a matter of fact, why do you care what Beyonce says about 86:18 Why do you care about any of these fuck these people aren't political analysts? Why do you care that much? 86:24 Why are you calling up my ass about well? Yeah, but you know you've got the people wants 86:30 People want us to all be towing a certain it's it's funny 86:34 I swear to God what it's like the whole country's got like probably a third of us are little hitlers 86:38 The whole world will be better if everybody just thought just like me 86:41 They think they're the open-minded 86:44 It's really weird, but it's just the nature of the tribal world that we're living in right 86:48 now and it's so divided. 86:50 And this is one of the giant problems in social media. 86:53 And I think it's great that everyone has an opinion. 86:55 And I think it's great that everyone gets to express an opinion. 86:58 It doesn't mean that you should listen. 87:00 It doesn't mean you should absorb it. 87:02 It doesn't mean that it's a valid opinion. 87:05 You'll find the valid opinions, but you have to sort through the bad ones. 87:09 And this is how it's always going to be. 87:10 There's always going to be that have people have a take on it that you fiercely disagree with 87:14 People have the least charitable view of this person or this idea or this thing 87:19 You're always going to have a spectrum of ideas and you have to allow it 87:24 That's how it is and you have to counter that with a better perspective. That's it 87:29 I and if you're coming at it from you want to silence and destroy everyone who disagrees with you 87:34 especially on something as complex as ancient history like that seems like 87:40 you're doing a bad thing that seems like you're denying the resource of all 87:45 these obsessed people yeah it's I can completely agree with you as a matter 87:50 of fact they're getting something wrong like yeah have a conversation with 87:53 those people and explain why they're getting something wrong but but be good 87:57 faith about it the society for American archaeology's original bylaws 88:02 Their very first law was their intention was to cultivate a better relationship between 88:10 interested amateurs and professional archaeologists and to offer help when requested to those 88:17 interested amateurs. 88:18 They're doing neither one of those things right now. 88:20 Number one, they are pissing all over the relationship between people that are interested 88:24 amateurs and the professional archaeologists. 88:27 They can't even talk to each other anymore. 88:29 And don't you think that's also a little bit of jealousy because these interested in amateurs have all of a sudden 88:34 They come to the forefront and they're making money off of it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah 88:38 I mean it was found out that I had supporters. He lost his shit. People pay him money for the oh my fucking guy 88:45 So silly 88:46 But it's also like just YouTube revenue guys like Ben van Kirkwick's videos get millions of views 88:52 You know like there's there's real money in it and they're not making money 88:56 No. 88:57 Not like that. 88:57 No. 88:58 And they got to be pissed. 88:59 I'm sure that's part of it. 89:00 I went to school for this. 89:01 But the other thing, and to get to that bylaws, it says to offer help when requested to interest 89:07 in damages. 89:07 When's the last time Graham Hancock asked one of these cocksuckers for their opinion? 89:10 They don't. 89:12 They give them the help whether he wants it or not. 89:15 They've completely lost the plot. 89:17 Well, the problem is the way they frame it. 89:20 When they were talking about his Netflix show being one of the most dangerous shows 89:23 on television. 89:24 How is it dangerous to talk about evidence of a law civilization? 89:29 That seems insane. 89:31 Their egos are at the... 89:33 Have you ever read that letter from that to that they wrote to Netflix? 89:36 Yes. 89:37 Okay. 89:37 They had three problems, right? 89:39 And they list them one, two, three. 89:42 Now you would assume these are professional archaeologists and they're talking about 89:44 Graham Graham. 89:45 How could you assume number one is he got a bunch of shit wrong? 89:48 Right. 89:48 No, number one is he talks shit about archaeologists and he doesn't listen 89:51 to us. 89:52 That was number one. 89:53 It was they couldn't even hide their ego in the fucking list. It's like 89:58 It's just also not true. They're petulant children. I swear to fucking guy also not true. Yeah, he listens 90:03 Oh, dude, he puts them on it. Yeah, the difference is he doesn't want to deal with the guy 90:08 If you're gonna come in and just poo poo everything and say no, that's not true. No, that's not true 90:11 No, that's not well, then yeah, you're not gonna 90:15 Yeah, I'm not gonna put up with that shit 90:17 You guys have an actual conversation with me sure 90:20 But if you just what were the other two problems the other two problems one wasn't he was wrong with the other one was that it promotes white supremacy 90:27 And and the best part about that is they say because this this theory that the exact wording is this theory dates to 90:35 1882 and Ignatius Donnelly blah blah blah Ignatius Donnelly was a 90:40 Left when he was liberal as fuck. He was a feminist and an abolitionist 90:44 But he was also a white dude in the 1800s. He's racist fuck by modern standards, right? 90:48 Right? 90:49 Just like all the archaeologists were back then, but don't bother with that. 90:52 They pick him and they say, this guy's the one that started the problem. 90:55 He's the one that created this theory, but you go back 20 years. 90:59 And Augustus Le Plignon and some other dude, I'm losing his name right now, but there 91:04 were two French Americans that believed that the Maya were the Atlanteans, that the 91:10 Amaya had conquered the world, that the Maya were the master race, if you're 91:13 going to look at it that way. 91:14 But they're going to ignore that when they submit this stuff to Netflix because it doesn't just they wanted to make 91:21 It sound like this entire shit was created to support white supremacy when it was actually not but they 91:27 so my my point here is in a debate when it constantly revolves around you guys are lying about our past 91:34 They lie about what happened 15 fucking minutes ago on the internet where we can all see it 91:38 And then they wonder why we are like ha you guys do why about the fucking boneheads 91:42 Sorry. 91:44 So this guy, what was his theory, the first guy that is problematic even though he's a 91:48 liberal and a feminist? 91:49 Oh, well, he believed that it was white supremacist. 91:52 He believed that the three biblical races, do you know of a word of that? 91:57 Like Noah's three kids, Sam is the Semitic race, the Hamite race was the Africans, 92:03 and then the other one ended up being the Aryans, it was the white people. 92:09 And these three biblical races have, biblical racism, they call it, it's been like a thing 92:14 for a thousand years. 92:16 But he just clung to that idea that it was basically these races of after post-Noah and 92:21 all this. 92:22 So, like, do you know the story with Noah, like he got drunk afterwards? 92:26 No. 92:26 Oh, could you pull? 92:27 You might want to pull this enough, Chewie. 92:30 Like after it's all done, Noah gets all drunk and he's like, later I'm naked and 92:34 one of his sons laughs at him and one of them doesn't. So like he curses the lowest of them and 92:39 he praises the highest. And when you see the Bible verse, it's like, you're going to be the 92:44 servants to this one and he can sleep in your tent whenever he wants. And you can see why 92:47 this was used to promote racial superiority. That's where it came from. So if they really 92:58 wanted to, they could have been saying the Bible created racism and that was a problem. 93:02 But it's also very silly to connect the idea of ancient civilizations to one person. 93:09 That's so silly. 93:10 It's so silly. 93:11 It's so silly. 93:11 Yeah. 93:12 When you're talking about evidence all over the world, we're talking about Balback, we're 93:16 talking about the Maya, we're talking about the Egyptians, we're talking about all over 93:21 the world and you're going to connect it to white supremacy. 93:24 Isn't it more plausible that we don't know what happened? 93:28 Just a little bit. 93:29 I mean, but you got to understand these guys are the ones that follow like I I 93:33 Break your rulesome and I argue with the people in the trenches, right? 93:37 And the guys that follow Flint Dibble they have all the time. They'll make fun of you 93:40 You believe in lost civilizations and my answer is do you think we found every civilization? Oh, no 93:45 So you're just throwing around stupid shit just talking crap 93:48 The idea that there'd be evidence left over other than the stuff that we've already found like what are you looking for? 93:54 That's a hundred thousand years old. No, it doesn't mean that there wasn't something going on a hundred thousand 93:59 And it seems like there was definitely something going on at least 12,000 years ago. 94:04 So that fucks up our whole timeline. 94:06 And they want to still attribute that to hunter-gatherers just for convenience. 94:12 The idea that the Gobekli Tepe structures were made by hunter-gatherers, like why would 94:16 they do that? 94:17 How did they do that? 94:19 How come they didn't make houses, but they made that stuff? 94:23 How come? 94:24 Well, that's a tough one, man. 94:26 You know... 94:26 What were their tools? 94:27 They're looking at, you know, Karan Tepe, they're actually talking about covering that again. 94:32 Like, did it go back? 94:33 Which is fucked. 94:34 I don't know if you know of Megalithomania, Hugh Newman, he's, they're not a lot of people 94:40 that I would mention on your show, but he's definitely one of them. 94:43 He's a bad ass. 94:44 He's been doing this forever. 94:46 And he's doing all this arctic astronomy work out there at Karan Tepe, and they're 94:50 covering, they're getting ready to cover it, and he's just going, uh, uh. 94:53 Why are they covering it? 94:54 What they're claiming is to for tourism to protect the site and all this 94:58 That's what you think it is. I don't know. It might that might well be it 95:02 I do know that doesn't protect the site though. If you don't allow you know 95:06 But it's stone, right? Yeah. I mean honestly 95:11 Honestly, it gets weird when you look at the third world because or poorer countries like that because you know 95:17 My iPhone could feed a family over there for a month 95:20 So it's like these guys are gonna do they got a different set of priorities than us 95:24 So, wouldn't you think that more things getting exposed would equal more tourism, which would 95:31 equal more revenue? 95:32 Yes and no. 95:33 I did a video a while back about Zahi Hawass being a heel, like a wrestling heel, deliberate. 95:40 I'm 100% on this. 95:42 Really? 95:42 Oh yeah. 95:43 I'm not saying that he doesn't do shady shit. 95:45 I'm saying that he plays the villain. 95:48 I'll give you some examples. 95:50 There's a clip of him after shortly after Arab Spring. He's talking about how to increase tourism 95:56 He has two things is one you don't want tourists from any old country 96:00 You want Japanese Americans Chinese Germans? You don't want the rest you want people to come in and change your world 96:06 second thing is 96:08 Doesn't matter. What's happening in Egypt those New Age people they come 96:13 Doesn't matter if it's Arab Spring doesn't matter if tourism is down by 40% those New Age people they come 96:20 He's – so then – did I find something? 96:23 Yes, I found it. 96:23 No, I didn't. 96:24 No, I didn't. 96:24 Yes, I did. 96:25 Yes, I did. 96:25 No, I didn't. 96:26 No, I didn't. 96:26 Yes, I did. 96:27 It's – you're – come and investigate. 96:30 Come and investigate. 96:31 Come and look. 96:32 Come and see for yourself. 96:33 Come and pop into those little holes and look for yourself. 96:35 Go look at the place that I told you there was nothing. 96:37 I think, honestly, that's his whole – the reason that he's playing it to the 96:41 hilt, and I think Lee Clair is doing the same thing right now. 96:43 If you watch Lee Clair on – 96:45 I don't know who that is. 96:46 Lee Clair is the archaeologist in charge of gobekli tepe. He's a big big dude down there. And if you look at him on 96:52 Twitter, he's doing the exact same thing. He's constantly arguing. He's picking at Jimmy. I actually blocked the guy 96:57 I don't block many scientists, but I that aren't constantly antagonistic towards me 97:01 He was and every day I'd wake up and more talking shit about me. He's just 97:05 pissing everybody off and the whole point in my opinion is to make it where people want to come and look at what you're 97:12 If something's being hidden, you have to have a villain hiding it, right? 97:15 Give me a touchstone, so I can, what the fuck is Zahi Hawass? 97:17 Think about it. 97:18 What is Zahi Hawass hiding? 97:20 Does that a crazy statement to make? 97:21 No, it's not. 97:22 And I think he cultivated that. 97:24 I think that's an image that he made to increase tourist revenue. 97:27 This episode is brought to you by The Farmer's Dog. 97:30 Here's a fun fact. 97:31 Research shows that dogs who maintain a healthy weight can live up to two and 97:35 a half years longer on average than dogs who are overweight. 97:38 It's not wild and also kind of obvious at the same time so why is feeding vague 97:44 scoops of ultra process kibble still the status quo for most dog owners? 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Oh, no, I'm not saying that he didn't steal stuff 100:20 The weird stuff with things missing is like you would want to really control the narrative if like 100:24 like skeletons that you reported discovering, 100:28 then you say there's no skeletons, right? 100:30 Isn't there one of those in one of the sarcophaguses? 100:33 Yeah, Jimmy was hammering away at that one. 100:35 There was an original story from like the 80s 100:39 that they found the skeleton. 100:40 And they just, no, no skeleton. 100:42 And the problem is what we were talking about before 100:44 that there are wealthy people that will pay you 100:46 an enormous amount of money for the skeleton. 100:49 So if you got some dude, you know, 100:51 he's got Saudi Arabian money 100:52 And he's like, you know, it'd be dope 100:54 I want to fucking Egyptian mummy in my house, you know, and people had them 100:59 I mean this was the thing that they were eating them. Yes. Yes. Yes. God. What? 101:05 Jones that he's like, what the fuck pull it up now 101:08 People would have these mummy unwrapping parties at their homes 101:13 These are very wealthy people and they would eat the mummies. I bet you a lot of those elongated skulls ended up in similar 101:21 I know like who's house how many houses who are these people like how does no one tell on them 101:26 I don't know, but I mean did you look at what you know? 101:30 Five years ago. I would have said Dean. I don't know about all this man 101:33 But now you look at that island you're like, what would you do if somebody gave you an elongated skull? 101:38 Would you give it to museum like what would you do like if somebody gave you one of those really dope 101:42 Peruvian skulls that are crazy without the sagittal suture you looking at the enormous brain capacity the size of the head 101:48 Like what though the size the eye sockets. I have scientists after scientists finger fucking that thing till we got somewhere 101:54 Right, but would you bring it somewhere? 101:57 Where other people could see it would you allow the scientists to take control of it and to take hold of it? 102:04 Because this is my friend John Reeves up in Alaska, you know, he's had some real issues with that 102:08 Yeah, where they'll take bones and then they go up. Nope never getting them back 102:12 Yeah, I know it's been up on the bottom of the harbor 102:14 Yeah, and he won't eat but this was before his time 102:17 But yeah, they did that was that the American Museum of Natural History is that it so the the thing 102:24 He does now is like if you want to do work on these bones you got to come to Alaska 102:27 Yeah, and he built a whole scientific research building and well it makes sense. Yeah, he's like I don't trust any motherfuckers 102:34 Hell you know where the Baghdad battery is right now, don't you where nobody knows 102:38 It was grabbed by alphabet boys at the beginning of the 2000s 102:42 Well, we still which alphabet boys ours, but which one? 102:47 It would be one we don't even know about. 102:48 All I know is, I'm just gonna say, I doubt that the soldier that went in there had decided 102:53 he wanted that thing for himself. 102:56 But speaking of the Baghdad bag, I got a cool little theory on that. 102:59 I don't know if you've ever seen that, but I don't think it was for electricity. 103:01 I think it was to separate metal. 103:03 If you were to use for the electrolyte, if you were to take mine runoff that 103:07 had like gold and silver and copper and iron and nickel and magnesium, all that 103:11 bullshit, you put it in that thing. 103:13 After a while that exact sell that we had the copper would build would have a build-up of gold copper and silver 103:20 All the other shit would go to the bottom 103:23 So you could it would I think it was a way for them to like separate and I think that it the discovery 103:28 This would be super easy drop a copper coin and a metal nail into a puddle of that and come back in two days 103:33 And you're gonna see the build up of gold on that coin 103:35 And so this explains why inside of the thing like there's no residue at all 103:40 Which is one of the reasons they say it didn't happen 103:42 They were harvesting the residue is my even my opinion and this is why you couldn't actually some outs 103:48 Even if they were now that's where it would be nice to test it now 103:51 It hasn't been looked at in a long time, you know, it hasn't been been hard 103:54 It hasn't been tested for anything in a while. Where is it? It's gone. It's in somebody. It's right next to those skulls and those mummies 104:00 It's on some dude's shelf that will really yes the picture of a street mummy seller in 1875 104:06 Jesus Christ 104:08 So this article on the big thing was saying that this was so popular from 1200 to about 18th or sorry the 12th century to the 18th century 104:16 That they kind of ran out of mummies. Yeah 104:20 And can you imagine you could fly over there and pick up a mummy? Well, that's before these parties are even happening 104:25 They thought one of those in the corner over there. No, they thought it was medicine. Yeah, mum. Yeah, and imagine about this once before but it's 104:32 There's these this shit exists all over the place and I wonder if any of them would have been better than kufus 104:37 So what a lot 99 apothecary antiques right up there and upper left. Yeah, what? 104:45 Look at that. Yeah apothecary. So this is like medicine mummy. Yeah, so it's like mummy juice 104:51 This article gets fucking gross mummy powder 104:54 Sprinkled on your state. They were so they were so popular for a long time. They disappeared kind of it's hard to get them 105:00 So they started forging 105:06 How dark and then people bought all the dead bodies and not all doctors thought dry old mummies made the best medicine some doctors 105:13 Believe that fresh meat and blood had a vitality the long dead lacked those guys once the island Napoleon was bringing them back 105:19 And then they would have some parties quote-unquote party 105:23 That was just still like they were doing like research almost if you could say like some medicine research 105:27 And then that didn't last, I was like 30 years of that. 105:30 And then they just started having actual parties 105:33 to show how rich you were that you could have thought of one. 105:35 Hold up, pause right here. 105:37 1834, the surgeon Thomas Pettigrew unwrapped a mummy 105:40 at the Royal College of Surgeons. 105:42 In his time, autospecies and operations 105:44 took place in public. 105:45 And this unwrapping was just another public medical event. 105:49 Soon even the pretense of medical research was lost. 105:53 By now, mummies were no longer 105:54 medicinal but thrilling. 105:55 A dinner host, who can entertain an audience while unwrapping, was rich enough to own 106:00 an actual mummy. 106:02 The thrill of seeing dried flesh and bones appearing as bandages came off meant people 106:07 flocked to these unwrappings, whether in a private home or the theater of a learned 106:12 society. 106:13 Strong drink meant audiences were loud and appreciative. 106:17 And then at some point they tried to say that you two are getting cursed by doing 106:21 this. 106:21 Oh yeah, for sure. 106:22 But I was in the people that filed two didn't comments to them didn't they all die 106:26 That's what this comes up with next year's to uncommon. Yeah sudden death of Lord 106:31 Yeah, our Narva on mm-hmm 106:34 Well, I mean you can understand why people would think that too 106:37 I mean you're going around it and not just defiling the grave and you eat the motherfucker come on 106:42 So it might there might be something to a curse like that. Oh, yeah 106:47 Especially if you believe it. That's the problem. That's how I think Voodoo really works if you really believe that someone could put a 106:54 Hex on you like oh, no, I was joking with this hippie girl in Sedona about that. She was telling me about 107:01 Practical magic. Look at this today the black market of antiquity smuggling including mummies is worth about three billion dollars 107:09 So today the black market right now three billion a year a 107:16 A year a year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a lot. Yeah. It's a fortune. That's a fortune and just in 107:23 Shit that should be in a museum 107:25 3 billion a year. Yeah 107:27 it just makes sense when we see people that are just fucking insane and 107:31 They're rich and they just want a thing that no one that's like the whole thing about like 107:36 Rhino horn right they want to drink rhino horn tea because nobody could get it because it's illegal 107:41 Yep, you guys are talking about the Rockefellers earlier 107:43 And I thought there's a museum started in Jerusalem where they're the Rockefeller Archaeological Museum. Hmm. They had 107:50 60,000 artifacts dating back to two million years ago 107:54 including a 107:56 reported hundred thousand year old skeleton almost complete damn whoa, what happened? 108:02 They also had another one that was 6,500 years old that a while ago was being reported as Noah 108:08 Well, this is where the Dead Sea Scrolls were for a while until they were taken over and then moved to the Dead Sea Scrolls, 108:16 a different museum now that Israel has been officially formed because they were there when it wasn't actually officially Israel, I guess. 108:25 Wow. 108:26 And there's a copper scroll I just stumbled across I didn't know about that was moved to Amman and is now part of the Jordan Museum. 108:33 Wow. 108:34 What's that one? 108:34 One of the Dead Sea Scrolls that looks made out of metal and tin. 108:39 That was part of the Dead Sea Scrolls? 108:41 It was made out of copper? 108:43 Whoa. 108:44 Well, that's a replica. 108:45 Well, that part is probably, I guess, but yes, it was found in Cave 3, where everything 108:50 else was written on parchment. 108:51 This was written on metal. 108:53 Holy shit. 108:55 That's insane. 108:56 Copper mixed with about 1% tin, although no metallic copper remained in the strips. 109:01 The action the centuries had been to convert the metal into brittle oxide 109:06 Unlike the others. It's not a literary work 109:08 But a list of 64 places where various items of gold and silver were buried or hidden 109:13 Not a story. It's a treasure map. Wow a treasure map written on copper 109:17 And a day when copper was a treasure. Wow 109:22 And this is a facsimile is now on display there's got to be so much 109:27 we're missing. 109:28 No, so much we're missing. 109:29 So much buried stuff. 109:31 So much. 109:31 Just think of sub-Saharan Africa used to be lush and green. 109:36 Like, what is under there? 109:38 What's under there? 109:39 Yeah, that's dead on, exactly. 109:43 There's so many places in the world that are that way, if you ask me, that's like 109:47 Easter Island. 109:49 When the sea levels were lower and that thing was a lot bigger and it was part 109:52 of a series of islands that jumped from one to the next. 109:55 You know, you know what Navels of the world are, right? 109:58 What? 109:58 Navels of the world, like... 110:00 Navel. 110:00 Yeah, like a world, like the Yigdrasil, the world tree, right? 110:03 Right. 110:03 Like it connects the underworlds here and heavens. 110:07 This idea is super common through, Kusko had one, the whaling wall is one. 110:13 You're going to go kiss the wall, that's a world navel. 110:18 These are always the Oracle of Delhi, world navel. 110:22 These are always centers of the society, right, Jerusalem, Delhi, Cusco, except for there's 110:30 one at Easter Island. 110:31 The far-flung corner of the Polynesian Empire has a world naval. 110:35 But if you lower the sea levels and look at that as a string of islands, all of a sudden 110:39 it is the center of the empire. 110:41 So I really like to ask an area, out of all the places on the planet, I think 110:45 Easter Island has the most that if we were to, because it's been dug at the 110:49 Least and has a lot there still I mean it's been looted hard 110:53 But it hasn't been looted like Rome has been or Egypt has been not even close 110:58 And I think that I think honestly though there's going to be a lot more there the more that we look I think 111:05 Unfortunately 111:06 Stuff happens too quick we find the stuff and two days later 111:09 It becomes like the tridactyl mummies two days later 111:11 It becomes a news story half the world like you say everything's all polarized now 111:16 You can, you can even pick and choose your fucking scientist when it comes to medicine 111:19 nowadays, Joe. 111:22 It's completely polarized. 111:23 So when it comes to something like archeology, hey, fucking, who do you want? 111:27 What side of the table do you want? 111:29 You'll find somebody with credentials are close enough to get in line with you. 111:33 And so... 111:34 I was talking to a friend of mine about the South American stuff. 111:36 He said the cartels are a huge problem because they realize this $3 billion thing 111:41 of selling these antiquities and they're selling stuff to people Luke told me Luke caverns 111:47 He told me that he's he witnessed that when he was down there 111:50 There were a couple of places he went that he couldn't go into because there were guys with guns out in front 111:54 Oh, wow, so they realized like hey, someone's gonna give me five million dollars for this head. Yeah. Yeah, that's and so we again 112:01 We lose we lose everything we lose all the context. How are they not losing those mummified? 112:08 Tridactyl skeletons 112:10 I'm not really sure. 112:11 That's a good question. 112:12 You know, I would imagine those are soup, imagine we have one of those sitting on the 112:16 table right here. 112:17 That would be pretty cool. 112:19 That would be pretty cool. 112:20 Well, now how much do we have to pay for one of those? 112:24 Probably quite a bit. 112:25 Well, to that part of the world, you might get away with 250 grand like they did those 112:28 codices. 112:30 The Mexican government, like I was saying, they bought those little codices pretty 112:32 cheap, man. 112:33 250 grand is a lot, but it ain't a lot when you start talking about like, well, 112:37 I said that to Matt Bell, if you know who Matt Bell is, he was like, that's nothing. 112:41 Well, of course to him it's nothing, but immediately the guy that has the money, the 250 grand fucking 112:45 put that on my shelf, framed that bitch. 112:48 Meanwhile, he kind of probably auctioned that. 112:50 It was a family it was afraid to, and honestly, that family had been holding it for like 112:53 500 years, and in all honesty, I bet they were afraid. 112:58 The way things go, I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was 113:01 some strong army that went on there, like you can either get paid for it or we take 113:06 Just like when the mob, do you want paid off for this or do you want beat on the head? 113:10 Right. 113:10 Right. 113:11 It's just, you wonder how much is lost. 113:14 Like the burning of the Library of Alexandria, all these different instances throughout history, 113:18 the burning of the codexes. 113:20 Just the stuff that's from Peru, this is a website that's got art from ancient Peru 113:25 for sale. 113:25 For sale. 113:26 Yeah. 113:26 There's tons of interesting stuff here. 113:29 Right. 113:29 The question is, how do you know if it's authentic? 113:32 That's a huge problem. 113:33 There's a lot of this stuff that's counterfeit. 113:36 Wow, that's dope. 113:37 Look at that mask. 113:38 It shows the provenance of it. 113:39 So this one came from an archeologist from 1938. 113:42 How much does that cost? 113:44 It says $3,500 or something, I think it says. 113:45 Should we get one? 113:46 $4,850. 113:48 How big is that? 113:49 I'm not buying one. 113:50 But would you get cursed? 113:51 No, it says $4,850 on something. 113:56 I better be able to drive it around or smoke it one. 113:58 Recent activity. 114:00 Egyptian bronze, Cobra. 114:01 Wow, somebody bought that for 2,000 bucks. Wow. Add to cart right now. Wow 114:08 Kind of sick. I was always from how old is it? 114:14 664 to 30 BCE 114:16 Providence ex-private New York City Egyptologist collection private New York City. Yeah, the Providence is weird on all these 114:23 It's coming there everything's coming from different places 114:24 Yeah, it's interesting because that's not that expensive for what it is. You got a piece of Egyptian history 114:30 Yeah, well the Providence thing is kind of a big deal if the Providence on them solid and it's after a certain date 114:35 You can't sell them. Show me what that image looks like. So how come you how come this person can sell this? 114:40 Yeah, because the Providence is gonna come before that date like that. They're gonna have been 114:46 Been found before that date. It's like legally acquired. Yes 114:50 So if it wasn't legally acquired, I bet they'd 114:53 They get you so the laws are probably much stricter now when they acquired it 114:57 Yeah, there's like it's kind of like assault rifles where there's like a time when you can that's okay to a bottom 115:02 But if you bought it after that date, you can't have it or like pre-ban ivory. Thank you. Yes, and kind of thing 115:08 It's like if you got that you've had this artifact on your family 115:10 We're not gonna go raiding the Rockefeller shelves, but you know the rest of you fuckers can't have any new ones 115:15 You get a gold wing deity pendant for 67 grand gold shaman. Yo 115:22 Damn son 115:24 bro that's the sickest what's that from and also looks he's got them I guess 115:30 we say monkey on top of his head like that too on the side yeah why does it 115:34 say price on a request maybe that's estimated here mm-hmm so when it says 115:41 gold standing shaman is that actual gold made out of gold there it is 89% 115:47 I didn't go. 115:48 What? 115:50 You can just buy that? 115:53 Well, look how dope he looks. 115:55 Look at the image on the side. 115:56 Go to the side view. 115:58 The other one? 116:00 That looks like it's made in China. 116:02 Well, it's hollow. 116:03 That's what I'm saying. 116:04 Yeah, that kind of has to be hollow. 116:05 Oh, there was a way 100 pounds. 116:07 Look at that. 116:08 What a sick-looking thing. 116:10 Show me the front-facing view again. 116:13 That is wild. 116:14 Wild, man. 116:15 And how old is this supposed to be fuck? That's cool 116:20 That would bring you good luck and put that on your desk 116:24 Monkey look 116:26 No, man. He's got some nipples. Oh, does he oh when I was looking at things hanging around. I hope he doesn't have trophy skulls 116:33 Could be yeah, looks like his hands looks like those are cups, but their faces 116:38 They look like the same as the heads up there. They do look like heads 116:42 Does he have two heads in his hands and he's got way more than five fingers? 116:45 Yeah, it's got seven. Yeah, maybe even eight if he's got a thumb again, you can meet that guy three heads of DMT 116:54 He's out there like you show me the the face forward version at the top. This one's been in Alabama for a while said 117:05 Crazy, I'm sorry. And how old is it again? That's how I was trying to look up 117:11 500 to 1520 either way that's nuts 117:17 That's pretty interesting hundred you could put it on a chain 117:21 Was a hundred and forty-eight grams 117:24 What's that in a pound? 117:32 Because we're all doing weed math now 117:34 I don't use an ounce, so it's not probably half a pound maybe. 117:38 We're doing weed math, okay. 117:39 What is 128 grams in pounds? 117:45 Yeah, 0.28 pounds, a quarter of a pound. 117:49 Wow, pretty sick. 117:51 That is cool. 117:52 Just makes you wonder, like, what were they trying to, 117:55 what is that? 117:56 What is that guy? 117:58 Is that a guy you see when you trip? 117:59 Cause it seems like it, especially he's all gold. 118:03 It seems like something you would see if you're tripping. 118:06 Yeah, a lot of that stuff, a lot of it gets really difficult for me because then I wonder 118:11 about like our iconography and it's like, you know, somebody could look at something 118:16 like that belt and be like, I wonder what the symbolism is behind that belt at the 118:19 end of the day. 118:20 It's like, no, no symbolism. 118:22 It's just, it looks cool. 118:23 Or a mascot for a team. 118:25 You know? 118:25 Exactly. 118:26 Why was everybody worshiping the Spuds McKenzie? 118:28 Right. 118:29 Right. 118:29 Right, right, right. 118:30 Why is everybody making the bull horns at the UT game? 118:32 Yeah, but some of these things, you know, 118:36 are clearly, you know, religious and spiritual, 118:40 and they stand a test of time. 118:41 Like, there's a lot of, the honoring of people 118:44 with deformations down there went for thousands of years. 118:48 I mean, this went from the Olmec all the way up 118:50 till the time that the Spaniards show up. 118:53 I think what's really fascinating is 118:55 there's so many things that point to South America. 118:58 So many things that point particularly to Peru so many things when you look at the 119:04 Megalithic architecture, especially the oldest stuff the weird crazy shapes 119:07 And then you also look at the elongated heads 119:10 and then you also look at the artwork that you know only see from the sky and 119:15 Like how many of these fucking things do you have to see before you went? 119:18 What was going on here? 119:20 You should look at some of the their textiles that they made in progress like I showed that little monkey thing 119:25 Those guys were so good. 119:27 If you don't mind pulling up a picture 119:29 of Paracas textiles, Jamie, they were so fucking amazing 119:31 that these like, when I first read about them, 119:34 I was like, meh, and then I looked at some pictures 119:36 and these are like, they're otherworldly. 119:38 These, to think that these things were being made 119:40 of over a thousand years ago, 2,000 years ago. 119:43 When you see them, they're a bunch of little people 119:48 with just the feathers pointed to one side 119:50 like they're in motion dancing and shit. 119:53 Like pick that like that one you're on right now. Jamie's a great one 119:58 No, the that yellow when you were hovering over the ones with the people look at that's a textile look at that shit 120:05 2000 years old look at fucking how beautiful that is. Oh well made that again 120:09 You can see that if you trip. Yeah, I guess very it's very trippy, right? It is very psychedelic looking 120:16 It's very psychedelic, but then you consider that that same culture was doing all these brain surgeries 120:21 They were doing the lines on the ground. You were talking about there are modifying skulls. They were building things 120:27 They were and they had people the artisans like this. This was a culture. This was a full-blown civilization that was 120:35 Above and beyond anything that we give them credit to it at this time. We look at yeah 120:39 Definitely DMT looking but also holy shit man. Look at how artistic that is 120:45 I know look at the little faces that are coming out of his whatever the fuck 120:48 That's what I put on his nose. 120:50 That boy's having a bad trip. 120:52 Just wild.
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