Chapter 2 of Miranda July’s All Fours is rather short. Which might have meant a short episode trying to figure out who is a parker and who is a driver or if it's all bullshit if it weren’t for that darn can of worms: what DOES happen to relationships and identities when a couple has a child? Amy & Tommy talk about transformative experiences, first dates, parenting, and standing ovations for a simple dinner of spaghetti and meatballs. Amy wants to make sure that you know that she LOVES being a mom despite the recurrent feeling of wading around in deep puddles of worry and failure. Perhaps, as one friend suggested, they are actually sparkly, over-the-knee boots that she's wearing to protect her from the worst of it. Read along or just enjoy the discussion! References in this episode: All Fours by Miranda July Transformative Experience by L.A. Paul Ray Wylie Hubbard Mother Blues How to Break Up with Your Phone Portland's DIY Bar Music: song: All I Got Off Bob Dylan artist: Muistardeaux Collective album: KTWE produced by: Sink Sandwich Records Subscribe to Work From Bed Friday so you won’t miss any of the episodes! Next week: Chapter 3! Send us a text Don't miss the good stuff! Click here to get on the list for our monthly newsletter (or subscribe directly on Substack ) which includes book reviews, date night ideas, and more juicy tidbits from the bed and beyond! Work From Bed Friday is a podcast hosted by Amy Hoffmann and Tommy Borden, a committed couple of 30+ years. Funny, spicy, and insightful, they discuss marriage, sex, and connection through the lens of contemporary books and media. Every Friday. From bed.