Don Matis, Jr. on What It Takes to Stay Sober 40 Years | Episode 503

Forty years sober sounds like a headline, but it’s actually thousands of small choices stacked on top of each other. We met up with Don Matis Jr. out at Hudson Springs Park on a bright day to celebrate a bright kind of win: four decades free from alcohol and drugs. Don doesn’t romanticize recovery. He talks about how sobriety is built minute by minute, how quickly “just one” can turn into a full relapse, and why staying alert matters even after 20 or 40 years. We also go deeper than the mile...