Under The Hoodie

Hosted by Bill Fowler, a veteran real estate tech strategist navigating AI adoption like his career depends on it—because it just might. He’s joined by Kurtis Cicalo, CEO of a thriving AI startup and one of the rare founders who can build the future while still asking the big “what does it mean?” questions. Together, they explore how AI is transforming the way we live and work across real estate and beyond. No hype. No fearmongering. Just honest, unscripted conversations about what’s exciting, what’s unsettling, and what’s next. If you feel late to the AI party, they’ve saved you a seat.