"...we also boast in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not disappoint us, because God’s love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit that has been given to us." ~ Romans 5:3-5 How are Christians supposed to respond to suffering? How do I know if I'm suffering well? How do I know whether I should avoid or accept a specific kind of suffering? In episode 71 of This Whole Life, hosts Kenna and Pat Millea are joined by their good friend, Fr. Nathan LaLiberte, to delve into the complex topic of suffering from both a faith-based and psychological perspective. They explore the idea that suffering is not just to be avoided but can be a path to personal growth, connection with God, and redemption. Fr. Nathan shares insights from his experience and studies, highlighting how pain can signal areas for growth and conversion. The conversation is grounded on the Christian ethos of finding purpose in suffering, and includes sound psychological principles like those of Alfred Adler and Viktor Frankl. They also discuss the Fruits of the Holy Spirit and the virtue of prudence as essential tools in discernment, helping listeners navigate when to accept suffering and when to seek change. Join them for a thought-provoking exploration of suffering in the pursuit of sanity and sanctity. Episode 71 Show Notes Chapters: 0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards 13:42: The meaning of suffering 21:24: What kind of a God allows suffering? 25:38: There is no growth or change without pain 35:16: Do I accept this suffering or ask for help? 45:07: The example of Chiara Corbella Petrillo 50:37: Challenge By Choice Reflections Questions: What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation? When have you experienced suffering in your life? What was that like for you? Has your suffering helped you to know Jesus better or has it challenged your faith? How has hardship helped you to grow, become stronger, and experience conversion? How do you discern whether to accept suffering in faith or to seek out resources to diminish the suffering? Send us a text. We can't respond directly, but we're excited to hear what's on your mind! Click here to register for the DBT group from Jan. 20 - March 24, 2026 (MN & WI residents only) Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com , and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas. Follow us on Instagram & Facebook Interested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for Integration Music: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller . Used with permission.
