"If in spite of everything God does not give them children, they should not regard themselves as being thwarted. They should be happy, discovering in this very fact God's will for them. ... There is, then, no reason for feeling they are failures or for giving way to sadness." ~ St. Josemaría Escrivá Is God present in infertility? How do I deal with the sadness & anger of losing a dream? When I feel like I don't fit in, what do I do? In this profoundly moving episode of This Whole Life , Kenna and Pat delve into the delicate and deep topic of infertility. They engage in heartfelt conversations with three couples who each share their unique and intimate journeys through infertility. Through candid stories of struggle, hope, and healing, the couples reveal how their experiences have shaped their relationships with one another and with God, how they navigate cultural expectations, and how they have developed emotional and mental resilience. This compelling episode sheds light on the realities of infertility, offering insights into how these couples have found support and love amidst their trials. Whether journeying through infertility or seeking to support those who are, you will discover profound lessons about life, love, and the reality of redemption in the midst of suffering. Episode 65 Show Notes Chapters: 0:00: Three couples' journey of infertility 13:50: How has infertility impacted your marriage? 18:13: How has infertility impacted your relationship with God? 23:28: How has this journey affected your emotions & mental health along the way? 36:17: Where have you found the most support & care? 43:28: What have you learned about life and love? 48:08: Witnessing generosity & openness up close Reflection Questions: What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation? What is your experience with infertility, in your own life or in a loved one? What is one time that a dream was lost? What did you feel, and how did you respond? What are some of the expectations put upon you by the culture or those in the Church? What do you do when you don't fit those expectations? How can you love & support those living with infertility? If you experience infertility, what do you need from others? Send us a text. We can't respond directly, but we're excited to hear what's on your mind! Click here to register for the DBT group from Jan. 20 - March 24, 2026 (MN & WI residents only) Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com , and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas. Follow us on Instagram & Facebook Interested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for Integration Music: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller . Used with permission.
