"I no longer call you slaves, because a slave does not know what his master is doing. I have called you friends, because I have told you everything I have heard from my Father." ~ John 15:15 Friendship is one of the highest experiences of human life, but it can also be the source of some of our greatest pains and struggles. Why do we desire deep and abiding friendship? Are all friendships the same? What does the Lord desire in our friendships, and which friends are best for us? In episode 51 of This Whole Life, Pat is again joined by guest Fr. Luke Marquard to delve into the complex and profound topic of holy friendships. They explore the various levels of friendship, the importance of deep connections, and the role of faith in nurturing meaningful relationships. Drawing from personal experiences and insightful reflections, they highlight the beauty of seeing others as gifts and the pursuit of heavenly glory within friendships. Fr. Luke shares valuable insights on the influence of virtue, intentionally seeking of like-minded individuals while allowing ourselves to be challenged and stretched by our friends. With heartfelt discussions on the challenges of loneliness, manipulation in relationships, and the importance of incorporating Christ as the center of it all, this episode offers invaluable guidance for listeners seeking to deepen their connections and appreciate the gift of true friendships. Fr. Luke Marquard is pastor of St. Joseph Catholic Church in West St. Paul, Minnesota. Episode 51 Show Notes Chapters: 0:00: Intro, Over/Under and Highs & Hards 16:19: Focus on Friendship 22:57: The Three Levels of Friendship 33:40: What does bad friendship look like? 40:06: The parish as a source of friendship 46:21: When it's hard to make good friends 58:19: Challenge By Choice Questions for Reflection & Discussion: What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation? Who are your best friends? What makes them so valuable to you? Can you identify people in your life at all three levels of friendship? What feelings or reflections do you have about the people at those levels? How might healthy recreation and solitude lead to better and deeper friendships? What is the Christian vision of friendship, and how is it distinct from a more worldly version of friendship? When has someone been a true friend to you, and how did it impact your life? Send us a text. We can't respond directly, but we're excited to hear what's on your mind! Click here to register for the DBT group from Jan. 20 - March 24, 2026 (MN & WI residents only) Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com , and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas. Follow us on Instagram & Facebook Interested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for Integration Music: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller . Used with permission.
