Today, Chuck is joined by Ben Hunt, the creator of Epsilon Theory. Their conversation revolves around the concept of the Widening Gyre, a “profound social equilibrium where bad people and bad ideas drive out good people and good ideas.” They discuss this concept from a few different angles: How it relates to top-down systems like America’s political systems and corporations. How it has led to the loss of a national narrative and increased division and conflict. How a community-based approach that focuses on doing the right thing today is the best way out. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Hear more from Ben Hunt: “ Ben Hunt: We're Not Going to Fix This from the Top Down ” (podcast). “ Ben Hunt: In Praise of Bitcoin ” (podcast). Ben Hunt (Twitter/X). Epsilon Theory (site). Chuck Marohn (Substack).
