Josh Bowman chats with Winston Brady of Thales Press and Thales Academy, along with Josh Herring of Thales College in North Carolina. We discuss the definition, style, future, purpose, and beauty of classical education, along with its relationship to place and the Ciceronian Society generally. Thales Academy: https://www.thalesacademy.org/ Thales Press: https://www.thalespress.org/ Thales College: https://www.thalescollege.org/ The 2026 Ciceronian Society Conference will be held March 12-14 at Creighton University in Omaha, NE. Panel and paper proposals are due September 1, 2025. To learn more about us, our events, this Podcast, our journal, Pietas, to sign up for our newsletter, and to make your tax deductible gift, please go to https://ciceroniansociety.org/ 0:00 Introduction 1:59 Why Thales 7:27 Founding 10:35 What is Classical Education 18:01 Curriculum & Press 26:22 College & Certificate 33:34 Out of Higher Ed 44:43 Place 55:56 Looking Ahead 1:09:24 Ciceronian Crossover 1:16:59 To Learn More about Thales Chapters (00:00:00) - Introduction (00:01:59) - Why Thales (00:07:27) - Founding (00:10:35) - What is Classical Education (00:18:01) - Curriculum & Press (00:26:22) - College & Certificate (00:33:34) - Out of Higher Ed (00:44:43) - Place (00:55:56) - Looking Ahead (01:09:24) - Ciceronian Crossover (01:16:59) - To Learn More about Thales