The Second Act with Michael and John

What actually drives someone to walk away from a conventional path and start over? In this podcast, Michael and John pull back the curtain with executives, founders, operators and veterans who have lived it. No PR scripts or polished highlight reels. Just an insider’s look into the pivotal moments, the mentors who left a mark, and the raw turning points that reshaped how our guests think, act, and choose to build something new. Whether you're launching your first move or staging a complete reinvention, this is your blueprint.