Sam Bendix, Partner at Chicago Pacific Founders, returns to share his framework for capital raising using motivational interviewing. He explains how it uncovers real motivations and qualifies prospects faster—without a hard sell. We cover how it applies to investor meetings, deal sourcing, hiring, and beyond. A practical framework for better conversations and better results. [00:00] Sam Bendix, Partner at Chicago Pacific Founders, shares his capital-raising framework using motivational interviewing. [00:28] Alex praises its use in candidate interviews, prospecting, and deal origination. [00:58] Framework inspired by Sam’s wife, a dietitian, helping patients change behavior. [01:53] Sam realized it draws out investor motivations instead of pushing a pitch. [02:51] Ideal for hesitant prospects or those juggling priorities. [04:13] Helps quickly qualify whether someone’s worth pursuing. [05:37] Sam uses it on intro calls with LPs at the contemplation stage. [06:33] It’s flexible — works even outside of work. [08:30] Four stages: Engage, Focus, Evoke, Plan. [10:15] Key question: "What led you to take this meeting?" [12:09] Use “change talk” to uncover real motivations. [13:59] Always leave with clear next steps. [15:50] Similar to AIDA — build rapport, qualify, find the why, plan action. [17:15] Real-life case study: reframed a real estate pitch to win infrastructure LP interest. [22:28] Even a "no" reveals future opportunities. [25:22] ORS method (Open questions, Reflective listening, Summarizing) is critical. [27:17] Reflect objections back to build clarity and trust. [28:13] Alex draws parallels with talent assessment — most firms hire for now, not the full journey. [30:40] Exceptional execs have frameworks. If they can't articulate their playbook, you can’t scale them. [32:07] Too many firms wing it with clients while being structured with candidates — both need frameworks. [34:29] Sam praises Alex’s consultative approach to hiring — problem-finding > solution-pushing. [36:55] Knowing the why behind hiring helps tailor the search to real business needs. [39:47] Ideally, firms would hire 3 execs per hold period — one for each phase. Instead, you need one who can run the full race. [43:10] Negotiation tips: frame your goals around the LP’s goals. [45:35] Use three steps: Reflect objections, Reframe as shared objectives, Confirm buy-in. [48:27] Book recs: Negotiation Genius (Harvard), Start with No (Jim Camp), and Quit (Annie Duke). Sam’s open to connecting on LinkedIn . Subscribe for more episodes on iTunes & Spotify Got feedback or questions? Email Alex at
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