We've all been waiting for YEARS for this… more power to the plebs! Yes, you heard us correctly. For once, the patricians will not get exactly what they want. Episode 145 – Power to the Plebs Icilii, Icilii, Icilii It is 409 BCE and another exciting year in the conflict of the orders (allegedly). The plebeians were enraged when elections were held for consuls instead of military tribunes with consular power. The plebeians decided to channel the advice of the First Wives Club. Don't get mad, get everything! Denied the chance to elect their hero from the previous year, the plebeians rallied together and secured THREE plebeian quaestorship. The quaestorship had technically been open to plebeians since 420 BCE. However, it took a decade for the plebeians to finally take the plunge. They were assisted by several tribunes of the plebs from the Icilii family. The Icilii often appear when something important happens for plebeian rights. Don't you just love the grand narrative of Roman history? Hungry for more, the plebeians decided to push for elections of military tribunes with consular elections. They were determined to elect a plebeian candidate in 408 BCE. The patricians were already aghast at the prospect of plebeian quaestors, so they were hardly going to let that happen. Once again, we find ourselves in a stalemate, with neither the patricians or the plebeians willing to back down. Join us for another action-packed episode! Things to Look Out For: Tribune of the plebs in trench coats and sunglasses Way too many Icilii running around Rome Dr Rad’s phone alarm going off and her not hearing it because, you know, she’s deaf. Really sorry about that, guys! Patricians fantasising about world apocalypse More military action at the mysterious Carventum Need to catch up on 411 and 410 BCE? Check out Episode 144 – Where in the World is Carventum? Our Players 409 BCE Consuls Cn. Cornelius A. F. M. m. Cossus (Pat) Mil. Tr. c.p. 414 L. Furius (L. f. Sp. n.?) Medullinus (Pat.) Cos. 413 Tribune of the Plebs (L.?) Icilius ? Icilius ? Icilius Quaestors P. Aelius K. Fabius Ambustus (Pat.) P. Papius Q. Silius Our Sources Dr G reads the Fasti Capitolini and Diodorus Siculus 13.80.1. Dr Rad reads Livy ab Urbe Condita 4.54-55. Broughton, T. R. S., Patterson, M. L. 1951. The Magistrates of the Roman Republic Volume 1: 509 B.C. – 100 B.C. (The American Philological Association) Cornell, T. J. 1995. The Beginnings of Rome: Italy and Rome from the Bronze Age to the Punic Wars (c. 1000-264 BC) (Taylor & Francis) Forsythe, G. 2006. A Critical History of Early Rome: From Prehistory to the First Punic War (University of California Press) Lomas, Kathryn (2018). The rise of Rome. History of the Ancient World. Cambridge: Harvard University Press. doi : 10.4159/9780674919938 . ISBN 978-0-674-65965-0 . S2CID 239349186 . Ogilvie, R. M. 1965. A Commentary on Livy: Books 1-5 (Clarendon Press). Sound Credits Our music was composed by Bettina Joy de Guzman . Sound effects courtesy of BBC, Pixabay and Fesliyan Studios. Automated Transcript. Courtesy of Otter AI. Dr Rad 00:12 Welcome to the partial historians. We explore all the details of ancient Rome. Everything from political scandals to love affairs, the battles waged, and when citizens turn against each other. I'm Dr. Rad. And I'm Dr. G. We consider Rome as the Roman saw it by reading different ancient authors and comparing their accounts. Join us as we trace the journey of Rome from the Hello, and welcome to another episode of the partial historians. I am one of your hosts, Dr. Rad,. Dr G 01:04 and I am your other host, Dr. G. Hey, Dr Rad 01:08 Hey, Dr. G. Welcome to a history of Rome that's being told in excruciatingly painful detail, Dr G 01:17 Just as the Romans would have liked it, I think. Dr Rad 01:19 Exactly. I mean, we're just fulfilling their wishes. Dr G 01:22 Yeah. Their fame lives on as long as we talk about them. Dr Rad 01:26 That is correct. So Dr G, last episode we were dealing with 410 BC. Today we're going to be dealing with 409, it all makes chronological sense. Dr G 01:40 Yeah, it looks so far. So good. I do not quibble at all with that logic. And 410 was an interesting year because we got introduced to a new location that we hadn't heard of before. Called Carventum. Ah, yes, we still aren't entirely sure where it is, the mystery remains. But we do think it might be part of a important strategic location that sort of forms the edge of Roman territory and Hernitian territory. And obviously, the Volscians and the Aequians want to get their little dirty paws all over it. Dr Rad 02:19 Like they do everything. Indeed, Dr G 02:22 Indeed, that's just the way those guys Dr Rad 02:24 Oh, I know, don't they knew that Rome is destined to be the superpower in this corner of the world. Dr G 02:29 Not yet. Not yet. 02:33 So what we had last time was some classic conflict of the order stuff, I think, hmm, yeah. So we had our command commander called Valerius, who ende
