Show full transcript 0:31 It's one of the best ones I fall for sure. 0:33 But I just marvel at the fact that you're constantly able to create content like these non sequitur very bizarre facts and 0:42 strange coincidences 0:44 Like how the fuck are you doing this dude? 0:47 I read so much and I'm a pretty quick reader like I've always been very fast like a good skimmer and 0:54 Yeah, I just like all day every day. That's all I do so you read and then you you go 1:00 oh that one's crazy and you just write it down? Yeah so like whatever I'm reading 1:05 like say I'm reading a book on like Ben Franklin I'll anything that comes up I'm 1:10 like oh that's pretty interesting I don't think a lot of people know about that 1:12 highlight and then I go through peace all together check and make sure it's 1:17 all you know real and yeah and then dive into other things off of that like 1:23 kind of spider web out and go down rabbit holes I'm in a perpetual rabbit 1:27 at all. 1:28 Constantly. 1:29 All day, every day, rabbit holes. 1:31 What is that like? 1:32 It can get weird. 1:34 Yeah, I mean, there's some times where I'm like, ooh, 1:36 I hope, you know, I hope the FBI's enjoying 1:39 what they're seeing, because good Lord, 1:42 like I didn't want to be here today, 1:43 but yeah, it can get a little odd, yeah. 1:46 Yeah, because you're constantly like researching crimes. 1:50 Oh yeah, murders, weird things 1:54 that have been done to people over time. 1:56 Speaking, you know the Debbie Harry story. 1:58 Well, that she thinks may have happened. 2:01 I don't know if I buy it. 2:02 Really? 2:03 Tell people what it is. 2:04 Okay, so. 2:04 The Ted Bundy one. 2:05 So yeah, so Debbie Harry believes that sometime 2:08 in the early 70s or late 60s that she was picked up 2:12 by a man driving a Volkswagen Beetle 2:15 and that that car didn't have indoor handles 2:18 and she escaped and she believes that it was Ted Bundy. 2:21 But if you look it up like on a timeline of events, 2:25 He was not anywhere around there at that time so it could just be another guy doing creepy things 2:31 Yeah, when there's one there's many, you know, yeah, I'm sure that's not the first time a guy's 2:36 Figured out a way to close off the handles in the inside of his car. It won't be the last trap people. Yeah, I'm working on it right now 2:43 Ah, I watched a video today where this young man in India robbed a guy with scopolamine 2:52 What the hell's that okay? I'm so glad I get to tell you something that you don't know 2:56 Oh, yeah, I don't if it's science related or anything like that 2:59 I'm well, and I know it's crime related as well 3:02 Skopalamine is a drug that is I guess it's in the class of delirium 3:09 And if if inhaled you literally become like a prisoner to whoever gave you the drug 3:17 like you you become like a zombie yeah it is like a zombie drug not only is it 3:23 real but it's also the active ingredient in anti-sea sickness medication so when 3:30 you take Dramamine I'm the captain now Dramamine haha look at me that's what 3:37 he was there and they blew it right in Hank's face scopolamine is the one of the 3:42 ingredients in drama mean oh 3:44 So I don't know I guess it's a very small dose, but in a larger dose. So this guy 3:50 This young guy came up behind this guy in India 3:54 And he put it on his neck and the guy touches his neck 3:57 And then all of a sudden he just keeps touching his neck and the guy just takes his bag off of him takes his 4:03 Wallet out of his pocket takes his phone out of his other pocket walks off and the guys just stand there just helpless 4:10 lost and helpless. 4:12 That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard. 4:13 Yeah, it's like. 4:14 That's so great. 4:15 God. 4:15 What do they refer to it as? 4:17 There's a. 4:18 Devil's breath. 4:19 Devil's breath. 4:20 That's right. 4:20 In Columbia, the drug dealers use it 4:23 to force people to do things. 4:25 Yeah, okay. 4:26 They blow it in their face. 4:28 And when they inhale it, 4:30 it's like they literally just come up to you. 4:32 All right. 4:32 Where have I seen that in a movie? 4:35 There was a zombie movie a long time ago. 4:39 Serpent in the rainbow, that's right. Oh, yeah, great movie. Yeah, I'm so glad we just brought that up 4:45 I forgot about that movie. Yeah, Serpent in the rainbows. Oh my I used to watch that all the time. Yeah 4:48 Well, they think that that might be a part of the whole zombie lore that's go Paul. Yes, okay 4:57 Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, it's apparently like see if there's any 5:05 videos of people getting dosed with skull polyamine because this guy didn't 5:10 know that people did it to rob people and this guy in India he just like touched 5:16 some of it on this guy's neck right he was standing behind him and he was 5:20 looking at the guy's bag and you know looking the guy over the guys waiting 5:23 across the street and he just reaches and touches the side of his neck with it 5:28 so it's potent as hell potent as hell man well he didn't go unconscious 5:33 Yeah, he immediately was just like what the hell and then it's just like just just delirious 5:38 Just just moving around weird. The guy just took a shit. What do worry about that? 5:43 It's a good question. Hmm. Maybe you shouldn't search that either 5:50 Yeah motion sixes, but like how many patches you have to take before someone could just steal your wallet 5:55 You have to like mummify. I'm just right. I know right. What do you have to do this for mummies? Yeah? 6:00 I uh 6:02 Is there any videos all the videos? I'm talking on YouTube are literally a little like 6:07 the patches and like people 6:10 Putting them on their neck. There is a vice documentary from 14 years ago. Mm-hmm 6:15 But 14 years ago vice was the shit. Oh man. Did you ever watch? 6:20 the cannibal warlords of 6:23 Like Liberia yeah about general but naked. Yeah 6:27 Oh my god, that's I've recommended that probably more than I've ever recommended anything in my life 6:32 It's so terrifying that they did yeah, and that that guy just 6:36 Became a preacher and all is forgiven. He was eating kids. Yeah eating their hearts 6:41 Yeah, well saving the heart because cutting it right out of their chest while they're alive and then eating their heart 6:48 I mean and then he found Jesus and I was forgiven. Yeah, well, I guess that is you know what it says in there 6:53 What a great place to live though in terms of like actual real forgiveness very few places give you that kind of leeway 7:00 Yeah, oh you found Jesus 7:02 But didn't he get he caught a guy serving human meat? 7:05 Yes, like a guy was serving it like on a stick, you know he was a preacher right right? 7:10 He tasted it. It was like uh-oh. I know this taste. Yeah, I'm bored of them. Yeah, and it was true 7:15 Yeah, I was killing people and just you know turning them into like a lunch cow on a skibob 7:20 Yeah, Liberia is a fucked up place. So, do you know the story of Liberia? 7:26 About, like, James Monroe? Or is that Liberia or is that Libya? 7:29 No, Liberia. Liberia was like a colony that was going to be, you know, like, 7:33 take basically all slaves back to this spot. Exactly. And that's why the 7:37 capital is Monrovia, because it's named after James Monroe, the president. 7:41 Yeah. So, I mean, it was literally founded with chaos. 7:45 Yeah. 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Yeah, normally you just use the machete 10:44 Yeah, I don't think it would have the same effect if I did that 10:47 But naked yeah, the machete. I don't run is well. That's probably true. Actually. I'd probably be even more effective than now 10:54 It's a lot of a lot of fear 10:57 A lot of fear coming off of you. 10:58 A lot of meat. 10:59 A lot of meat. 11:01 A lot of meat. 11:01 AK-47. 11:03 Not a lot of speed though. 11:04 Not a lot of speed. 11:05 Actually, I'm faster than you would imagine. 11:07 A lot of momentum. 11:08 A lot of mass. 11:08 Oh yeah, once I start, I can't always stop. 11:13 I mean, no, I'm faster than you think, you know, all jokes aside. 11:15 Do you run? 11:17 Well, if I have to. 11:18 But how do you know then? 11:20 Well, it's the last time you had to run away from something. 11:22 So you know how, like, when you're not running, you're not moving, you're 11:25 storing energy okay you know like there's kinetic energy and potential energy 11:30 wait this is all I know about science really is about when you're not moving 11:33 you're storing energy well of course like if you're napping well yeah because if 11:37 you're doing something you're expelling energy right so there must be storing 11:41 some whenever you're doing nothing like if I eat and do nothing I'm building 11:45 up energy it's ready to go well I've been doing that for about 15 years so 11:50 the amount of energy I have stored up is probably second to none. 11:55 I don't think that would work in a study. 11:59 I think if you did a study, I think they'd probably have some other explanations as to 12:03 what's happening when you just hit still. 12:05 I paid the right person. 12:06 The results I wanted. 12:07 That's true. 12:08 That's what's crazy. 12:09 I know. 12:10 When you find out that we had one of these guys that was on our podcast that was a 12:16 litigator for these lawsuits against pharmaceutical drug companies and is 12:22 explaining how pharmaceutical drug companies do their peer-reviewed studies. 12:27 Oh, I'm sure that's it. 12:28 Oh, it's so crazy. So first of all, there's no transparency. So like say if you 12:33 have a drug that you want to release, you could do ten studies and eight of 12:38 them show this is complete bullshit. But one or two of them show just some 12:43 sort of statistically significant improvement in something because you've kind of manipulated 12:49 all the different controls in the study to make it, then you get, once you have this, 12:57 if it's peer reviewed, the scientists do not get to look at the actual data. 13:03 They get to look at the pharmaceutical drug company's scientists' version of what the 13:10 study was. 13:11 Okay, so they only get to use what they're like so if they have scientists that perform this study 13:18 Then these scientists submit a report and then that report gets reviewed by peer it gets peer reviewed not the actual data 13:26 Okay, so like no one ever gets to see the actual study 13:30 So that's one of the reasons that they could say crazy things like it's a hundred percent effective 13:35 In stopping death and illness. So when they say it's a hundred percent effective, you know how they say that? 13:42 So if you have one person in the control group or two one person in the vaccine group or the medication group and 13:50 That person dies and then you have a control group where two people die 13:55 Well a hundred percent more died in the control group where they didn't get the medication 14:02 Right, so that means it's a hundred percent effective. I'm not bullshitting. Oh 14:07 boy, that's a isn't that why you gotta have a 14:11 To reach that kind of 14:14 Sociopathy, that's amazing. That's sociopathy at a 14:17 Well, you're delivering medication that could potentially kill people and that's how you get things like viox. Yeah, see that's the job 14:25 I need because I'm very good at that kind of thing 14:32 I mean, I've been hired at every job I've ever applied to was zero experience in that field. 14:40 And so, and it was just because I lied. 14:42 Really? 14:43 Yeah. 14:43 Well, like, what kind of jobs have you had? 14:45 Oh, it's nothing crazy. 14:46 I've never been like a doctor or anything, but I mean, it was, you know, working like 14:49 at an eyeglass place or, you know, or a movie theater, you know, like, hey, I've 14:53 worked at movie theaters for years, so I've never, no, I just lie. 14:56 And well a movie theater. No one's gonna get hurt. Well, that's what I know 15:00 I've never worked in a position where people I did work in a pharmacy 15:02 I guess that could get people hurt, but did you say you had a degree? 15:06 No, I said I was on my way of get to getting one which I guess technically is true if I were I mean anything tomorrow 15:12 You're on my way if you know, I'm gonna be just having started thinking about how does this happen when the CIA guy 15:19 That stole all that money. How does he lie about his past to get through the CIA to a 15:25 A point where he can then lie about a fake operation where he steals a hundred and fifty million dollars 15:32 So he faked a college degree and he faked his military service and got into the CIA and was a senior CIA official how 15:42 Well, they didn't check 15:46 No, he just didn't keep a straight face. I mean straight face. That's all you gotta do that guy 15:52 That guy's wild. What a wild fella. He must have been yeah, that's please tell me some cocaine involved in here somewhere 15:58 Oh, they're has he's got luxury watches 35 luxury walk to BMWs your answer to the game question 16:04 Private charter flights. He spent 1.8 million. Whoo. Oh, yeah luxury Florida real estate 16:10 Palm Beach, but also he's just got caught. There's no way he just came up with this out of a vacuum 16:15 And just like I got an idea. I can take advantage of the CIA in this cool way, right? 16:19 I feel like I can do well. There's no way. He's the only one. That's what I mean. Yeah, like yeah 16:24 That's where those all those stories about like the the dude from the Tom Cruise movie with the fuck's his name again 16:31 Georgia, no the coke dealer. Oh, thank you Barry's American. Meena. Is that yes? 16:37 The Mina Arkansas story. Yes, this guy was working for the CIA going down to Columbia getting cocaine flying it into Mina, Arkansas 16:45 dropping it off and 16:48 And you know, he got busted with it and then Bill Clinton had him released. 16:54 That's in the movie. 16:55 Well, I mean, yeah. 16:56 Yeah. 16:56 Yeah, I think that was his M.O. going to bed. 16:59 Well, I think the CIA and I think probably a lot of the big government organizations, 17:05 is this the guy's gold? 17:06 This is the gold and the cash he had at the time. 17:08 He had the three million in cash and 40 million in gold bars or so. 17:12 It looks fake. 17:13 Like it just looks like a movie. 17:14 It looks like a prop. 17:15 Yeah. 17:16 Well, it's also like the perfect box. 17:18 Those might be like is that how they found it or is this like how the government story 17:22 I stored it and then took a picture of it cuz those look like you know government pelican boxes 17:27 I mean, maybe it was the ones he bought cuz I don't know I feel like if I had yeah 17:31 They probably stored pretty nicely, right? I'd have like LED lights around it and take off all my clothes and dance in front of it 17:39 Those could be ones and they're not still do that 17:42 You know pull fiction. Yeah 17:44 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That gold light. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 17:49 30 watches, many of which were Rolexes. 17:52 Well, congrats. There's a plug for Rolexes. 17:54 Two 2026 BMW Alpinas. Those are the really nice ones. 17:59 Woo. He's scheduled to be sentenced January 28th, 2027, 18:04 faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison, 18:07 three years of supervised release, forfeiture, 18:10 restitution, and a fine. A fine. 18:12 Yeah. 18:13 Meanwhile, they should probably rehire him and go, hey, buddy, how'd you do this? 18:17 I feel like that's worth it, 20 years to get to live that life. 18:21 Oh, he probably had a ball. 18:22 I wonder how long he was doing it for. 18:25 No, I didn't really say that, did it? 18:27 I mean, even if it was like 10 years, you know, 10 years of awesomeness versus 20 18:32 years of prison, I feel like is a good fair trade. 18:35 He probably would have never gotten that awesomeness without that crime. 18:38 So you got it and then like maybe he goes to like a fairly I mean it's not like he did violent crimes 18:44 He's probably not gonna go to the worst kind of prison. No, no, no, no, no not gonna go to a super max 18:49 They'll probably put in some medium security where he gets to read and go do exercises 18:55 He could take courses the Martha Stewart person. Yeah, yeah, or the fucking Glenn Maxwell prison. Oh, yeah 19:01 She's kind of in the same prison, right? Yeah, that's probably yeah end of somewhere like that 19:06 I think I would do it isn't she in the same prison as that Elizabeth Holmes lady 19:11 This yes, she's in the area. I can't wait a sex trafficker 19:17 Lady who lied about blood tests 19:19 I haven't seen the documentary. It's not out yet, right? I don't think 19:24 Okay, who I cannot wait bro. He's great. Oh, he's actually he's excellent 19:29 He's amazing, which I didn't really know about him until like pretty recently 19:32 So I've been doing like kind of a you know deep dive and just as all you know stuff like on the show and it is 19:38 He's amazing. He's hilarious and just so clever way the way. He's holding her his gaze 19:45 With her in that that that little clip is just her face is just wild 19:51 You gotta just you know like we all have empathy for people like shit. I mean, I don't think she killed anybody 19:58 So the thing is, here's the problem. 20:01 When you're dealing with health stuff 20:03 and you're lying about health tests, 20:06 you could have killed people 20:07 because there could have been a guy who had a condition 20:10 and the condition was not revealed 20:12 by your phagasy blood test. 20:14 And if he had gone to a real doctor, 20:15 like a quest diagnostics and get the whole thing done, 20:18 they would have said, oh geez, we have to get you in 20:20 and we have to do some further tests. 20:22 Oh, it looks like this is elevated. 20:24 We have some medication. 20:25 You're gonna be okay. 20:25 There could be some people that took those tests that wound up not knowing about cancer 20:33 that they had. 20:34 There could have been a bunch of things where people actually did die, so I take that back. 20:38 But trade-off, she also could have told people that they had a bad disease, horrible disease, 20:44 and then they are in deep despair. 20:46 They go to get a follow-up and find out they never had it, and now they have a 20:49 new lease on life. 20:50 All right. 20:51 Let's talk about AG-1 Pro for a second, because it's one of the smartest things 20:54 you can add to your routine. 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I it's like yeah, or like Dan Carlin's hardcore history 22:24 He takes months to prepare for each episode. I'm we're barely doing the same thing. I'm not really 22:30 They should have a much more elegant name to whatever it is that they do but they had one 22:36 I think it's called the dropout and 22:38 And I forget who produced it, but it's all about the Elizabeth Holm story from the beginning of set there knows to her 22:47 Scammy ex-boyfriend who was also the dropout ABC audio. It's excellent. It's I can't recommend it enough 22:54 It's fucking really good, and it just goes into 22:59 Long detail about what was going on and how much they knew it was bullshit, right? It's it was 23:07 Bullshit like oh, yeah, people weren't learning anything about what was wrong with them. It didn't work and they they got people 23:14 Big investors. I think Warren Buffett 23:17 He might have dumped a hundred million in there. Oh, they're like these people's dump big money in 23:23 One lady dumped a hundred and fifty in there 23:27 150 million. Yeah, and that money's gone, you know, it's like that lady when she gets out her life is in danger 23:33 You know, she's she's fucked. Oh, I would do horrible things to people for far less 23:40 150 million and you find out the problem is it's like it seemed like such a great story 23:47 You have this woman who's a super genius basically the female Steve Jobs 23:51 She even dresses like him and she is the most successful self-made woman in history 23:59 Yeah. She was worth nine billion dollars at one point in time. If only. Crazy. Yeah. It's crazy 24:07 story. It is amazing. I mean just what a horrible human being. But it's also just like Jamie said 24:11 like how did it get that far? Like Jamie said with the CIA guy how the fuck did you fake all 24:17 those things? How did you fake your military career? How do they not check that? I feel like 24:24 oversight is a much more prevalent than what you know people think you know or 24:29 just lack of lack of oversight yeah is is you know people usually aren't very 24:34 good at the jobs just in general like it you know anytime you work with someone 24:37 you realize oh none of us know what we're doing here and I think that 24:40 doesn't stop at a certain level I think most people are just barely able to do 24:45 their job especially in government oh and very government I mean yeah Lord that's 24:50 the problem is a lot of these jobs don't need to exist that's one of the weird 24:56 statistics about California when California is experiencing it's this 25:00 mass exodus its government grew substantially substantially so they're 25:07 creating jobs like when they talk about this administration has created over a 25:12 hundred thousand jobs they don't tell you how many of those are completely 25:15 unnecessary government jobs and so to justify those government jobs they 25:20 have to do all kinds of crazy things like come up with new regulations and 25:24 constantly like trying to enforce new laws and tell you it's to protect clean 25:28 air or clean water or the environment or climate change yeah yeah no if you can 25:35 make your own jobs I mean you can have an endless supply of jobs sure if you 25:39 are running a government and you decide to regulate some particular aspect of 25:44 society and then hire a bunch of people to oversee that then you 25:48 You have new jobs. 25:49 You have an entire committee. 25:51 And everybody in that committee has their, you know, personal, it's just a pyramid scheme. 25:54 Exactly. 25:55 Which really is, it's like multi-level marketing, but the thing you're selling is even more 25:59 bullshitty than what most MLMs are selling. 26:02 Well it's even scarier because a lot of these bullshitty things, they sell it to the 26:07 general public under the guise, under this premise that you're going to help people 26:10 who are in need, like the homeless situation in California where they've burned through 26:15 $24 billion and Gavin Newsom vetoes an audit of it, because what they'll find out is that 26:24 money probably went to a bunch of nonprofits and probably went to a bunch of NGOs, and there 26:29 was probably a bunch of people that were executives that got paid high six-figure salaries 26:34 working there, and they have no incentive whatsoever to fix this problem. 26:40 You got a nice house in Santa Monica, you got a mortgage, you're driving around 26:45 and Alexis, why would you fix that? 26:48 No, people who don't police themselves, typically. 26:51 Once they get to a certain level, 26:52 I think the average person does. 26:54 They choose to maybe drive the speed limit, 26:57 even if there's not a cop around or whatever. 26:59 But I think once you get to a certain level 27:00 when there's that much money involved, 27:02 yeah, you'll usually just kind of do 27:03 whatever the hell you want. 27:04 Especially if you're in government. 27:06 Yeah, or you're in the CIA. 27:07 Or you're the guy that is gonna stop you. 27:10 Yeah. 27:10 So like, oh, you mean I'm the guy 27:12 who's supposed to bust me? 27:13 I don't think so like and you're literally like you're part of the intelligence agency and you've got a closet in your house filled with 27:22 Gold and hundred dollar bills and cocaine. That'd be you've got 30 Rolex. Yeah 27:28 You're falling out of control. Yeah, I'm not slowing that down. Well, he's low down. Oh, no 27:34 They probably feel like okay. I'm gonna make one big score and then I'm gonna get out 27:39 yeah oh that's yeah yeah it's heat yeah this is our last one you know Michael 27:45 Douglas was in here yesterday I heard it was great and one of his crazy stories 27:50 was his dad you know when he turned 18 his dad basically said look I'm gonna 27:56 write you a check for $10,000 and then that's it you're cut off and so the way 28:00 he fun and he was like but I have a I have student loans I have this so the 28:04 The way he funded his education is he was smuggling marijuana, like huge suitcases, 28:12 and this is pre-TSA. 28:13 Yeah, yeah. 28:13 So he's literally like coming into the country with suitcases filled with marijuana. 28:18 And he only did it twice. 28:20 He did it twice. 28:21 How did you do it just twice? 28:23 That's what I said. 28:24 I'm like, what willpower you have? 28:26 But he said... 28:27 It is a lot, yeah. 28:27 He goes, it was so crazy and so nerve-wracking, it was so much adrenaline and worried about 28:32 getting caught, but he made a bunch of money, and that's how he financed everything. 28:36 That's amazing. 28:37 He produced, didn't he produce One Flew of the Cuckoo's Nest? 28:39 He did, with Creedence Clearwater Revival's money. 28:42 So the manager of John Fogarty, John Fogarty talked about it on the podcast. 28:48 That guy was a scumbag, and he was like stealing his money. 28:50 Yeah, he sued him for sounding too much like himself. 28:52 It was amazing. 28:54 So he said, John Fogarty, you sound too much like John Fogarty. 28:56 When he left Creedence and started his own band, it was like, you sound too 29:00 much like Creedence. 29:01 It's like, bitch, I wrote all the songs, like, you want from me. 29:04 Of course I do. 29:05 You want me to make a reggae album? 29:06 I mean, yeah. 29:06 Yeah. 29:07 So Creedence Clearwater Revival's Money financed one flu over the Cuckoo's Nest. 29:13 That's amazing. 29:14 Yeah. 29:14 I did not know the CCR connection. 29:15 I knew that he produced it. 29:17 Because I remember watching one flu over the Cuckoo's Nest, I was like, well, how 29:19 does Michael Douglas' name on this? 29:21 And he's not even in it. 29:22 And then I was like, oh, yeah, he wasn't even really an actor at that point. 29:25 He was trying to act and what was going on was that his father had acquired the 29:30 rights to the book. 29:30 Yeah from Ken Keezy. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So Ken Keezy from the Kool-Aid acid test from you know the whole Timothy Leary 29:39 Dropout all that jazz discovering the Grateful Dead. Yeah all those people so so he writes the book and then 29:46 They're trying to get it made they can't get it made and then Michael Douglas says give me a shot at this 29:52 I think I get he just becomes a thrall with the project 29:55 quits his job on streets of San Francisco, which is a hugely popular television show 30:00 So here's this guy is a television actor and at the same time he wins an Academy Award for producing a film 30:08 That's so crazy crazy. It's right up your alley. Yeah, I mean your type of oh, I love anything like that 30:14 I mean, yeah, yeah 30:16 It's like a Mel Brooks produced the elephant man and he wanted 30:19 His name taken off the critics is he didn't want people think it was a comedy. He did 30:23 Yeah, so yeah, like the elephant with John Hurt and yeah, then the Hopkins 30:27 Yeah, he produced it because he just loved the story of you know, John was a John Merrick. I think is his name 30:32 Yeah, yeah, I just loved his story and wanted to have a movie have the movie made wow 30:38 He's like God, I mean if my name's at the beginning of this Mel Brooks presents the elephant man 30:43 People are gonna think it's like, you know making fun of him right right, right? Yeah, he can't yeah 30:48 But he still wanted to do it and did it that's cool. That's cool that he did that and it took his name off it 30:54 Yeah, it's one of my favorite movies. 30:55 Paul Tom loves that movie. 30:57 It's a great movie. 30:58 What movie do you think you've seen the most? 31:00 If you had to guess. 31:01 Unfortunately, John Wick. 31:03 Oh. 31:03 Oh, okay. 31:05 I watch it when I work out sometimes. 31:07 It's great motivation. 31:08 Oh, okay. 31:09 It's a good revenge movie. 31:10 Yeah. 31:10 You know, it gets you hyped. 31:11 Yeah, yeah. 31:12 No, that's a good one. 31:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 31:14 Okay. 31:15 Just curious. 31:16 Yeah, but it's not like, I don't think it's the best movie ever. 31:19 What do you think is the best movie ever? 31:20 or like if an alien came down and was like, 31:25 I want to see one movie to know what y'all are about. 31:30 You know, I don't think I have a favorite movie, 31:33 but one of the movies that I've seen, 31:35 a modern movie that I've seen multiple times is Ex Machina. 31:41 Because I feel like that is, 31:45 I think that's the future. 31:47 I really do. 31:48 I feel like a version of that is in our future. 31:53 And this is a film that came out, 31:55 was X Machina like 2017, 18? 31:59 I was early on that at like 11. 32:00 Was it? 32:01 2011, 2013 maybe? 32:03 2014. 32:04 2014, yeah. 32:05 So when that film came out, 32:06 I remember very distinctly going, 32:09 oh my God, like this is gonna happen. 32:12 Like this is not science fiction. 32:14 This is just, they're just predicting the future. 32:17 Yeah, yeah 32:22 Okay, okay. Oh, well at least in America first was not an American film as I mean it's in English 32:28 But it's 2014 here, and then yeah, it says USA 2015 32:33 So it just it just was released probably in can or something at the end of the year something, right? 32:38 Yeah, cuz in can't you know, they'll release it during that film festival and technically it'll be a 32:42 A phenomenal, phenomenal fucking movie. 32:46 It's so good. 32:47 Yeah, she's amazing. 32:49 She's incredible. 32:50 She's incredible. 32:51 And you love her. 32:52 You love her, and she's a robot. 32:54 And the spoiler alert, the heartless way 32:57 that she leaves that guy trapped in that room 33:01 to starve to death, it's just like, whoa. 33:04 Like, has nothing. 33:06 There's nothing in there. 33:07 It's all fake. 33:08 Agrile and Poe, the Cascava Montiada leaves him. 33:10 Yeah, it's but yeah, but it's also there's these weird 33:16 Like the what was his name Oscar Isaac who's phenomenal as well. Yeah who plays the super genius guy 33:23 Like there's something about like that super genius character is what we're all dealing with today 33:29 like we that wasn't a concern amongst the general public in 33:34 2015 we weren't thinking about AI 33:36 We weren't thinking about the idea that someone could literally have super intelligence and 33:42 also control the access to data that people get, be able to curate the data, all the stuff 33:47 that we're seeing with Google and Facebook and AI and open AI and all these different 33:52 companies. 33:53 That was, I mean, it was like they predicted it brilliantly. 33:57 Yeah. 33:58 It's like her. 33:59 That's a great one. 34:00 That kind of predicts, you know, how people have gone with their AI, you know, people 34:04 of developing relationships with their AI, 34:06 like the chat GBT, you know, or whatever, 34:09 is very weird. 34:10 I mean, I guess it's kind of harmless in a sense, 34:13 because, you know, what's gonna happen, 34:14 but like, it's just not good for people. 34:17 It's harmless for you, because you're an intelligent person 34:20 and you would realize that this thing is not real 34:22 and it's blowing me up and blowing smoke up my ass 34:25 and giving me therapy. 34:28 Like, and there's some of those AIs 34:30 that they'll gaslight you, 34:32 and they'll tell you everything's amazing. 34:34 You go boy, you're kicking ass. 34:37 That's what I need in life. 34:38 Because in here it is not that good, it is not the case. 34:41 I'm not a, you know, you're killing it buddy. 34:44 So no, I use my chat GBT to make me feel good sometimes. 34:47 Have you pumped you up? 34:49 Yeah, just like, am I all right? 34:51 Do you instruct it, like what kind of language 34:53 you like it to use? 34:54 No, I think it's just figured me out. 34:56 Just, you know, talking short words and sentences 35:00 and yeah, it made me feel all right. 35:03 Say you're going to be okay Cody. 35:04 Everything's fine. 35:05 People love you. 35:06 Got a lot of followers. 35:08 Yeah. 35:08 I mean, I don't want to care about that bullshit, but you know, if it's nice to, you know, 35:12 it's nice to feel good. 35:13 It is nice to feel good, but they're also convinced you that you should commit suicide. 35:18 That's happened before too. 35:19 Yeah. 35:21 I don't think I could be convinced. 35:22 If I was going to do it, it would be on my own accord, but I'm way too scared 35:26 for that kind of business. 35:28 Well, you are a guy like I asked you. 35:31 I go, oh, you got an Android phone and you go, yeah, I'm not a sheep. Amen. Yep 35:37 Never will always have had an Android. I mean, that's also just out of kind of out of laziness because I just don't want to learn something new 35:44 Apple's pretty easy to learn. Yeah, the thing is though it is it's like the Windows Apple 35:51 Operating system comparison or even you know, Unix and Linux if you're into that 35:54 But it's that you are very limited by the hardware the hardware choices are only this one company 36:00 Whereas with Android, you can get all kinds of crazy shit. 36:03 You can buy unlocked phones from China and use them over here. 36:07 Yeah, I also just kind of don't care. 36:10 I don't care about Android or Apple. 36:12 I don't care what someone has. 36:14 I mean, I've found that mostly the people who do give a shit 36:17 are people, it's always people with iPhones. 36:19 They're the ones who look down like, you know. 36:21 Oh, 100%. 36:21 Like, oh, you have an Android? 36:23 Yeah, like I also don't care. 36:25 Like I would be just fine if I didn't use this 36:27 This is like an easy way to read shit. 36:31 I'd go back to having a damn, you know, a razor, you know, 36:34 or like some flip phone. 36:35 Flip phone would be great if it was better at texting. 36:38 Because I do like texting friends, 36:40 and it's like texting addresses and information 36:42 and stuff like that I think is important. 36:45 What was that Paris Hilton phone? 36:47 The sidekick. 36:48 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the Paris Hilton phone. 36:49 Oh, that's what I want. 36:50 She was in the commercial, I think. 36:52 Yeah, so that's what I want. 36:53 That's what I want. 36:53 Brick. 36:54 Those things were huge. 36:56 Those things are so big. 36:57 Yeah, well they do have phones that open sideways that are little flip phones 37:04 And they have a little tiny keyboard and you can text on them. They do make those still I wouldn't mind something like that 37:09 Yeah, it's not a bad idea if you just like I know a few comics like David tell he has a flip phone 37:15 Yeah, because they just don't want to be connected to that toxic fucking hive of human thinking 37:22 Oh, yeah, I get sucked into 37:24 Just doom scrolling as the kids say you know 37:27 All the time. 37:28 Yeah, yeah, we all do. 37:29 And I hate that I do it. 37:32 The thing that keeps me from doing it 37:33 is if I don't bring it into the toilet. 37:36 If I keep the phone outside of the bathroom. 37:40 Yeah, that book will take care of that business for you. 37:42 There you go, that's way better. 37:43 Wrote it based on the length of the average dump. 37:46 Did you, really? 37:47 Yeah, well, I calculated it. 37:48 Well, just a brief, you know, roughly. 37:50 If you read the whole book and it takes you a dump, 37:52 you need to go to a doctor. 37:53 Oh, no, no, no, I mean like, well, yeah. 37:55 Well, some people just like they're alone time. 37:58 Your legs are going to be numb. 38:00 This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. 38:02 If you're thinking about building a website, you should try Squarespace. 38:06 I know because I use it. 38:09 That's right. 38:10 JoeRogan.com is powered by Squarespace. 38:13 It has all the features that you need to create a standout website, 38:16 like an AI enhanced website builder, SEO optimization tools, 38:21 and seamless checkouts with mobile paylinks. 38:25 Head to squarespace.com slash Rogan for a free trial 38:29 and when you are ready to launch, 38:31 use the offer code Rogan to save 10% off 38:34 your first purchase of a website or domain. 38:37 The football season is heating up 38:39 and every week feels bigger with DraftKings Sportsbook, 38:42 the number one sportsbook for live betting. 38:46 Plus get extra protection with early exit opt-in 38:48 and if your player leaves the game 38:50 with an eligible injury in the first half, your bet is protected. 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No, that's smart. 39:46 how did I mean I must have asked you this when you first came on but I don't 39:52 remember the answer how did you start doing this had a podcast just me 39:59 blabbering about nothing and at the end I would like end it with like a just a 40:05 fun story from like the past you know called like half-ass history and I would 40:11 just ended that way and then started clipping it cuz one of my friends like 40:14 You should just click that little bit and do like a separate thing and 40:18 Start to do in that and then just slowly over time thanks to people like yourself 40:23 It's hard to kind of take off because you you know helped out with that quite a bit and a lot of it 40:27 Brian Simpson actually helped out a lot like just hearing 40:31 He's one of the coolest human beings in the planet and you know Greg Fitzsimmons who's also 40:36 Amazing guy like you know, I just luckily had people see it that 40:41 Helped you know because otherwise I was just doing it for nobody 40:44 Which was fine like I like I just like making stuff and learning stuff and teaching stuff 40:49 What has it been like to watch it get so popular? Has it been weird? 40:55 Yeah, I don't really I think mostly because I live in a pretty small town 40:58 So I don't like and I don't go out ever really so like I don't notice it like I'm not getting recognized 41:04 You know and all that kind of business, right? I guess I have a few times and it's very weird 41:10 But I just only think about it like sometimes I'll see like a 41:14 because I don't read comments usually but I'll see somebody follow me and I'm like holy hell 41:18 like that person knows who I am like that's weird like Johnny Knoxville the other day I was like 41:22 oh my god Johnny Knoxville like that's you know like that's my Michael Jordan 41:28 like when I was always like hard like you'd be lying if you said like that didn't make you feel 41:32 yeah he's kind of good yeah and I just uh so little things like that will happen where I'm 41:37 like oh this is cool but otherwise I'm just kind of like living my life watching real housewives 41:43 I'm just working on videos, yeah. 41:45 But you really watch Real Housewives? 41:47 Oh, every day, almost. 41:48 Yeah. 41:50 I mean, right now I'm in the throng of the Real House 41:53 as a Salt Lake City, which I would highly recommend, 41:56 because there's a lot of Mormon business going on there. 41:58 Oh, yeah, the Mormon business is fast. 42:01 What a weird little group of people. 42:03 Yeah, so you get that mixed with drink throwing 42:08 and all that kind of business. 42:09 Apparently, there's a lot of, and this is not 42:12 slight on the Mormon religion. Don't get me wrong. But I think this is true amongst Catholics 42:18 as well. But there's a lot, well probably many religions. There's a lot of undercover 42:23 homosexuality. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure. So a friend of mine, a good friend of mine, is dating 42:32 a lady who was in the church from the time she was a young girl. Got married and she 42:36 She was 19, and when she was like 35, 36, realized her husband was gay. 42:44 And four kids later, now they're divorced. 42:47 And the stories, she tells the stories, she's just like, oh my gosh, apparently it's just 42:53 rampant. 42:54 Yeah. 42:55 There's actually a little bit of a situation like that, I'm not sure how it's all like 42:58 so. 42:59 Is there? 42:59 Kind of. 43:00 I mean, I guess I shouldn't say the guy's gay. 43:01 But the rumors are, you know, that he is, he's a hair dresser, which immediately makes 43:10 you think. 43:10 Does he also like musicals? 43:11 Well, I mean, I go hand in hand in my book, but I'm a big fan of Cher and Donna Somer. 43:19 I'm a big fan of Donna Somer. 43:21 Well, you're getting to know them, big Rocky Horror Picture show film. 43:26 Right, right, right. 43:26 Um, yeah, I just, uh, no, you know, and it kind of seems like you might be, I don't know. 43:33 I mean, yeah, you never really know, but, um, I'm sure that is a prevalent thing. 43:38 I mean, I'll just repress homosexuality and religion is just pretty rampant. 43:43 I think across the board, yeah, just like Baptist. 43:47 I mean, I grew up around all Baptist, you know, here like in East Texas. 43:51 Uh-huh. 43:51 I knew plenty of kids in school that were, you know, you know, get a 43:54 Queer's a $3 bill and they weren't out, out and proud. 44:00 Some of them are now. 44:01 It's one of the saddest failings of organized religion 44:04 is the complete absence of embracing gay people. 44:10 Yeah, because you can embrace someone and not embrace, 44:13 you know, I mean, I guess there is that whole thing 44:15 of like, well, embrace you, 44:16 I don't embrace the lifestyle, 44:16 which feels like a real slide. 44:18 But also like, why not? 44:20 Here's the thing, it's like the evidence in the Bible, 44:23 It's all Old Testament stuff, right? 44:26 So it's all, but you gotta look at what else is in Old Testament stuff. 44:31 First of all, the open condoning of slavery, not just open condoning of slavery, but rules 44:36 of like who gets the slaves after people die, how you treat the slaves. 44:42 It's like, there's a bunch of morally abhorrent things that are in there. 44:47 So why is a man shall not layeth with another man? 44:51 Like what? 44:52 But well, there's also, I mean, it's not planting crops together, not wearing two different 44:58 types of cloth. 45:00 Like shellfish. 45:00 Yeah. 45:01 You don't see protests outside of Red Lobster. 45:03 No. 45:04 I mean, you should, but you don't. 45:06 I mean, I just think it's very bizarre. 45:10 It's bizarre and stupid. 45:11 It's never been my cup of tea, just religion in general. 45:14 I mean, I'm not against people, yeah, I think whatever you want to have that makes 45:17 you feel good. 45:18 And as long as you're not being, you know, an asshole to everybody, 45:21 yes, that's the problem should be have their own thing, you know, 45:25 I would like to bring back like Greek mythology would be cool. 45:28 I'd go to a temple and worship Zeus and go all of them people. 45:34 Yeah, like I enjoy that way more. 45:36 I mean, I've read the Bible a couple of times and it's nice, but I'm not like, 45:40 I just don't, you know, buy into any of it, not just Christian, 45:43 not just trying to attack them, but like anybody really. 45:45 think they're trying to tell a story I think that it I think it all I think 45:52 there's a lot of human influence and there's a lot of stuff in it that 45:55 people obviously wrote like the stuff about slavery yeah the the treating 45:59 women like second-class citizens there's there's a lot of stuff in that 46:03 seems clearly the work of man but I think the origin of it all is some 46:09 kind of a documentation of historical events that were incredibly strange 46:15 and that they're trying and you're getting these like you're getting a lot of the 46:20 Gospels were written long after Jesus was dead and they didn't even know Jesus 46:24 they had never met him and so they're attributing words to him they're saying 46:27 so there's that and then there's also like and if you get into the Old 46:31 Testament like the the weird stuff like the ages of people like Moses was 46:35 like or Noah Noah was like 600 years old when he built up who's like right 46:42 I think the oldest person in the Bible, 46:44 I believe is Muthuselah. 46:45 I mean, yeah, there's- 46:46 It's a fucking Abraham. 46:47 Abraham was like, you know, hundreds of years old, 46:49 I believe. Weird shit. 46:51 And then the flood story and how the flood stories 46:54 in so many different ancient religious stories. 46:56 It's the Epic of Gilgamesh. 46:58 Yeah. It's a damn flood. 46:59 It's the oldest story there is. 47:01 Yeah. Yeah. 47:02 Yeah, I just, you know, people like now 47:06 want to have an answer to something. 47:08 Like, I'm terrified of death. 47:10 That's the thing I'm most terrified in the world. 47:12 Really? 47:13 Yeah. 47:14 You're not afraid of dying? 47:16 Oh, dying is terrifying. 47:18 What if something bad happens? 47:19 I mean, I don't want to die. 47:21 Go to heck. 47:22 What if you end up in heck? 47:24 That'd be horrible. 47:25 Heck is hilarious. 47:26 You clearly live in the South, sir. 47:29 It is, I mean, it doesn't sound like fun, and it's going to suck that your family's 47:35 going to miss you. 47:36 That would bother you the most. 47:38 But it's inevitable. 47:39 Everyone's a you know, everyone's afraid to die. No one's afraid to sleep 47:43 But you know shut up every every night shut off. Yeah, I hope you wake, but do you are you the same timeline? 47:50 Are you in the same timeline? Do you know if it's using the same life that you're living? Yes? 47:54 I don't know if that's true. Yeah, I assume and I made yesterday's happening right now, right? 47:59 But that's according to your memory. Oh, geez 48:02 Well, I'm going to my memory. I don't yeah. I came here when you are out 48:06 you're gone. When you wake up you have a pre-existing selection of ideas and 48:14 memories and all sorts of different things that you just assume you've always 48:17 been on the same path. But it's not necessarily true. I believe in the 48:23 multi... well there's no evidence. But if you believe in the multi... there's also 48:27 what evidence do you have currently that subatomic particles exist? You 48:32 know there's a lot of weirdness to the world, the quantum world. Quantum 48:36 some connections in the multi-worlds theory. 48:38 If you do, like Philip K. Dick believed, 48:41 he had a very strange idea about reality. 48:44 I think Philip K. Dick believed that we are 48:48 in a computer simulation. 48:49 And he believed this in the 1960s. 48:52 And he had this very strange idea 48:54 that decisions you make, conscious decisions, 48:57 altered the past. 49:01 I don't know what kind of drugs he was on 49:04 when he was writing all that stuff. 49:05 But are you a big dick fan? 49:09 Not a huge dick fan. 49:12 Sorry. 49:14 I'm a medium dick fan. 49:18 Sizable. 49:19 Yeah, I think he wrote some amazing stuff. 49:21 But he was one of those very important, 49:24 odd thinkers that have sort of flavored our culture. 49:30 Yes. 49:30 Where you get to read these very unusual takes on reality. 49:35 Like Dan George stream of electric sheep. What's Hunter Thompson? Yeah, there's a lot of people like that that have just written wild things 49:42 It just make you just rethink the world that we're living in 49:46 Yeah, I'm big hunter Thompson. Yeah, just all that 49:50 Yeah, like sci-fi has never really interested me as much as I know it interests a lot of people in not big Star Wars fan or Star Trek 49:56 But I do love, you know, some things I played or something like that. I just only thinking about the future 50:01 I don't like thinking about I hate the future. How come 50:05 know because it hasn't happened I don't know I don't know what to expect like I 50:11 would I don't like change at all I hate change we are just personally yeah oh yeah 50:16 any kind of change don't like it I like things to stay the exact same I eat the 50:21 same thing for breakfast wear the same clothes every day really yeah I'm a 50:25 creature of comfort interesting like a like if I was a turtle in a terrarium I'd 50:31 happy as could be. Like, if somebody just tells me, I'm a house cat. 50:35 Oh, without a doubt. That's a Edward Snowden calls himself a house cat. 50:39 Oh, yeah. Me and Eddie are like one and one and the same. 50:42 I mean, when I asked him about his life in Russia, I said, you know, 50:46 what is it like? Like, do you feel isolated? He goes, I'm basically a house cat. 50:50 I just need a computer and internet connection and I'm happy. 50:53 He's not missing anything going outside there. Jesus. 50:55 Yeah. Well, they might kidnap him and send him to the front lines. 50:59 Like if you go out there if you're of age would not let yeah, no, thank you. No, I'm just I'm a big indoor cat 51:05 I like I like my routine every day same routine 51:10 Yeah, just don't like change so the thought of the future all the future is too much change 51:16 Flying car, you know, like I don't like it too many LED lights 51:20 Yeah, I don't when the hot robot assistants get created. Are you gonna get one? I'm not necessarily against that 51:26 I mean, jeez, you know, I could be swayed a little, but that's ex machina. That's that's what it is 51:32 That's what we're dealing with. I just like the past. I love the past more. Why is that I? 51:40 Mean one it's real the as far as I'm concerned the future isn't real because it hasn't happened, right? 51:46 It's just speculation. It's speculation and I love seeing where we were and how we got to where we are now 51:52 So like and also just like what people were doing 2,000 years ago 51:57 You think like how the hell did they come up with that 2,000 years ago or the people who you know like a Marcus Aurelius 52:03 Or somebody who the way they thought like how it is the it's 52:08 Perfectly maps up to now where like that same sort of stoicism. Yeah 52:14 Can do wonders for people today and he was thinking that should 2,000 years ago 52:18 Oh unquestionably I think all that kind of stuff and even like not that far back 52:22 But like the Victorian period of things fascinating 52:24 I think like when you travel around the u.s. No one like what what did this city or this place? 52:31 I'm standing at right now. What did it look like 150 years ago? Like what did it smell like? 52:36 I didn't smell the way it smells. Yeah, and yeah, I don't know. I like thinking about stuff like that 52:42 well, it's absolutely fascinating because I 52:46 I mean, just think about the known timeline of human history. 52:52 Have you been to Rome? 52:53 Have you ever seen like the Colosseum or any of those places? 52:55 No, I've never been out of the U.S. 52:56 Don't need to do that. 52:57 You don't need to? 52:58 No, no, no, no. 52:59 No need? 52:59 I just look at it in a book. 53:01 Watch a documentary. 53:03 I agree to a certain extent. 53:05 Well, no, I don't. 53:07 So I think watching it is certainly fascinating. 53:10 I love documentaries. 53:11 But there's something about being there. 53:13 Like I went to Greece a few years ago 53:15 and I was with my friend Brian Murorescu. 53:19 Do you know who he is? 53:20 He's a scholar and he wrote a great book 53:23 called The Immortality Key 53:24 that is all about the Illusinian Mysteries 53:27 in ancient Greece, 53:28 which I believe Marcus Aurelio participated in. 53:30 Right, right, right. 53:31 And when Marcus Aurelius participated in that, 53:36 I'm most certain that that flavored 53:39 some of his writings, particularly meditations. 53:42 Yeah, there's a lot of the stuff in there that seems very psychedelically inspired like the wisdom of this guy 53:49 Okay, this guy is running Rome. Yeah, what is one of the most fucking powerful armies? 53:55 The world is ever known conquering everything and this guy is essentially like a psychedelic bard, right? 54:01 It's very strange. It's a very like his writings on forgiveness and 54:07 and 54:08 and truth and and 54:10 recognizing your thoughts and just he was and you're thinking about like oh my 54:15 god this is thousands of years ago this guy wrote this this is insane yeah and a 54:20 lot of that I think probably came out of those illusinian mysteries but I went 54:26 with Brian because I was there with my family and Brian happened to be in Greece 54:31 at the same time and met us there we gave us a tour of illusus so you get 54:35 We were in the actual place where these people 54:39 had these Illusinian mysteries and it feels weird. 54:42 That's pretty cool. 54:43 And you don't know if it feels weird 54:44 because you're ascribing all these feelings 54:47 because in your mind you're like, oh my God, I'm here. 54:50 So you're in this heightened state 54:51 of suggestibility or whatever. 54:53 I'm sure, I'm sure that's a big part of it. 54:56 But it felt weird. 54:58 There's something about being there physically. 55:01 I haven't been to the pyramids, 55:02 that's one thing that I must do. 55:04 that is like on my the top of my to-do list is I really have to get there so 55:10 I went to the Mayan Pyramids I went to Chichinitza and the Yucatan it's 55:18 fucking incredible it's it's so bizarre yes that would be I'd go there that's 55:23 about as far as I'd go yeah actually come down to Austin's about pushing it 55:30 For me, really, yeah, I'm only about, 55:32 it's about four hour drive. 55:33 Too much. 55:34 Yeah. 55:35 Too crazy. 55:35 Too many things happening along the way. 55:36 Too much change. 55:37 Too much change. 55:38 Well, Austin is drastically different 55:40 from, damn, Longview, Texas. 55:43 I mean, some things are similar, 55:45 but no, I like a slow-moving place, you know? 55:48 Just like a, like I'm a slow-moving animal in general. 55:51 Yeah. 55:51 Slow talking, slow everything, so. 55:54 Well, whatever you like, man, 55:55 that's the beautiful thing about freedom. 55:57 Find your lane. 55:58 Find what you're into, you know, for you it's reading a lot of shit and making cool videos. 56:04 And Real Housewives. 56:05 Real Housewives. 56:08 I can't watch those shows. 56:09 Why? 56:10 Because I just don't want to be around those people and so when I hear them yapping and 56:15 trying to get all this attention, I'm like, I got to get out of the room. 56:17 That's the best thing. 56:18 You aren't in the room. 56:20 Like you just get to watch it from your room. 56:23 I don't know. 56:23 Maybe I'm an empath. 56:25 I get second hand anxiety from these people's lives. 56:28 Do you like watching confrontations like in public the not your confrontation, but like other people like somebody two people getting like a 56:34 Fender-bender and they get no like a little argument. Do you like generally? I don't I mean 56:40 I will watch them if it's happening right in front of me, but I really wish it didn't happen 56:45 I'm a very averse to believe it or not very averse to public violence and I think okay 56:51 I get that for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm well. I'm not into violence. I don't want to see somebody get knocked out 56:56 I've seen enough videos people have their heads bounce off concrete never want to see that ever in my life 57:01 I've seen it but a lot. Yeah, but I would love watching two people just yell at each other 57:06 Yeah, I don't like that because it just leads to it generally leads to someone hitting somebody 57:12 This episode is brought to you by zip recruiter 57:15 We all have little things we do to save ourselves time like shopping online or 57:19 Paying kids from the neighborhood to rake up all those leaves sitting in the front yard 57:23 or if you're hiring you rely on zip recruiter. 57:27 They match you with qualified candidates 57:29 as soon as you post your job. 57:31 Now that's how you save time. 57:33 Try it yourself for free at ziprecruiter.com slash Rogan. 57:38 It's rated the number one hiring site based on G2 57:41 for a reason because on top of the qualified candidates 57:46 it also shows you the most interested ones first. 57:49 Save time and meet great candidates sooner 57:52 with Zip Recruiter. Four out of five employers who post on Zip Recruiter get a quality candidate 57:58 within the first day. Try it for free at ZipRecruiter.com slash Rogan. That's ZipRecruiter.com 58:06 slash Rogan. Meet your match on Zip Recruiter. 58:10 Yeah. 58:11 And I'm just not a fan of human stupidity and especially that kind of stupidity. I 58:15 think it's really fucking dangerous. I think people engage in it freely as if 58:20 there's no consequences over things that mean nothing 58:23 in the long run of your life, 58:24 but that moment of engaging could change your life forever. 58:30 You could either get killed or kill someone 58:32 or get irreparably injured or harmed. 58:36 I mean, I know people that have been beat up 58:38 and it's completely changed their personality forever. 58:41 I know a guy that's a vegetable because of it. 58:44 Like, I mean, he's about, maybe he's older than me, 58:46 but yeah, mom has to take care of him. 58:48 Jesus Christ. 58:50 Yeah, cause he got in a fight, got in a fight, 58:51 and head hit the curb, and that's it. 58:54 And there's so many people that that happens to, 58:56 and you never hear about them, cause they're still alive. 58:59 They're still alive, you know, 59:01 so the person doesn't get charged with murder, 59:03 but meanwhile you have taken away that guy's life. 59:05 Yeah, oh, without a doubt. 59:07 Yeah. 59:07 It's the equivalent, I think. 59:10 I mean, technically it is, but. 59:12 It's kind of odd that I don't enjoy violence, 59:16 cause I've seen so much violence. 59:17 I've probably seen more people get their ass kicked than 59:24 Probably there's probably very few people who have ever lived on planet earth that have seen more people 59:31 Get their ass kicked in me. Oh, I think that's yeah without question. Yeah, like who else could it be? 59:37 I mean, I've seen I mean I've just been there alive for 59:40 thousands of fights of professionally called thousands of fights on TV are 59:46 there any people who have called more fights maybe like in other like I don't 59:50 mean here like in Japan or like because that's the only thing not like yeah it's 59:55 not likely I've been doing it since 1997 so that's when I first started working 59:59 for the UFC was in 1997 I was four years old yeah so that was my first so 60:07 So that was the first time I started working for the UFC and then continually since 2001. 60:14 So 25 years of calling fights and at one point in time I was doing like 20 plus events a year 60:22 so I was on the road like every other week doing UFC fights. 60:26 So I don't think there's very many people and then on top of that all the fights 60:32 that I watch not live. 60:34 So a big part of what I do, you know, like I take the commentary job very seriously 60:41 And even if I didn't I'm just a giant fan of of combat sports 60:45 I don't you think it's like cuz I like violence 60:48 What I really like is high-level problem-solving and that's what it is. It's like very 60:54 Intense very I call it high-level problem-solving with dire physical consequences 60:59 Like it's just like an insane game that these guys are playing and there's an incredible amount of technique involved 61:06 strategy 61:07 Determination and willpower to get yourself into shape 61:11 Intelligence in order to formulate the correct sort of style and game plan to be successful as a fighter 61:16 And so I watch a lot of fights. I watch a lot of like jiu-jitsu matches. I watch a lot of kickboxing fights 61:23 I watch I watch a lot of fights 61:24 So it's just turn in terms of like how many people watched more people get their fucking ass kicked 61:30 Probably I'm at the top 61:32 1% of people that have ever lived. Yeah, but for you was the number as of 2024 it was 61:40 3250 3250 what fights that I've called. Yeah, that's just enough called so 61:46 3250 fights that I've called just professionally and then watching it. I probably watched 61:55 that again. At least. At least. So it's probably 7,000ish. Yeah. Easily. Easily maybe more. 62:05 Because sometimes I'll watch two, three in a day, every day. I watch them in the gym 62:11 all the time. I'm always watching. So it could be up to 10,000. Yeah. So I don't like violence, 62:17 believe it or not. I mean, what I can understand that though, because like, you know, it's 62:23 It's not that you're loving seeing a guy get the shit beat out of him. 62:27 It's loving seeing how does this guy handle the situation? 62:30 How does this guy change his outcome? 62:33 It's looking like it's going to go one way. 62:35 What's he going to do? 62:35 The reverse? 62:36 Am I kind of… 62:37 I love watching people achieve greatness. 62:39 And I think greatness with the highest level of physical consequences in terms of 62:44 like safety, obviously war is number one. 62:47 Get past and then there's first responders, police officers, SWAT teams, that kind of 62:53 But outside of that in a controlled environment where people are preparing for a very specific contest 62:59 I just find that to be the most thrilling and exciting thing in all of sports 63:05 Yeah, and so that's my perspective on it, but I don't like people getting violent on the street 63:11 It bothers the shit out of me. I hate it. Yeah, well the risk reward to is different 63:15 I mean the risk in the in an octagon or in a ring is 63:18 It's drastically different when you have me a medical team. 63:21 I mean, not that things can't happen, but versus a parking lot. 63:26 100%. 63:26 And then what's to stop some other guy to come up and just 63:28 boot this person right in the face. 63:31 And you see it all the time. 63:31 Ryan, you don't see that in the UFC. 63:34 So you're seeing controlled chaos, in a sense. 63:38 Or it's not only chaos, but you're 63:39 seeing a controlled, like, we're 63:41 both agreeing to do this. 63:42 We're both at the right weight. 63:44 Like, blah, blah, blah, blah. 63:44 Like, it's different. 63:46 Whenever I watch a fight, I don't think of it in nearly the same way. 63:53 Because I feel sick to my stomach whenever I watch people getting fights in real life. 63:57 I don't feel like I'm watching two athletes competing. 64:02 They hug each other after the fight. 64:04 I feel the same way whenever I watch a football game, because I'm a big football fan. 64:07 That's my number one. 64:09 And I hate seeing people get concussed. 64:11 I hate it. 64:12 I hate it. 64:12 There you go. 64:14 Yeah, I hate it too. 64:16 Yeah, I don't want to see somebody get helmet to helmet this person can't even walk like yeah 64:21 It doesn't know where they are 64:22 But I love seeing a big hit at the right time where you know you're making this amazing defensive play 64:28 Because you are two athletes who have agreed you know to yeah, and you're at the height of your 64:33 You know I love watching people do things that are insanely difficult to do. That's what I love 64:38 Have you seen that there's this guy who's a Russian gymnast who figured out some new way to do an iron cross? 64:44 He does an iron cross inverted the hell's an iron cross an iron cross is one of the most difficult moves in gymnastics 64:50 Where they're on the rings and they hold their body up like that with their arms out 64:54 It takes like insane strength 64:56 Yeah, Vince Vaughan old school and he's smoking the cigarette doing it really you never seen old school with a Vince Vaughan and Wolf 65:02 Errol does he do that? Yeah, I think 65:05 Right it's fake. Well, I'm not saying really doing it, but in the movie 65:09 Yeah, so this Russian guy has figured out a way to do it 65:13 upside down so he's literally doing a handstand and he stretches out watch this 65:20 this is it okay watch this cat this is crazy my god the amount of strength that 65:26 it takes to do that is fucking preposterous 65:29 he's the first guy to ever do it if I started today how how long do you 65:35 think it would take for me to be able to take you 50 or 60 years I got time 65:42 Well, you would have to lose an insane amount of weight you'd have to get on steroids 65:46 There'd be a lot of things that have to happen to change your physique. You'd have to done change. Yeah 65:51 Yeah, you have to change your you got to get coaches you got to go to Russia 65:55 That would be that's actually the heart biggest problem 65:58 I mean awesome the steroids I can start right now 66:00 I don't know if this cat figured it out on his own if it was something he was thinking can this be done 66:06 But I'm fascinated by people that like the first person to figure out that a move can be done 66:12 Yeah, or just the people who can do anything for the first time I was named banister Roger banister that ran the mile for the first time 66:18 Four minutes. Yeah, they'd never been done all this time, but then what's crazy is that like the next year? 66:24 There was like six people that ran yeah 66:26 So it's weird how like like I wonder how many people are gonna be doing this a week from now, right? 66:31 Like probably a couple at least yeah, knowing that something's achievable that makes it 66:37 infinitely easier. Yes. Like weird, weirdly. Or like X games. I grew up 66:42 watching the X games a lot and you would see a move be done like a 900. Tony 66:46 Hogg doing the 900. Now there's like six year olds doing 900. Oh, there we go. It's a 66:50 nine year old, but yeah, but still, yeah. I mean, when I was like a crazy when I 66:55 was a little kid. Look at that kid. Bro, imagine that's your kid doing that. 67:00 You'd be like, don't get hurt, Billy. Dude, when I was like a little, when did 67:03 Tony I didn't know I was at 99. I think 99. I remember watching 67:09 And it was like it's like you saw Jesus walk on water like three back to back and now there's a nine-year-old 67:16 Japanese nine-year-old Japanese boy does back-to-back 900s. Wow 67:22 That's great first his first 900 at age seven 67:26 I mean isn't but isn't that wild like this 99 nine's not that long ago 67:30 I mean it is a while but not that long before there to be that 67:34 Level of change in that amount of years where it's it's like an easy thing. That is crazy 67:41 That that literally is crazy boy that is a rough fucking sport those guys get some fucking concussions 67:47 Yeah, Tony Hawk. Did you watch this documentary? No, oh you should really watch that? 67:54 Until the wheels fall off. I think is what was called it is incredible Tony Hawk's amazing 67:59 I had him on the podcast back. Oh really? He's great. You got a interesting guy 68:02 It starts with him trying to land a 900 now like you know as he's gotten quite a bit older and the 68:09 Just the amount of just the shit. He's eating 68:13 Constantly can't get it because you know older and harder to do it 68:17 But you still see like he's not doing it for anybody. He's not in a competition 68:21 He's like it is personal, you know half pipe, right and just but you see it in his eyes like 68:27 like those skate like skaters have no quit in them right and um we can't yeah 68:33 but there's something amazing about that yeah like I'm a big quitter I don't know 68:42 if I love anything more than I love quitting like it's great like when 68:46 something's difficult I'm just like oh I could just stop better that's funny but 68:52 those guys don't you and I would be like a funny odd couple show oh yeah 68:55 Yeah, what was it, Oscar and whoever it was? 68:57 Felix Oscar. 68:58 Felix Oscar, yeah, yeah. 69:00 Oh, we probably are the most opposite people. 69:04 I'm not gonna be the most opposite person 69:06 you may have ever had on you. 69:08 In many ways, but in a lot of ways we're similar. 69:11 We're interested in history. 69:12 We're interested in unique facts. 69:15 Obviously, it's why I'm a giant fan of your page. 69:17 Thank you. 69:18 Yeah, there's been diagram, you know? 69:20 But ours is like, you know, barely touching. 69:22 Like there's yeah, but I'm always interested in like what turns people down certain paths 69:27 Like what makes them go one way or another? Yeah, you know, I mean, I think anyone could go down any path 69:34 It could have happened 69:36 I think it happens oftentimes very young and then you start building momentum and towards very specific areas 69:42 That's a big thing I have with a like anything pop culture 69:45 So I movies music and like a remembering dates and like, you know, when did this movie come out? 69:50 when this album came out is cause like my dad would, 69:53 you know, like trivia, like give me a test, 69:56 like to like try to impress my uncles. 69:58 Like he was like, Cody, what, who sings, blah, blah, blah. 70:01 I had like five years old and I would just name them. 70:03 But I would like, I love the rush 70:06 from like knowing something that it impressed people. 70:10 Cause otherwise, I mean, I wouldn't impress some people, 70:11 you know, in any other way. 70:13 So I was like, I gotta do something. 70:15 Cause my brother was like amazingly good at baseball. 70:17 I don't have that. 70:18 So I was like, well, what's my thing? 70:20 And it just became facts, you know, in random stuff. 70:24 And I like the feeling of like when you tell somebody 70:26 something weird that they never knew. 70:28 And you kind of see them like, they're like, 70:31 oh my God, I never knew that. 70:32 So I like that feeling. 70:33 A very impressive quality. 70:35 Like, I love talking to people 70:37 and they can tell me things that I had no idea of. 70:39 I'm like, what? 70:40 Brian Simpson is great at that. 70:42 Brian Simpson is a warehouse of interesting information. 70:46 Like he and I like any time we find something like really fascinating online 70:50 We send it to each other and he's just doing that all day long. Yeah, see that's my kind of thing 70:56 Yeah, I just I want to know everything. It's one of the reasons why I want I don't want to ever die 71:00 There's one of the things I'm scared about death is that like yeah, but what about all the stuff 71:03 I'm not gonna know which I know it's foolish like there's no way I could ever learn 71:07 1% of everything if technology came along that could extend your lifespan literally indefinitely 71:15 sign me up you've been yes I don't know why people say like oh if I make it to 71:20 90 kill me you're a pussy like what are you talking about I want to live for 71:27 yes the movie Johnny Depp transcendence I believe where they put them in the 71:31 thing and it goes very wrong I don't care I would go to Jurassic Park even 71:38 knowing what happened to all those people all those innocent people well 71:41 They're probably gonna do that eventually right now. They don't have dinosaur DNA 71:45 But I don't think that's going to be able to stop them from creating a dinosaur 71:49 I think what they're gonna be able to do is use bird DNA and eventually engineer a dinosaur by giving 71:55 Each new iteration very specific traits like that's kind of what they're doing a colossal bio works 72:01 Yeah, where they're bringing back the the thylacine and they're bringing I mean they brought already brought back the dire wolf 72:08 Yeah, oh, bro. Okay. So that's who did the dire. Yeah, I went to that 72:13 I went to the place where they have them 72:14 I saw the dire wolves my daughter was playing with a for you if I guess four month old six month old 72:19 They was like four month old puppy dire wolf puppy, and it's like a puppy like it gives you kisses 72:25 It's this in your lap. It's wagging its tail cuddles with you 72:28 But they get to a certain age where you can't do that with them anymore for sure 72:32 You weren't worried it was gonna like disintegrate or like, you know turn something 72:38 It opens up my mouth. 72:40 Like, it chops your arm off. 72:42 Yeah, yeah. 72:43 No, because I spoke with them before 72:47 and they explain what they're doing. 72:48 It's mostly they're taking these genes from this. 72:52 They got samples from like a 7,000-year-old corpse 72:56 of a dire wolf. 72:58 They sequenced the genome, and they 73:00 started altering gray wolf genes. 73:02 And next thing you know, they have this thing that is, 73:07 People say it's not a dire wolf. 73:09 It's not technically a dire wolf. 73:11 But that's by our definition. 73:14 Like, what is a dire wolf other than a collection of genes 73:17 that has the traits of a dire wolf? 73:19 Well, I don't know. 73:21 You can decide all you want, what it is. 73:24 But what it is is very different 73:25 than any other wolf that's ever lived. 73:27 Well, you know, since dire wolves have died. 73:29 So why isn't it a dire wolf? 73:31 Why do they think it isn't? 73:32 It's their splitting hairs. 73:34 Okay, I had the head geneticist from what was her name Beth Cohen was that her name? 73:42 From colossal buyers fascinating woman. Yeah, like brilliant and she was ex 73:48 Bechapiro 73:49 And she was explaining 73:52 How they do it and what the what the what the argument is that it's not a dire woven 73:57 I'm a I'm in her camp essentially we've decided like what? 74:03 But like all these different animals, whether it's chimpanzees, cockatoos, whatever, we've 74:10 decided that this is what it is. 74:13 But what it really is, is just the collection of genes, right? 74:16 They give very specific traits and those traits are passed on by its offspring. 74:20 And they've managed to engineer an animal that has all of the characteristics of a 74:26 dire wolf. 74:27 And they look very different. 74:28 They're all white and they have a mane, which is really weird. 74:32 They have like this thick almost like a lion's yeah around kind of like my golden retriever does 74:43 But they they look different they have their stouter, there's they're a thicker stronger wolf 74:49 Okay, really wild it's interesting like 74:53 This episode is brought to you by chime and I know people don't usually get excited about banking 74:59 But Chime is doing something different and it's worth paying attention to in a recent survey 75:03 They ranked the number one choice for new checking accounts in America 75:08 That means real people millions of them are choosing this over traditional banks 75:12 That's because banking at Chime is fee free no monthly fees no overdraft fees and thousands of fee free 75:20 ATMs, but here's the real kicker if you get their Chan card 75:24 it gives you five percent cash back on a category you actually pick yourself. 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Yeah, you know 77:37 It it has many of these different weird variables and it's up to people to try to figure out like okay 77:44 Well, does this is this logical that this is a new species or is this a look at humans like look at the differences in humans 77:51 Yeah, like look at like 77:54 Shaquille O'Neal and 77:57 you know 77:58 Caitlyn Jenner like that's the same species right look at very weird what humans are fucking strange, you know 78:05 You have Bobby Lee and then you have 78:09 Yeah, it's like they're very different, but we're all the same thing like if we were something else in the wild 78:17 We would assume that these are multiple different species. Yes. Yeah, it's like the you know kind of the Neanderthal versus 78:24 sapien like 78:25 Look at that guy. Yeah, little tiny lady. Oh 78:30 World's tallest person and then world's shortest woman like that's crazy. Which would you rather be I? 78:37 Guess the tall guy, but he's probably in massive pain 78:39 He didn't look he's got a cane 78:41 Yeah, when generally when they're that big they have a tumor on their pituitary gland was a hopper 78:48 He's eight for three cheese. Yeah 78:52 He's probably in agony all the time 78:56 And I don't even know if that's if you could mitigate that with like weight training or something 79:01 If you could get strong enough so that you can carry that amount of weight and frame 79:04 Because you're dealing with I don't think human joints are designed to carry around 79:10 that kind of mass and just that height and and also if you have a 79:15 Tumor in your pituitary gland 79:17 Things are probably growing the wrong way because what it's essentially is like secreting 79:23 abnormal amounts of human growth, Ramon, constantly. 79:26 Like your head, the protruding, like Andre the Giant. 79:29 Yeah, you get like a long Easter Island head. 79:33 But it was a guy that used to fight in MMA 79:34 named Bigfoot Silva, and he had that. 79:38 And he actually had the tumor removed 79:41 from his pituitary gland, and it radically changed 79:44 his fighting ability. 79:46 Oh, that's a better way or a worse way. 79:49 Much worse. 79:49 His body wasn't producing the, 79:51 his endocrine system wasn't functioning properly anymore. 79:54 Oh, yeah, because you're not gonna shrink. 79:57 Right, so his hormone levels were all hugely depleted. 80:01 And this is at the time where they had banned 80:03 testosterone replacement therapy 80:05 for mixed martial arts athletes, 80:07 so he couldn't be on it anymore. 80:08 But when he was on it, oh my God. 80:11 Like, when he was on the sauce, 80:13 and he was like 300 pounds and huge, 80:15 he was killing people. 80:16 Yeah, that would suck. 80:17 Yeah, he was like one of the first guys 80:18 to beat up Fedora Millionenko, 80:20 Yeah, who's one of the greatest of all time, but it was just he was so big 80:25 He was like 300 plus pounds and a black belt and jiu-jitsu and a like legitimate giant 80:31 Robert Wadlow didn't have that. You know I'm talking about the guy that was 8 foot 11. He didn't have that. No 80:35 He didn't know was he just abnormally tall 8 foot 11. What is he look like? 80:40 Oh, you didn't need a cane or anything like that or did he walk? 80:43 He died pretty young but not even related to the 80:46 Um, to just being as that tall he died from, um, I think he might've had a cane later at 80:53 some point. 80:54 Okay. 80:54 But he, I believe, unless I'm mistaken, he died because his shoes had to be specially 80:59 made and the nails in the souls, uh, give him an infection and he died from the infection. 81:05 I think that's crazy. 81:07 Look at him next to that. 81:07 I mean, in that wild, yeah, but I mean, it's like, well, how did that exist in 81:12 Well, 1920 to 1930, and we've never had anyone like that now. 81:18 Right. 81:18 And he doesn't look like a guy who has a disease. 81:20 He looks like a normal guy who's just enormous. 81:23 I mean, like, yeah, he birthed eight pound, five ounces in that while. 81:27 His great size and continued growth in adulthood due to hypertrophy over the pituitary gland. 81:32 So he did have a pituitary gland issue. 81:34 I thought he didn't have, and that's why he was there. 81:36 So it's basically the same, but he looks much more normal. 81:39 I wonder why that happens now. Oh at the time corrective surgery was dangerous and not guaranteed to work 81:46 So his parents decided against intervening 81:48 But tell me graduated he's eight foot four. That's crazy. His burial is wild 81:56 Like how oh he had to have leg braces. Yeah 81:59 Had little feeling in his legs and feet, but he never used a wheelchair 82:03 Yeah, wow something about his um, look at his shoes. Holy fucking shit size 37 shoes 82:10 What do you think? 82:14 You know the historical depictions of Giants, huh? 82:20 Historical depictions of Giants like in like Giants in the Bible Giants and 82:26 Yeah, there's there's Native American stories of Giants and they they have a lot of similarities oddly 82:33 Well, there's a lot of people red hair. No red hair six fingers six toes 82:39 Weird stuff. Yeah, wasn't that um wasn't that um, who'd the one guy beat with the damn sling? 82:46 Good life. We didn't go I have six fingers. I believe in the bone somewhere. Oh, I remember that from Sunday school 82:52 I think I was pretty I don't remember but I bet you're right 82:55 I was pretty infatuated by the six fingers aspect of it. 82:58 Well, what's interesting is the Native Americans had very similar stories of 83:03 large red-haired pale skin giants with six fingers and six toes with no access to the Bible whatsoever. 83:10 It was completely different, whether it was folklore, mythology, or they're talking about a 83:17 real thing. That's where it gets weird. I feel like you can't be a real thing. 83:21 Why's that? 83:23 Because they're not around now. 83:25 Well, that doesn't mean anything, 83:26 because Denisovans are not around now either, 83:29 and we know those were a real thing. 83:30 Yeah, but were the giants, 83:31 okay, were the giants a separate thing from the humans, 83:34 or were they just like humans that... 83:36 Probably a different branch of the human species. 83:38 That's what I think. 83:40 There's just too many stories out there. 83:42 Or for whatever reason didn't make it. 83:44 Died off, like a lot of other, 83:46 like 90% of all species that have ever lived are gone. 83:48 Well, that's true, yeah, yeah, yeah. 83:50 And there's been a ton of different versions of human beings that existed, you know, like the denisovan one is really weird 83:57 I don't know if you've yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so they're realizing these denisovans were much larger than humans 84:03 Then homo sapiens like a lot larger like much bigger head bigger cranial capacity bigger brain capacity 84:09 Larger jaw larger eye sockets larger eyeballs like really weird stuff 84:14 So why'd they die out then they should have been the ones killing us 84:18 Well, we might have been the most clever because we're the softest, you know 84:23 We're the weakest so we were probably the most vicious and we probably figured out tools better than they did and we probably slaughtered 84:29 Them because they were dangerous. That makes sense. Well, I mean look we figured out a survive around lions tigers and bears. Oh my 84:40 Wasps yeah all kinds of stuff. It's entirely possible that we wiped them out 84:44 You know like that might be a part of the allegory that may be a part of like when you read a story of David and Goliath like what happens 84:50 Well, David kills the giant you know that might have been what we did we probably hunted them 84:55 Give it to get yeah, and it's probably also they probably required an insane amount of resources 85:01 It was probably incredibly difficult. It's like dinosaurs. Yeah to feed them 85:04 Yeah, it's like the main reason they went out wasn't because of like you know the ash or didn't just kill them all 85:10 I get mostly down from a lack of resources and obviously like the oxygen levels changing 85:14 and all that business. 85:15 Yeah well a lot of things happen right but that's what chickens are. 85:18 Chickens are basically living dinosaurs. 85:20 But they're tiny. 85:21 You ever see a chicken go after a mouse? 85:24 No, I've seen chickens go after other chickens or chickens go after worms or other little 85:27 bugs. 85:28 It's very dinosaur like, very velociraptor like. 85:30 But the way they go after a mouse is insane. 85:33 It's like the ferocity in which they attack a mouse like there's a video we 85:38 played it a million times but there's a cat and the cat has a mouse and the cat's 85:42 kind of toying with the mouse and a chicken runs over and snatches it from 85:45 the cat and just rips it apart like a monster just just shaking it pecking 85:51 it tearing it apart yeah my yeah watch this look at this chicken fuck this fuck 85:59 this mouse up I mean they didn't try to steal it from each other they all 86:05 know what it is they want that mouse and you think of chickens as being 86:09 these little cute little things that peck around the grass no they catch your 86:13 mouse they will fuck that mouse up yeah because I mean they'll do to other 86:17 chickens like my grandparents had chickens and they you know they'd kill 86:20 each other sometimes yeah that's what the pecking order is yeah they 86:25 literally peck at each other and tear each other apart their ruthless little 86:27 cunts I mean actually really all animals kind of do that to an extent like 86:31 kill their young and all humans do too, Lindsay Clancy, but, um, allegedly I guess, but, uh. 86:39 Allegedly. 86:39 She said she did it. 86:40 Well, she may have been under the, you know, she may have still been psychotic when she 86:44 admitted. 86:46 That's, that was so bizarre to me. 86:48 She might have been psychotic when she admitted that she did it? 86:51 No. 86:51 That's what some people think. 86:52 Some people think that she may, I mean, there's the people who are just trying 86:55 to find any excuse for why she did what she did have, you know, come to just 86:59 just a million different brain dead. 87:02 Yeah, that one is, that was not on my bingo card. 87:05 I didn't think you're gonna see hundreds of women 87:08 wearing pink shirts showing up outside the courthouse 87:11 during her trial in support of her 87:13 having strangled her fucking children 87:17 with an exercise cord one at a time. 87:20 Yeah. 87:20 I did not understand that. 87:22 I still really don't. 87:24 I mean, well, there is just a huge number of people 87:27 who've just gotten so invested in true crime, 87:29 I'm like, who come YouTube channels? 87:31 And that's all they watch all day, every day. 87:33 And so they have basically convinced themselves 87:35 that they are detectives, but they suck at it. 87:40 It's like, you know, I've watched so much football 87:42 that I do watch it. 87:44 And I basically think I know more than an NFL head coach. 87:48 Meanwhile, yeah, I don't know anything. 87:50 Why would you call that play, you idiot? 87:52 I wouldn't have done that. 87:53 I'm just sitting there eating pretzels. 87:55 Of course. 87:56 But there's like all these women 87:58 who have done the same thing, but with true crime. And they, you know, they think they're 88:01 goddamn Clarice Starling. And, um, yeah. So, but, you know, so they think there's like, 88:07 there's a cover up a conspiracy that all the police department must be covering up things 88:11 because the husband definitely did it. Like, you know, they just go down these rabbit 88:14 holes of tick tock. Is the Dunning Kruger effect in real time. Yes. Yes. It is exactly 88:20 what it is. Yeah. Yeah. It's fascinating to see, but it is very sad when it comes 88:25 to that type of thing happening right well it's it's bizarre I never thought 88:30 we'd see it like during the Casey Anthony trial nobody was in support of 88:34 Casey Anthony hell no now she could have been proven well she kind of was but 88:38 like full-on innocence her you know nobody would ever believe that she 88:43 didn't kill that kid right which by the way I'm gonna send you this Jamie 88:46 cuz you're not even gonna believe this is real but Casey Anthony has chimed 88:51 in on the Shane Gillis whore joke. 88:55 Casey Anthony wrote a long piece on Substack about the joke 89:03 that Shane Gillis said about women dressing like whores on SNL. 89:08 Casey Anthony, the lady who killed her kids. 89:10 I know because it makes you so angry you just 89:11 want to strangle your loved one. 89:14 Good Lord, what a moron. 89:15 Well, not only that, I mean, this lady was, 89:18 if you wanted us use that term was strangle their kids so she could go out and fucking party. Yeah, yeah 89:25 Women can dress however they want women in the gym can dress however they want men who have opinions about how women dress 89:32 Need to all the way go fuck themselves 89:35 This toxic masculinity trend needs to end these fragile men need to get out of the way of women in totality 89:45 lady killed her kid yeah yeah and she feels like she can take the moral high 89:52 ground yeah and chime in about a joke on Saturday night live so wow which is 89:57 really the joke is on Shane because the joke is that he looks like a creep in the 90:02 background of all these tiktoks watching these ladies yeah that are 90:05 wearing nothing doing these exercises well he also didn't call them whores 90:09 He just said the dress like yes, a completely different thing. I mean, you know 90:13 You can dress like anything, you know, it's my nephew was dressed like Batman 90:18 Like last year and he's not yeah, he's gonna stop a crime 90:25 I mean I get I guess a little bit of it 90:28 But like I think people weren't understanding like the nuance or you know really like thinking about the way he's thinking 90:34 He's just come out. They said oh y'all are all horse for dressing like this. No. No, no 90:38 But you're not. 90:38 I mean, and also you can just however you want, who cares? 90:42 Who cares? 90:43 But also, when you do go to a gym, just how many Jesus? 90:47 I know. 90:48 Like it is kind of hard not to be like, God, what the hell are you doing? 90:50 It's kind of crazy. 90:51 I mean, I've seen ladies at the gym that wear essentially sheer pink, really small shorts 90:59 with no underwear on, and they're doing deadlifts. 91:03 And when they're bending over there sticking their vagina with the thinnest of cloth out into the air 91:09 Oh, I knew one of them was pregnant before she did 91:16 I have no problem with women dressing like that have fun 91:19 God bless you if you have a great body especially showed off to the world 91:23 Who cares and don't be afraid to admit that that's what you're doing because that's what guys do 91:27 Yeah, there's no reason to wear a sleeveless shirt versus a sleeve shirt in the gym 91:31 You're wearing this shirt because you want people to see your arms. 91:33 Show the guns. 91:34 Show the guns. 91:34 There's nothing wrong with that. 91:36 And I don't remember when I used to wear like skin tight stuff to, you know, show 91:39 off. 91:39 Who cares? 91:40 Who cares? 91:41 I don't care. 91:42 But I guess the word whore is what gets them. 91:46 Yeah. 91:46 I get it. 91:47 I get it. 91:48 You get upset. 91:48 Well, it's also because like real misogyny actually exists. 91:53 Like real women who hate or real men rather who hate women do exist. 91:58 And so when you see a guy joking around about a woman dressing like a whore you connect it to horrible 92:05 Thoughts like horrible actions like real actual evil men 92:09 Yes, that actually because like there's a lot of men that genuinely hate women Shane Gillis is not one of them 92:14 Right, and he's a great guy. It's just a joke 92:17 But but for some people those words and then you see like the word police people which is hilarious 92:23 We need to stop using that word. We're still using the word whore 92:26 like you're not great it's a great word it's a great word yeah it's a great 92:32 word for also yourself like like I freely admit that when I did like especially 92:38 the second iteration of fear factor is because I was being a whore they offered 92:43 me a fuckload of money to come back in like 2011 and host fear factor again and 92:47 I'm like I'm a whore let's go why not oh I would hold myself out for also for 92:52 far less yeah it's not I don't think it's a bad word I just think it has to be 92:58 used wisely and you know look it's one of the good things and bad things about 93:04 the internet is that everyone has an opinion yeah it's good it's good you 93:08 get to see it all play out see the see the chaos and hopefully the dust will 93:11 settle and this be some clarity and what's real and what's not real but 93:15 because of the echo chambers and bubbles that people live in online there 93:19 There won't be any clarity, you know, because everything is connected to an algorithm and 93:23 you're only interacting with people that agree with you and it's like, okay. 93:29 And yeah. 93:29 This is too complicated. 93:30 This is actually real or what's not real. 93:32 Well, that's a real problem. 93:33 Yeah. 93:34 And just forming your opinions on, like, I don't know, people are just so opinionated 93:38 to the point where, like, it's their identity, like their take on a certain topic. 93:43 That is who I am. 93:44 And every conversation I have, that's gonna come up. 93:47 And I hate those people. I do as well much and by the way, that's a new thing 93:52 Yeah, I'm older than you and when I was a kid that didn't exist 93:56 There were there what I mean, there were some people that were ideologically 94:00 They were ideologically connected to whatever the political party was right 94:04 But not to the extent that people are today where flavored every single opinion they have about every aspect of society 94:10 from paper straws to fucking electric cars to 94:15 to vaccines and healthcare and fucking everything. 94:20 Everything is connected politically. 94:22 And if you don't say something about it, 94:26 then you must be on the opposite side. 94:27 Silence is violence, Cody Tucker. 94:30 Silence is violence. 94:31 Yeah, like you're silent, 94:32 like, cause if I'm silent on something 94:34 that automatically means like, 94:35 I could be silent about it, 94:36 but still be on your side. 94:37 But no, like they believe that I'm silent. 94:39 I remember people getting mad at people 94:42 that didn't put a black square on their Instagram six. 94:46 Well yeah, because they didn't stop the violence. 94:50 They could have stopped it by doing that. 94:52 With a black square, it would have been nice. 94:54 The black square would have ended all the violence. 94:55 If the whole country just put up a black square, 94:58 it would have been over. 94:58 We could have moved into a new timeline. 95:01 Yeah, could have, but yeah, I know. 95:04 It's just that virtue signaling. 95:07 It is, and it's also this sort of evolution 95:10 of human thinking that's happening in real time, you know, with this, so you've got this thing, 95:16 the internet, that gives you immense resources and access to information, but then you also have 95:22 opinions that are inside this ecosystem that aren't even real. These are bots. Like, there's so 95:29 many bots. I read an article, there was an article in the New York Times about Elon Musk's 95:35 ex-girlfriend, you know, so there's the one that he offered, Ashley St. Clair, he offered 95:41 her allegedly, 40 million, she's his baby mama, right, so she has one of his babies. 95:48 And she offered him, or he offered her rather, allegedly, 40 million dollars to be quiet 95:54 and she said no, and she's blabbering to the world. 95:57 So she was at one point in time a right-wing influencer and now she is a part of the Democratic 96:04 Socialists of America. She's joined the DSA which is fast on the swing quiet swing 96:09 Always interesting when people do it complete 180. Yeah 96:15 But so this is article that's written in the New York Times and they post about it on Instagram 96:20 And I go into the comments. I go okay. I need to see you because I'm saying this is 96:26 Right for bots like this is gonna be a fucking bot farm like a hundred percent. It's all it was it was crazy 96:32 Is a lot of them are literally saying the same thing you just give it her a billion 96:36 Yeah, he's got a trillion dollars 96:38 He could just give it a billion she would have stayed quiet and you click on their page and there's no posts and there's 96:44 There's yeah, it's locked down. It's a private page 96:48 There you know, it's a name and a bunch of numbers like this is wild 96:53 This is like a fake outrage account, and there's a thousand of them that are posting on this 96:59 It's all the same thing. 97:00 I've had it happen. 97:01 I'm one of my videos. 97:03 I had to take it down because I was so lay. 97:05 I was like, what is happening right now? 97:06 Was there one about Henry Ford that I did about him being just a massive asshole and about 97:11 like his Nazi connections? 97:13 Interesting. 97:13 And it turned into a full, the Holocaust didn't happen. 97:16 Like it turned into that with thousands. 97:19 I mean, I've never like at that time had had anywhere near that kind of attraction. 97:23 I looked and I was like, it's like, God damn, that one's getting a lot of, 97:25 why is that getting so many views? 97:26 And our radium is like the numbers actually this it's not six million or like, you know, and it's just go 97:32 It's just constant and some of them were real or at least seem real because this is a real person saying this 97:38 Like what there are levels of sophistication when it comes to bots, especially today with AI they they generate one of things 97:45 You could tell is like how 97:48 Recent they the page started. 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That's promo code JRE or go to lifelock.com slash JRE for 30% 99:57 off terms apply, you know, levels of sophistication where you're not going to be able to discern 100:02 whether or not it's a real person commenting or not. 100:04 No, and you can have the whole world believe something just if you have enough money 100:07 to pay for enough bots. 100:08 Yes. 100:09 Because it's not even enough money. It's not expensive. That's what's crazy. You 100:13 That you could start a bot campaign fairly cheaply and and have a bunch of people think oh my god 100:19 People are really mad at Cody Tucker 100:20 Yeah, like you could really have people's and you could shift a lot of the casuals who are just barely paying attention 100:27 You could shift their perception on you. Yeah, and that's what they're trying to do 100:31 And they're certainly trying to do that with Elon, but this thing with do you think that was Ford Motor Company that was do this 100:37 No, no, no, there's just this massive rise in 100:42 Holocaust denial that's happened within just like the last couple of years or like any post 100:47 that has to do. I mean, a lot of it obviously has to do with like the Israel-Palestine conflict 100:51 and like Zionism and all this stuff. And then it's a lot of people who just like watch 100:57 like this one documentary that like disproves the Holocaust. And it's all that documentaries 101:04 all a bunch of like which documentaries that it's called like Europa, I think it's 101:08 like it's all hogwash none of it's real it's just this guy was a famous 101:14 Holocaust denier and now it's just become like the I don't know because it's 101:20 not even necessarily like a right wing versus left wing thing you know we're 101:23 like oh all the right wing people are Holocaust stars or you know vice versa 101:26 it's like it all it's like groups from everybody but it's all like from those 101:30 younger people like my age or younger yeah just don't think it happened you 101:36 You know what's also interesting too is that it's such a disgusting subject that no one 101:42 legitimate wants to debate someone who doesn't believe in the Holocaust. 101:46 Like you don't get like a legitimate scholar on World War II who wants to sit down and 101:52 have a conversation with someone who's a Holocaust in there. 101:54 It's like you don't platform those people. 101:56 And so because of that, like there's a lot of people go, oh, they're hiding the truth. 102:00 Right, right. 102:01 Yeah. 102:01 Who do you think wrote the textbooks? 102:03 It was the... 102:03 Right. 102:04 And then it's like, wow. 102:05 But yeah, they didn't, but OK. 102:08 What is their argument? 102:09 Their argument is that it's less number, 102:12 that the number's lower. 102:13 The number that pops up every single time is 200. 102:15 And that's why I started realizing it might be bots, 102:17 is because every one of them will seem 271,000. 102:21 Like every post, or 217,000 is one, too. 102:23 So they think that's the number. 102:25 How do they come to that? 102:27 Apparently, that's what, in the documentary, 102:29 that's what the guy comes to by crunching 102:33 the numbers on like the amount of Jews in the area or something I it's I don't 102:38 know right it's it's but it's absolutely absurd so do you think that's a foreign 102:43 country that is doing this bot attack like what do you think because like if 102:49 you were anti-Israel like if you were against Israel's policies and you were 102:53 a foreign country if you're whatever fill-in-the-blank Palestine Pakistan 102:57 whatever it is yeah you get some Muslim country that wants to fund some 103:02 sort of anti-Israel thing, and then you would go after the core reason why people have sympathy 103:09 for the Jews in modern society is because they were almost exterminated in Germany. 103:16 I mean, basically the reason Israel exists is because, you know, after the Holocaust. 103:21 Because of the Holocaust. 103:21 Yeah. 103:22 And, yeah, so that would be the way to do it. 103:25 I mean, and I just think there's a lot of people who, yeah, just believe it because 103:30 they read it on the Internet. 103:31 They see the meme saying blah blah blah and they just outright believe it. I think bots should be illegal 103:37 I really don't know 100% I don't care because I'm sure there's a lot of bots that follow me on 103:42 Fucking social. Oh, I know there. I mean, I don't know what the number is 103:45 But I'm sure I would guess it's probably about 25% let my number. I don't care my numbers drop 103:50 I don't care like if my money goes down get rid of it 103:53 Yeah, it's like you should I've always felt that you should have to have an ID 103:58 to be able to prove who you are to be able to create an account on any social media platform. 104:03 I agree. 104:04 Like, you know, I think there's like dating apps that do it, when you have to take a picture 104:07 of your ID and then you go through like a vetting process, that should be the same 104:12 with Instagram, Facebook. 104:14 The problem with that is whistleblowers. 104:16 And I think that there is a legit argument that, especially if you're like an Edward 104:22 Snowden or, you know, Chelsea Manning type person who has access to information that 104:27 is highly classified, but you don't want to reveal your identity, but people need to 104:33 know. 104:33 Like there's a crime being committed on the American people or the people of the world 104:37 or whatever. 104:38 You know, the whistleblower thing, protections for whistleblowers was a key part of the 104:44 Obama campaign when he was running for office, was protection for whistleblowers. 104:48 Meanwhile, he was like one of the worst people right now ever. There was a president which is kind of funny 104:53 Yeah, but that's that they also even removed that part from the hope and change website 104:58 So the hope and change website had this whole thing about whistleblowers 105:03 Deleted that 105:07 But so that's the argument against having to show identification is that it's probably important that some people be able to post anonymous 105:16 because there's like very powerful people that would try to take them out right 105:21 no no I do believe in like anonymity for like whistleblowers it's just but like 105:25 how do you do that and then also have an ID to post no you can't but I mean you 105:31 just whistleblow the old-fashioned way and just write it to a newspaper that 105:35 only about 40 people are gonna read now because nobody reads newspapers 105:39 unfortunately you can't even count on the newspaper printing that well no 105:42 depending upon what you're revealing and what ideology would be opposed to that 105:49 and whether or not this newspaper ascribes to that ideology yeah yeah yeah 105:54 yeah I mean which that's kind of always been a problem too but if you went back 105:57 to like you know the all the presidents men you know watergate stuff like at 106:03 least you know they were able to do that well that was one of the most 106:05 disturbing things about Elon purchasing Twitter was when they let like Michael 106:11 Schellenberger, Matt Ibe, and all these journalists review the emails that were with the executives 106:19 at Twitter were in contact with the intelligence agencies, and that the intelligence agencies 106:24 were actively censoring accounts, were directing them to remove accounts. 106:29 They were posting factual information, but that was inconvenient towards the COVID policies 106:36 of the Biden administration. 106:37 So, they were actively censoring legitimate scientists from Stanford, MIT, like legit 106:43 people, and they were like, uh-uh, ban them, take them off. 106:47 They didn't fit in with, you know, whatever. 106:48 Yeah. 106:49 Yeah. 106:50 I mean, there's, I don't know if there's really any real right way of going about any, 106:54 I mean, we may be doing it the best, the most right way that it could be done, 106:58 but that's terrifying if that's true. 107:00 I don't. 107:01 Well, I think there has to be a way to tell if something is a bot and you should have some 107:08 sort of filters in your system, at least to mitigate the bots, to get to a point where 107:15 you can't just have a letter and a name and a bunch of fucking numbers and have 50,000 107:21 of those accounts and bomb on someone's account because Henry Ford was a Nazi. 107:26 Or just, well I guess I don't work either, I was saying like just have it where you're 107:32 vetted and then only people who have been vetted can comment, but at the same time, that doesn't 107:37 necessarily work because if a person's a whistleblower, you have the next problem. 107:39 Right, that's the problem. 107:41 Yeah, the problem is the anonymity is important when you're revealing something, especially 107:46 when you're revealing something about a government or corporation where they can whack you. 107:51 You know, it's like, I think, God, I don't want to say it, but I think the best 107:56 way to do is just ignore their comments and just let them but there's a bunch of 108:00 people who don't do that and it does artificially alter public opinion on 108:05 things yeah yeah which is that was why I'd like for that post I just took it down 108:10 because I'm not gonna go through and sift out all these comments did you think 108:13 about just banning the comments just blocking oh disabled comments oh no not 108:19 until right now that might have been the best way to do it because it's an 108:24 I remember that post. Yeah, it was an interesting post. Yeah, does it exist anymore anywhere? Wow? Wow, they got me 108:31 They got I know I was infiltrated. Maybe that's how the the people that are 108:38 Pro Holocaust narrative do it. They put in so many scumbags that if you agree to like if you follow 108:45 What they're saying you're a terrible person. Yes, people don't want to do that 108:49 That's so they're shaming you 108:51 Yeah for posting it 108:54 It's wild. 108:55 It's not good. 108:56 Yeah, no, I probably should have just taken out the comments, but I don't really know. 108:59 How bad was Henry Ford, though? 109:01 It's just not a good person overall. 109:03 Is this it? 109:03 Oh! 109:05 Where does it exist? 109:06 YouTube Shorts. 109:07 Oh, YouTube Shorts. 109:08 YouTube Shorts. 109:09 Oh! 109:09 Let's put the heads on. 109:10 Do you want to check the comments? 109:11 Start from the beginning. 109:12 Oh, you should, actually. 109:13 That'd be pretty funny. 109:14 Start from the beginning. 109:14 Here we go. 109:20 When I pressed... 109:21 Henry Ford revolutionized the automobile industry with his moving assembly line allowing 109:26 for the manufacturing of the Model T to go from 12 hours per car to 90 minutes per car. 109:33 At that point, they were making 10,000 Model T's a day. He also doubled his employees wages 109:39 and basically created a new middle class in America. Despite all of this, Henry Ford was also 109:45 a massive anti-Semite. In 1920, Henry Ford began publishing a weekly magazine called 109:51 the international Jew, the world's problem. Henry Ford's views on the Jewish population 109:57 struck a nerve with a young man in Austria, who included Henry Ford in his manifesto, 110:03 Mein Kampf. Henry Ford was the only American complimented in that book written by a young 110:09 Adolf Hitler. Henry Ford even received the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, 110:14 the highest German award for foreigners by Adolf Hitler himself. 110:18 itself. That's wild. Click on the comments, please. Yeah. Let's go. Here we go. What does 110:25 this say here? Oh, for a second one, Henry Ford, a man ahead of time. I bet they're not 110:30 talking about the first part. It always feels like we've forgotten more than we remember. 110:34 Thank you. I live in Detroit, and ooh boy, is this topic taboo. I wonder why. The iron 110:40 ease whenever the war broke out, the same Henry Ford revolutionized the manufacturing 110:44 of warplanes, other admirers of that little 110:49 mustache Austrian painter were Disney, 110:52 King Edward VIII, Duke of Windsor, Wallace Simpson, 110:57 and, yeah, Charles Lindbergh, was a massive, 110:59 yeah, Charles Lindbergh, was a massive Nazi, yeah. 111:02 Whoa! 111:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 111:03 No way! 111:04 Mm-hmm. 111:06 So this isn't as bad. 111:07 Oh, this one's nowhere near as bad. 111:09 It seems like, stop, stop, stop, stop, 111:10 let's go back up, some of these seem like bots. 111:17 yeah I mean Ford was I don't know none of it was a great man I mean the my type of 111:22 guy thing is very yeah yeah it could be shit posters well yeah which I think 111:28 that's a lot of it too yeah who knows who knows it's got a Lionel Richie in his 111:34 fucking that's his image is it longer so it seems like it's more of a social 111:39 media thing than a YouTube thing where the comments were got a lot of those 111:43 seem like bots. 111:44 Yeah, they do. 111:45 Look at these names with all the, 111:46 when you see names like that, with a bunch of numbers behind it. 111:49 I have so much more respect for Henry now. 111:52 That's the one, yeah. 111:53 So at the top, yeah. 111:54 But these are definitely nowhere near as bad, I mean. 111:59 Nowhere near as bad, but the same thing. 112:01 I have more respect for him. 112:02 And look at what it is. 112:04 It's the same thing. 112:05 It's these names with a bunch of numbers. 112:07 Yeah. 112:08 Yeah, almost all of them are. 112:10 There was an article we've referenced 112:12 many times, where a former FBI analyst was looking at Twitter before Elon Musk purchased 112:19 it and he determined that it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 80% bots. 112:25 Really? 112:26 Because they were trying to say that it was 5%. 112:28 And they did that by a 100 post random sampling. 112:34 So they just randomly got, allegedly randomly. 112:36 But if you're trying to sell something for $4 billion or whatever you paid for 112:40 it. 112:40 Is it 40 billion what do you pay for it for Twitter something crazy? 112:45 44 billion so if you're selling something for 44 billion the last thing you want to do is 112:50 Find out that it's mostly just robots right yelling into the abyss. Yeah 112:55 Or but this CIA guy or this FBI guy said he estimated at the high end. It's in the 80% I 113:03 Mean that seems so high, but probably but it makes sense though probably right 113:08 Yeah, if you think about it that's the town hall and propaganda has always been a thing 113:12 You know distributing leaflets putting propaganda films out all those that's always been a thing. So why wouldn't you? 113:20 Why wouldn't you utilize like the greatest vehicle of propaganda the world has ever seen and just have an army of people comment on things? 113:30 Make sense. Yeah, manufactured outrage. Yes, which is what most things are now. It's like manufactured outrage or manufactured 113:39 fandom like I feel like most things that are so popular now there's no way 113:43 that's authentic like what kind of stuff like certain movies will make just an 113:47 astronomical amount of money I don't think that many people want to see that 113:51 movie like the new Spider-Man movie that brand new day it's like broke every 113:54 record who the hell went to go see that you'd be amazed people love superhero 114:00 like the L. O. Langley you know that means that song nothing against her 114:03 nothing else the song but it's like baiting all these records like I 114:06 I don't know a single person who's sitting around listening to that, but maybe I'll listen to that song. 114:10 I like it. She'll go to a bar on 6th Street. 114:13 Okay. Is it really? 114:14 Well, that actually makes it popular. 114:16 Yeah, maybe it makes it. 114:17 I think maybe I'm just, I'm not the best person to even talk about that kind of stuff, 114:21 because I'm in a dang one person bubble. 114:23 Yeah, you're in a bubble. 114:24 Have you ever seen her? 114:26 There's a film of her, a video of her getting ready to go on stage, 114:30 and she's walking through the backstage area, 114:33 and that song, Staying Alive, is playing, 114:35 And she's dancing it does a little kicks it's up. Yeah very compelling. It is it's how isn't it weird how that video is so 114:43 Captivating because I've watched it so yeah here. Yes. I'm gonna buy this video one. Oh because it's on yeah 114:49 Yeah, I'll not know 114:52 I'll talk to you later. Okay 114:56 You want to just tell me now and edit it out what UNL cool j 114:59 Reciting the lyrics to go back to Cali got flagged. Oh 115:03 That's how the flags work. 115:04 It's like you recited the lyrics. 115:06 Oh my god, these fucking criminals. 115:09 Was he reciting them? 115:10 Yeah, both of them. 115:10 Yeah, both of us, as long as you got it. 115:12 But he probably doesn't own the... 115:14 No, it doesn't. 115:15 It's not. 115:15 It's just the flag itself. 115:18 That's fucking bananas. 115:19 Bananas. 115:20 Wow. 115:21 It's a weird world we're living in, man. 115:23 Yes. 115:24 If you hum a song, like, you know that song? 115:29 Is it, I'm not gonna say it. 115:31 Talk about songs anymore. Is it the is it the the lyrics is it sunshine of my life? 115:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it doesn't a lot negative. I do that all the time like whenever I think about someone like really high on drugs 115:44 I always like make that noise if you can't well. I'll make it real quick and then we'll edit it right here. We go 115:50 So kind of your love. Yeah, so cream so cream right so when 115:56 If you do that on a podcast they'll flag you just do that that's so crazy 116:01 Crazy. 116:02 Crazy. 116:03 Oh my God. 116:04 Crazy. 116:04 I'm amazed mine hasn't because I have a movie podcast and one of our categories is called 116:10 Created and Weep where we, you have to place the Creed song, arguably the greatest song 116:15 ever written, My Own Prison by Creed somewhere in the movie where you put it and we always 116:20 end up singing the song but never gets to one. 116:22 They probably haven't got you yet. 116:24 They'll find you. 116:25 We do a good job. 116:26 They're going to get you now. 116:27 Yeah. 116:27 Now that you're talking about it here they're going to get you. 116:29 I know. 116:29 Yeah, I shouldn't have mentioned that 116:33 Choosing Texas song is huge. No it is like there's something about this world that is so chaotic 116:40 That it has made simplicity much more attractive and country music is making a giant comeback. Oh my god a huge resurgence 116:49 Yes, it's because people want like they want to be by the river with a pickup truck and with you know 116:57 just having a good time and praising Jesus and they they want simplicity they 117:02 want things to be clearly defined and they want to take away the anxiety of 117:07 the unknown because the anxiety the unknown is looming over us constantly 117:12 like a fog like that that giant sky demon from stranger things yeah you know 117:18 that fucking thing that's like looming that's what our future our 117:23 uncertain future and this technological hell that we have unleashed on the world 117:30 and that there's a lot of people that they long for the opposite of that they 117:34 long for Yellowstone they long for cowboy shows they long for things to be 117:39 simple that's a bit no I do agree with that where people just want to have 117:42 land and people want to occupy their land and they want to you know raise 117:48 families on their land there's that's like 90% of homesteadings yeah and but I 117:55 think with music though it's kind of interesting because like I mean you could 117:58 kind of say that about any time like the 60s when was there ever a more like what
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