How to build abundantly

Why is building affordable housing so hard these days? We talk to author Derek Thompson about his new book with Ezra Klein, Abundance , about what they believe is keeping affordable housing out of reach in high-income cities. Related: How big is the US housing shortage? ( Apple / Spotify ) How California's speed rail was always going to blow out ( Apple / Spotify ) Why building public transit costs so much For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org . Fact-checking by Sierra Juarez . Music by Drop Electric . Find us: TikTok , Instagram , Facebook , Newsletter . Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy