Support The Glenn Show at https://glennloury.substack.com Video Links 0:00 Charles’s new book, Taking Religious Seriously 8:31 Why Charles finds the idea of divine creation plausible 13:54 Charles’s “road to Damascus” moment 19:25 The appeal of Christianity 24:51 The evidence for life after death 31:38 Charles: “The relative positions of science and religion have flipped” 36:42 The trouble with scientism 40:17 Glenn’s steps toward and away from religion 51:04 Was The Bell Curve putting making a deterministic argument? Recorded November 4, 2025 Links and Readings Charles’s new book, Taking Religious Seriously Charles’s book, Losing Ground: American Social Policy, 1950-1980 Richard Herrnstein and Charles’s book, The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life Charles’s book, Human Diversity: The Biology of Gender, Race, and Class Charles’s book, Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010 Martin Rees’s book, Just Six Numbers: The Deep Forces That Shape the Universe James Q. Wilson’s book, The Moral Sense C.S. Lewis’s book, Mere Christianity Raymond Moody’s book, Life after Life: A Groundbreaking Exploration of Near-Death Experiences and the Transformative Insights into the Afterlife, Backed by Scientific Study and Personal Testimonies Steven Pinker’s book, The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe