The Church We Dream Of

The Church We Dream Of is a faith-based podcast for those longing to see healthier, more honest expressions of the church. Hosted by Kia Gutiérrez—a marriage and family therapist, ministry leader, and voice in church leadership—this podcast explores the intersection of faith, emotional intelligence, and trauma-informed care within Christian communities.Blending conversations around church leadership, church wounds, and real-life ministry dynamics, this is a space for deeper reflection—