There’s something RIGHT with human nature, says historian Rutger Bregman
Episode Ep 51 27 min 24s

There’s something RIGHT with human nature, says historian Rutger Bregman

There’s only one problem with the widely-held belief that humans are fundamentally amoral and selfish, says Dutch historian RUTGER BREGMAN: it’s rubbish. His new book Humankind: A Hopeful History argues that the record shows humanity’s superpower is its unique aptitude for altruism and co-operation. He tells Andrew Harrison why everything from Lord Of The Flies to the story of the Blitz is teaching us to draw the wrong conclusions about the human race – and explains who benefits from spreading the myth of human selfishness.


  • “Catastrophes bring out the best in people”
  • “Individual humans are not all that smart or strong – but we can cooperate on the level no other species can match.”
  • “The idea that most people are pretty decent is actually a revolutionary idea.”
  • “Cynicism is a form of laziness.”


Presented and produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production.


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