Knowing XI, Knowing EU: Why Europe is naive to trust China
Episode Ep 937 22 min 56s

Knowing XI, Knowing EU: Why Europe is naive to trust China

China’s relationship with Europe is…difficult. But some leaders, like Emmanuel Macron, see China as a conduit for peace in Ukraine. But can Europe really trust China to negotiate with Russia? Philippe Le Corre, a senior fellow at the Asia Society Policy Institute’s Center for China Analysis, sat down with Alex Andreou to discuss just that.


  • “The current situation, which is close to a cold war you might say, will not bring China closer to the West.”
  • “Whenever you talk to Chinese officials they will tell you that China is growing; you better get used to it.”
  • “It’s unacceptable for China to say this is not our war, we have nothing to do with this.”



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