How to be Home Secretary with Alan Johnson

What would Alan Johnson do differently if he was in Suella Braverman’s shoes? The former Home Secretary, who held the post from 2009 to 2010, gives his take on the current crises – and sets the record straight on which party really handles crime better out of Labour and the Tories.

• “Suella is taking on the Priti Patel mantle… talking about the problems but doing nothing to resolve them.”
• “It’s the Tories who have really failed on crime and borders.”
• “When you’re 12 years in you can no longer blame the last Labour government.”
• “We need the relations with Macron to be really good, because that’s part of the problem.”

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Presented by Arthur Snell. Producers: Jet Gerbertson. Assistant Producer: Kasia Tomasiewicz. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production: Alex Rees. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production

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