Behind the Screens: Inside the mind of a hacker

Our view of hackers has been warped by movie portrayals of hoodie-wearing computer whizzes. But what are they really like? These keyboard bashers have uncovered some of the world's darkest secrets – and even come close to destroying the internet. But why do they do it? Scott Shapiro searches for answers in his new book Fancy Bear Goes Phishing: The Dark History of the Information Age, in Five Extraordinary Hacks. He joins Dorian Lynskey in The Bunker.

• “The hackers that I’ve spoken to, they’re by and large normal, psychologically speaking.” – Scott Shapiro.
• “Any time there’s a hack, people say “It’s a nation-state, it’s Russia” it’s a reflex.” – Scott Shapiro.
• “People don't like to talk about when they’ve been hacked, because it’s embarrassing.” – Scott Shapiro.
• “There are a lot of mistaken stereotypes about hackers, one is the romance of a lone wolf.” – Scott Shapiro.
• “Security analysts hate the word hacker.” – Scott Shapiro.

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Written and presented by Dorian Lynskey. Producer: Kasia Tomasiewicz

Audio production: Simon Williams Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production

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