Alastair Campbell on fighting populism, his mistakes and the Brexit fallout

Alastair Campbell has a plan to fix the crisis in our politics. Andrew Harrison talks to one of politics’ most controversial figures about where our democracies are going wrong, the poison of populism, the long shadow of Iraq, why Boris Johnson was so dangerous, and his new book But What Can I Do? Why Politics Has Gone So Wrong And How Can You Help Fix It.

• “In my lifetime, most politicians have genuinely been trying to wrestle with problems. Populists try to exploit those problems.”
• “You can’t be a leader without some moral compass. Johnson was chaotic, he didn’t manage people, he didn’t really care. He is not a serious person.”
• “I was aggressive at times and I wanted the media to understand that if they stepped over a line, I was going to call them out.”
• “There are some people that will never accept what I say is true.”

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Written and presented by Andrew Harrison. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production: Simon Williams. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production

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