Reading Sydney Noir, finding plague pits in the backyard with Minette Walters, Anne Summers on fiction and new journalism and Sally Rippin's bookshelf

A podcast extra edition of the Bookshelf in which Cassie talks Sydney Noir with John Dale, Mandy Sayer and Mark Dapin; Kate talks to children's author Sally Rippin about the bookshelf that made her; Minette Walters has plague pits in her backyard, and Anne Summers talks about the writing strategies and impact of the New Journalism