What happens when two heavyweight scientists can only speak about classified government projects under senatorial approval? Dr. Joseph Resnick and Guy Kramer join Art to discuss HAARP experiments and ionospheric research, though their conversation comes with unusual restrictions. The guests hold patents they cannot discuss and required approval at the senatorial level just to appear. Art explores HAARP's potential effects on the ionosphere and its possible connection to mysterious atmospheric phenomena like TIGER (Transient Ionospheric Glow Emission in Red), which appears hundreds of milliseconds after lightning strikes at distances that suggest no natural correlation. With classified information hanging in the balance and scripts that Art refuses to follow, this interview reveals as much through what cannot be said as what can. The evening becomes a careful dance around government secrecy while probing one of the most controversial atmospheric research programs ever created.
