Slapping Industries

Show notes

• Listener points out Dave said to slap him in Episode 255 if he ever said he was getting a pick and place. Dave stated as much in episode #610
• Dave posted a bunker tour and clean up video on Odyssey
• 10 cent micro showed up to Chris's lab (discussed in #610)
• The tooling has a windows focus, the toolchain is called MounRiver. There is some OpenOCD tooling specifically for it.
• GitHub repos open a web based VScode window when you hit "." (period). You need to be logged in.
• Discussion on embedded.fm 435 about GitHub codespaces
• Christmas lights
• Arduino is targeting the industrial market with the Opta "microPLC". They will have ladder logic for this device.
• John Davis was on episode 385 talking about the difficulties of working in a machine building environment.
• A new part from Sony/Altair, the ALT1350, looks like it has EVERYTHING in it: Cellular, GPS, WiFi (hotspot finding only), 2.4GHz / 802.15.4, sub Gig. So many radios!
• Lock teardowns
• Artemis
• The Grid (book)

Automated transcript

00:19.99 Dave Welcome to the amp hour I'm Dave Jones from the EeV blog

00:24.37 chrisgammell And I’m Chris Gammell of the slapping industries because I am supposed to be slapping you.

00:30.24 Dave Well oh I know what this is about right? Thank you to the person who put this on who do who did who put it on the silly lie and yeah, thank you very much got the most up votes. Yeah, go ahead. Do it do it. Although I haven’t technically got 1

00:36.26 chrisgammell Ah, five days ago yeah this is this this silly lion.

00:43.43 chrisgammell Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay here we go here. We go ladies and gentlemen in the light of last week’s episode I just wanted to say that in episode number two fifty five at timestamp Fifty Six Twenty Dave says that quote.

00:47.77 Dave So you know and.

01:00.31 chrisgammell You ever hear me utter. The the words I’m contemplating getting a pick in place just you know slap me. Thank you and happy holidays. Fantastic! What a great callback? Yeah yeah there we go all right? all It’s okay, yeah.

01:07.57 Dave Ah, ah, ah or cheese and ah oh I think I’ve come to my senses I well was I thinking. Ah oh boy. Yeah, um, so yeah, so trust some nerd to remember.

01:20.52 chrisgammell And yeah, well I mean that’s I have to wonder like were they just now listening were they to listen to it recently or they have like photographic memory. Yeah, right, Very impressive.

01:25.78 Dave Right? Remember Well did they actually pull that out of their memory bank I wouldn’t surprise me if they pulled that out of their memory bank because I can still say oh yeah I can remember that in in you know, an episode ah episode and a copy of.

01:44.83 chrisgammell And yeah, yeah, it probably means that they they they had something in their memory that they they’re like yeah I really would like to see Dave slapped.

01:45.10 Dave Electronicks Australia Magazine back in 1985 there was this article that said blah blah blah blah blah you know like I can probably pull that out of my ass. But.

01:57.77 Dave Right? Slap me right? Yeah possibly Yep yep I don’t know I’d like ah I don’t know what triggered it I don’t know.

02:04.26 chrisgammell Ah.

02:09.15 chrisgammell What the the urge to get a I think it is completely natural I Think here’s here’s the thing the ah the I think the journey often goes like this.

02:10.15 Dave The ah the the lust for a pick and yeah, the urge to get a pick and place machine I don’t right.

02:21.58 chrisgammell Ah I’m so frustrated if only I could just build you know like ah these boards are taking so long to build if I’m sending them out or they’re taking so long to build if I have them in-house. All I just needed is some robot to do this. It would be so easy if a robot would do this and the answer is yeah of course it would if it was perfect but it it just sucks you know like even you know even the ones.

02:26.95 Dave There. All right? and and then you start realizing that it’s oh it’s only five bucks a board to get your board assembled or whatever right insert symbol here like and insert your assembly figure.

02:41.15 chrisgammell Yeah. Sure sure yeah.

02:48.61 Dave There right? Yeah, but let’s just say five bucks to assemble aboard you go like well how do you justify $10000 pick and place machine and all the infinite amount of time and energy required to run it and massage it and maintain it and pull your hair out and learn it and you know and.

02:56.98 chrisgammell Yes.

03:03.51 chrisgammell Yeahp I think it’s it’s really that like the idea of like the drop of the hat you know I always talk about like the 2 a m problem and like if you had a thing at 2 am yeah you know like this would be super super useful, but most people I feel like do not have that and the ones that do you know.

03:06.68 Dave Yeah, right? yep.

03:20.10 Dave Yeah, oh yeah, of course well I think part of my motivation is that it would and part of the inspiration is that I think it might motivate me into doing actual designs and getting them assembled.

03:21.50 chrisgammell It’s probably faster cheaper to just pay for overnight service like from a actual assembly house. So I think it’s.

03:37.50 chrisgammell M.

03:39.21 Dave Right? because I’ve if I’ve got the capability there I go oh here’s an idea for I could sell a couple hundred of these boards you know? and yeah, why not just do this and then just right.

03:41.56 chrisgammell And yeah I I I don’t I don’t agree with that for myself I think that’s like the the buying a buying a treadmill in order to start running I think really I should just go outside and start running. Yeah.

03:54.21 Dave Right? Okay, yeah, yeah, you should just and do it but I’m sort of a bit and unusual Caseian I’ve got a large audience who will you know look if I came up with some little widget that you know I could probably like sell and distribute a couple of hundred of them. That’s that’s that’s no problem I think so you know.

04:00.40 chrisgammell Sure sure I think.

04:09.41 chrisgammell I’m sure you could yeah of course of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I’m not saying that I’m saying that you should if you were actually serious about that you should build 2 little widgets first. Yeah yeah.

04:13.85 Dave Yeah I should build the widgets first and then and then figure and well maybe I should do that. Maybe I should build the maybe I should build a couple of widgets in anticipation of getting a pick and place machine right? And then I haven’t ready to go. Yeah.

04:24.64 chrisgammell A exactly right? because and there’s