This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Phillip Jackson and Brian Lange from the Future Commerce podcast. What is the future of art in an AI world? Do we need more friction in our lives? Should AI feel shame? Listen to Future Commerce: https://www.futurecommerce.com/episodes 00:00 Introduction to Phil and Brian 01:46 Blank launch party 05:52 OpenAI’s Studio Ghibli marketing ploy 11:45 All that we’re left with is aura 19:27 The value of the art is the creator 25:00 Losing control of the environment art is observed 29:29 Our shitty robot future 36:14 An Industrial Revolution for the minds 39:23 Online shopping can diminish creativity 51:50 The future of mobility is textiles 55:28 Cultural change requires calamity 01:01:47 Has frictionless gone too far? __ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.