This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Charlie Baker, editor of The Fence, a quarterly print magazine (and weekly newsletter) focused on life in the UK and Ireland. The Fence: https://www.the-fence.com Capital Letter: https://thefencecapitalletter.substack.com/ 00:00 Introducing Charlie Baker and The Fence 01:51 The value exchange of a podcast appearance 07:48 The Fence's unique and historic office space 13:41 The Capital Letter: London's only newsletter 20:52 Cultural exchange between the US and UK is growing 23:47 Increasing London pub coverage 27:54 London's entrepreneurial energy is rising 29:26 Did ye hear mammy died? 32:50 Defining the quintessential Fence story 36:06 The most important job of an editor 41:00 Publishing is an act of optimism 47:39 The loneliness of leadership Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.