Daisy and Francis are joined by Jad Esber, founder and CEO of Koodos Labs, a product and research company focused on the next generation of the internet. Koodos Labs is the creator of Shelf. Shelf: www.shelf.im Jad: https://x.com/Jad_AE 00:00 Night Life 02:20 Daisy smells like a donut 08:33 Inverting the internet's personal data model 14:47 Understanding the concept of data gravity 19:56 The algorithms influence on interpersonal relationships 30:53 Shelf: Your aggregator for taste 39:00 The difficulties of tracking physical media consumption 44:01 Connecting through shared media consumption 50:40 The balance of friction and meaningful engagement Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.
