MAGA - Trump trumps Harris

Comedy writer Armando Iannucci and journalist Helen Lewis decode the utterly baffling world of political language.

This week, Trump has made his way back to the White House, but will he Make America Great Again? What does that phrase really mean? And how did it become the enduring political message of our times?

Helen and Armando examine how political reporters struggle to get answers, and what the effect of this election campaign will have on political language for years to come.

A longer version, where Helen theorises on wrestling's impact on the world of politics, and Armando confesses the role he played in securing Trump's victory, is available on BBC Sounds

Have you stumbled upon any perplexing political phrases you need Helen and Armando to decode? Email them to us at [email protected]

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