In this energising and honest conversation, Emma and Carbon Literacy Project co-founder Phil Korbel dive into what truly makes carbon literacy impactful. Spoiler: it’s not just about what you know, it’s about how you apply it, talk about it, and make it real in your organisation. From training Nobel-adjacent scientists in Antarctica to working with major corporations facing internal resistance, Emma and Phil share practical insights, surprising lessons, and powerful encouragement for anyone looking to move climate action from the margins to the mainstream. Whether you're a seasoned sustainability professional or just carbon-curious, this episode is a masterclass in meeting people where they are, and bringing them with you. Here are the highlights: 0:00 Introduction to Phil and his Journey 06:00 The Birth of the Carbon Literacy Project 11:59 Challenges in sustainability Training 17:50 Balancing Climate Awareness with Mental Health 23:00 Empowering Others Through Peer Training 25:00 Curiosity and Learning in Climate Change 28:00 Building a Community of Trainers 29:00 Scaling Carbon Literacy Training 33:00 The Role of Governance in Sustainability Projects 36:00 Overcoming Resistance to Carbon Literacy 40:00 Trends and Future Directions in Carbon Literacy Connect with Carbon Literacy Project & Phil: Website Phil Korbel - LinkedIn Connect with Emma: Website Email Emma Burlow - LinkedIn Book an enquiry call with Emma https://calendly.com/emma-lighthouse/20min Book Carbon Literacy Training for yourself or colleagues Upcoming Courses | Lighthouse Sustainability
