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Book with Southwest and 1:38 enter airplane mode. Experience award-winning reliability. Fly with the best crew in the sky 1:44 and never worry about change or cancellation fees. Now tell that old lady to slow down. 1:51 Kids live around here. Southwest Airlines enter airplane mode. 1:55 My sister just texted me. I gotta look this up. 2:06 She says, I have my 40th reunion next Friday. 2:10 What the hell do I wear? 2:12 Well, I don't know. 2:14 You should probably wear something real sexy, 2:17 and you should also probably wear a smile. 2:19 And I hope all you are wearing a smile, 2:21 because it's in a whole new smart list. 2:23 Smart. 2:40 I get to host you two ding-dongs tonight at the house. 2:43 You're coming over for dinner. 2:45 Oh, yeah, that's right. 2:45 I don't I don't think you guys have ever been to my house for dinner 2:50 What are you talking about? I I don't think you guys have ever been to my house for dinner. You're totally joking 2:55 Well, of course Jason. What are you talking about? 2:58 Well, when is the last time then tell me when's the last time the two of you have come over to my house? 3:03 Well, I don't keep a record of it 3:05 But I've been there about 25,000 times for dinner. I don't think so not just for dinner like sitting around dinner 3:11 sitting around just for dinner. 3:12 It is a plan for you guys to come over for dinner. 3:15 It's, you know, it's always just sort of casual, you know. 3:17 Last year, I haven't done it, but we were, 3:18 everybody's away, but we did a movie night 3:21 one night last year. 3:22 Yeah, but see, that's it. 3:23 But it's with a bunch of other people 3:24 and it's kind of, you're sitting around in the kitchen 3:26 and you don't really, 3:27 Oh, no, just sitting down. 3:27 Oh, you mean like sitting down. 3:29 Don't sit down. 3:29 Yeah, that's true. 3:30 We, I've done it like maybe twice at your place 3:32 or once or twice. 3:33 Where was, where was I? 3:34 We always like stand in the kitchen. 3:35 It's always take out. 3:36 It's always take out. 3:37 Right? 3:38 Oh, yeah, well, that's true. 3:40 I've never. 3:40 This is not a complaint. 3:41 It's not a complaint. 3:42 I don't cook. 3:42 No, but I don't, do you? 3:44 Well, you guys, you guys don't cook. 3:45 No, I don't cook. 3:46 You have no idea how to cook, right? 3:47 No, I don't. 3:47 Sean, can you boil water? 3:49 I can, I make sloppy joes. 3:50 I just had tons of sloppy joes last week. 3:52 You did? 3:53 Yeah. 3:54 Oh. 3:54 And then you just spice it and make it chili? 3:57 What's the diff? 3:58 I used to do that at my school. 4:00 I'm ready to take sloppy joes. 4:01 I'm sloppy joes and the next day we have chili. 4:02 I'm like, hey man, I'm on you. 4:04 Okay, I know what's happening 4:06 Hey, wait, what's tonight? Did you guys talk to Amanda? What do we have in a night? I don't know. She didn't say she doesn't take you 4:13 Or Shawn, do you know Shawn, you know your dietary limitations? I have none. Why don't we have sushi delivered or something easy? 4:20 All right. All right. That's easy or or or easily expensive. Yeah. Why don't we just have gold bars delivered? 4:28 What do you, Sushi, what could I lie for you? 4:31 I know, what about pizza? 4:32 What about a lot of lobster? 4:35 What about pizza? 4:37 No, no. 4:37 I told you about the time, J.B., I told you about the time 4:38 I witnessed Sean eating lobster on a private jet, right? 4:42 No, no. 4:42 No, it was incredible. 4:43 And the dock? 4:44 It was in the dock. 4:45 No, not in the dock. 4:46 It was a different time when we went tonight. 4:47 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 4:48 And all of a sudden, and then I got a lift 4:52 and from these guys that I get on there 4:54 and then all of a sudden the person comes out 4:56 with the food. 4:56 You guys ready for lunch and I'll put the thing down and all of a sudden starts to bring him lobster 5:01 It was unbelievable 5:04 It was unbelievable 5:06 I just turned my morning around 5:10 Oh shit, okay good. I was just checking on this restart 5:13 Have we got a guest tonight or no? 5:15 I was panicking if I lost my notes 5:17 We are having dinner tonight so we can catch up later 5:20 Alright, wait, wait 5:22 And then, fuck, I think I may have lost my notes 5:25 on this restart, hold on, I've got my intro, 5:27 I've got my intro, and then we'll chat, 5:32 and you look for your notes. 5:33 No, no, here, okay, and then where are my notes? 5:36 God damn it, this is all Michael Grant Terry's fault. 5:39 It's got to be so much, I just somehow it's got to be his. 5:43 Michael Grant Terry, can I just talk about your notes? 5:45 Oh no, there it is, there's the notes. 5:46 All right guys, Rob and Bennett and Michael need it. 5:49 We haven't had it, but I've been, 5:51 I'm gonna burn a barbecue. 5:52 Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, yeah. 5:55 Michael, Bennett, and Rob greased the wheels on this thing. 5:58 They make it happen. 6:00 The trains keep the trains on time. 6:02 They do so much stuff. 6:03 They do so much for us. 6:05 He's our producer. 6:07 What a bunch of professionals. 6:09 Okay. 6:10 And I really appreciate it. 6:11 Okay, you're ready. 6:12 All right. 6:13 I was vamping, but I meant it. 6:14 All right, I mean it too. 6:16 I second all that praise. 6:17 Third, okay? 6:19 All right, here we come. 6:20 Guys, we have with us today a woman who has been a success in this business for over 30 years 6:26 and she's still going strong with multiple nominations and awards to her credit. 6:30 She's been working across film and television since she was a child. 6:34 Now, balancing acting with producing now, she's running her own production company. 6:38 No, she's set to have one of her biggest projects ever released this October. 6:43 It's massive, massive. 6:45 She has climbed Mount Kilimanjaro. 6:48 She's sung at the Hollywood Bowl, Sean. 6:49 She's a level six trained gymnast, Will. 6:53 What? 6:53 You met her on 7th Heaven. 6:54 You rooted for her in Texas Chainsaw Massacre 6:56 and you're about to ride with her 6:58 in the blockbuster matchbox this fall. 7:02 Guys, it's Kim and John's girl, Jessica Beale. 7:05 Woo! 7:06 Hi, guys. 7:09 Jessica, thanks for coming on. 7:11 Yeah. 7:12 It's so nice to meet you. 7:12 Guys, thank you so much for having me. 7:14 It's so nice to meet you too. 7:14 I'm nervous. 7:15 My heart is pounding. 7:16 I feel like if I had to take a polygraph test, 7:18 I would I would yeah. No. Hey, I'm excited to see that movie. I watch that trailer this morning. Wait. Tell me 7:23 What is it? Matchbox the movie. No way. Yeah, dude. It's like that's a fast and furious you like that 7:30 You're gonna love this. Oh, wow. That's a put based on the Hasbro thing. Yeah. Yeah, or Mattel. Mattel. Sorry, Mattel 7:40 I used to play that all the time. Me too. It looks so great. I love John Cena 7:45 I know, he's so fun actually, loved working with him. 7:50 He's a dog. 7:50 Yeah, he's great. 7:51 Now, let me ask you a question. 7:52 I bet you got a million times in the junket 7:54 if you've already done that. 7:56 And if you haven't, you're going to. 7:57 Are you a fast driver yourself? 7:59 No, I am an old lady defensive driver, slow. 8:03 Really? 8:03 I've got kids in the car. 8:05 I live on a dirt road. 8:06 I've got all of it. 8:07 I've got like a seat lifter that keeps my butt 8:11 from getting tired and, you know how your butt 8:15 It falls asleep, basically. 8:18 I'm a very, I'm a slow old lady driver. 8:22 But then when we did the movie, 8:23 I got to learn all this cool performance driving 8:25 and now I want a muscle car. 8:27 And you did that? 8:28 Did they train you? 8:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 8:30 Really? 8:30 Wow. 8:31 It was so fun. 8:31 Okay, talk to us about that 8:32 because I've done a little bit of that. 8:33 That's very, very fun stuff. 8:35 It was so much fun. 8:36 I mean, that is the best part of our job, right? 8:38 We're getting to learn these cool, weird skills 8:42 that you may never get to learn. 8:43 And I got to learn how to, you know, stop a car on its mark, 8:48 like put the right back wheel on a mark. 8:51 It's called the sandbag. 8:52 Yeah, yes. 8:54 And slide it and then stop it. 8:56 Do a 180 and stop it. 8:58 Do a 360 and stop it right on the mark. 9:00 Oh my God, that's advanced. 9:02 I did it. 9:03 I don't know if I can do it now. 9:04 You need the right car. 9:05 I think that is what I realized is like 9:07 these performance cars that we were driving, 9:09 they do exactly what you asked them to do. 9:13 It's on your real- 9:15 I bet you'd be able to do it in a GMC of your choice. 9:18 It's a professional grade engineer. 9:20 Sure. 9:22 Isn't it about like the timing of the brake 9:24 and the emergency brake or whatever? 9:26 And like it's a lot of coordination, yeah? 9:29 Well, the cars that I was driving, 9:31 which is why it would be hard to just do it 9:33 in a regular car as I was using pedals. 9:35 So I had, I wasn't, it wasn't an emergency brake. 9:39 Like it was a clutch, there was another, 9:42 there was multiple pedals, it was like a car. 9:43 So you were driving stick, 9:44 were you driving stick shift, car? 9:46 This one was not a stick shift. 9:48 Do you know how to drive a stick shift? 9:49 I do know how to drive a stick shift, yeah. 9:51 Yeah, me too. 9:51 It's fun. 9:52 It's a lot of start. 9:53 It is. 9:53 They don't make it anymore. 9:54 They don't make stick shift anymore. 9:56 At all? 9:57 At all. 9:57 I don't think so. 9:58 I think you have to like special order it. 10:00 They might, like people like Porsche 10:01 must still make those. 10:03 I believe it is you have to really specify it. 10:07 But you know, 10:08 I was gonna say, Sean, you said something or Jason, 10:10 you said maybe Tracy would be interested to know this. 10:13 Any, oftentimes when you see people in film or TV 10:16 pulling in a car or whatever, 10:19 oftentimes what you don't know is that they're rolling 10:20 into a sandbag, as Jason said, 10:23 as sort of like to help them find- 10:24 So can stay in the frame. 10:25 So can stay in the frame so they have it 10:27 because they have a hard mark they need to stay 10:28 to so the vehicles- 10:29 It's like a 25 pound sandbag 10:33 that's like kind of like a flayed open, 10:34 like a butterfly that they drop on the ground. 10:37 it's usually meant to weight down like a stand 10:39 that holds lights and stuff like that. 10:40 And they'll put it down 10:41 and when the wheel rolls up on it, it hits it. 10:45 And then there's an art to actually hitting it 10:47 so it doesn't look like it's lurching the car to a stop 10:49 like it's hitting a rock or something. 10:51 It's a whole thing. 10:53 It's another actor cheat. 10:54 We've got tons of those. 10:56 But wait, so you went to driver performance like school 11:00 like Willow Springs or something like that? 11:02 We were in, well, we were in Budapest. 11:04 So we just was, the team was there 11:05 and we literally were training in this parking lot. 11:09 Oh my God. 11:10 Just me and a couple of these incredible. 11:12 They were like, oh, so Budapest. 11:14 Okay, go on the street. 11:15 Don't worry, we don't need to go. 11:16 Basically. 11:17 No, no, just go down, down, don't worry. 11:19 Don't worry about the children. 11:20 He's no problem, he's no problem. 11:22 That's about right. 11:25 So wait, so the whole thing was, 11:27 now there was Budapest, there wasn't there Morocco too? 11:29 There was a bunch of different spots. 11:30 Budapest, Morocco, Morocco, Slovakia. 11:34 Oh my God. 11:34 Yeah, those were our main locations. 11:37 Did you have to, did you have to go like, 11:38 I've always wanted to do this, like get guys for my birthday, 11:42 get me like a racing track, like gift certificate. 11:45 Like when you race cars around a track, 11:47 did you have to do that? 11:48 I did. 11:49 My character is sort of a, 11:51 she's a race car driver on the side, which is cool. 11:55 And I did, we did a track. 11:57 We did some rounds around a real track. 11:59 What'd you get up to? 12:01 Nothing crazy. 12:01 I mean, I think we were around 80 or something, 12:05 kind of normal, freeway, 12:07 because it looked so much faster 12:09 when the cameras are rolling. 12:10 I know, yeah, right. 12:11 Also, the weird part was sometimes I was in a car 12:14 where I wasn't even driving, 12:16 and someone else is driving, 12:18 and that was so much harder. 12:20 We had people on the roof, we had people in the back, 12:23 but it was so strange. 12:25 Oh, you had to act like you're driving. 12:25 Yeah, but when I wasn't driving, it made me sick, 12:28 you know, because you're so much more in control. 12:30 When you're driving, you're in control, 12:31 Well, you know when the turn's coming, 12:33 you know what you're gonna do. 12:34 When you're not driving, it's the strangest thing. 12:37 It's the weird, I did a couple of times, 12:40 I did one of those big NASCAR tracks 12:44 and I did it with Jeff Gordon 12:46 and he took me around in Atlanta. 12:48 And first of all, the bank, those curves are like, 12:51 it's almost like straight down, it's almost like a full. 12:53 And so doing that and you're not driving, 12:55 I hated it, I felt, and I'm not a nervous driver 12:58 or nervous about speed and stuff, but I was. 13:00 And then I also did it in a Formula One track 13:02 outside of Austin there at the, 13:05 and I was so, I got giddy almost 13:09 because I was so nervous. 13:10 He was going so fast and passing people 13:12 and you're not in control. 13:14 It makes you feel like, you feel like this is it. 13:17 Yeah. 13:17 It's all over. 13:18 When you weren't in control though, Jessica, 13:20 was it a rush? 13:21 Like, did you understand why people do it? 13:23 Did you get the adrenaline? 13:24 Yeah. 13:25 Yes. 13:26 Yeah, for sure. 13:26 I think I started to really get it into the speed. 13:31 I think I'm just so used to having to be a responsible driver 13:34 on the road and responsible for people's lives, 13:37 little lives. 13:39 And it was so cool to get behind the wheel 13:41 and know that everybody knew to get out of my way 13:43 and that I was gonna be safe and I could go as fast 13:46 and that was exhilarating. 13:48 So yes, that adrenaline, 13:50 I'm kind of an adrenaline junkie in most ways, 13:52 except usually in a car on the road 13:55 because it's so serious and so scary sometimes. 13:59 So it's family car all the time for you. 14:01 You don't have like your own little personal little sports car 14:03 you like to zip around mo-haund on? 14:05 I don't, I don't, no. 14:08 So we're talking full many, full many bands. 14:10 It's an Escalade. 14:11 Yeah, nice. 14:12 So it's a, you know, it's like a cool mommy car. 14:17 It's a, yeah, it's a cool car, 14:19 but I would love like a little Porsche or, 14:21 You know, I really like those new kind of Bronco 2s. 14:26 It's not a sports car, but it feels like a faster, 14:31 sexier, cute, like with a top that comes off. 14:33 Will, talk to us about the Bronco 2. 14:34 No, I will not. 14:35 I will not. 14:36 Tell us how much of the Bronco 2, Willie. 14:37 No, no, no, no, no. 14:39 Friends don't let friends drive Fords. 14:41 There we go. 14:44 The Bronco was my first car ever. 14:46 So I have like, it's just as a, 14:47 it has a little place in my heart. 14:48 Jessica, I know you like the Escalade, 14:50 but I'll tell you something. 14:51 I'd love to get you into a Yukon XL Denone. 14:53 Great, send it my way. 14:55 So Jessica, this whole. 14:57 I got a Turbo Max diesel. 14:58 Go ahead, Jessica, I'm sorry, I'm here. 15:00 Jessica, this whole love affair with America 15:03 and the world in general, it started in Boulder, right? 15:07 Oh, it did. 15:08 With your outdoorsy unconventional parents, huh? 15:12 What the? 15:12 It's so, it's so judgmental. 15:14 Is that so creepy? 15:16 The way you're saying that is so creepy 15:17 and judgmental. 15:18 I know, I was like, what is he gonna say? 15:19 Oh, were they carefree? 15:23 Jessica, there's a home-saving. 15:24 Kim and John, they just were out there 15:26 playing grab-ass in the woods. 15:28 Did you love the air? 15:29 Yeah, how did performing come into your brain out there? 15:34 Were you guys doing like little shows for one another? 15:37 Little kids running around there 15:38 in front of hippie-dippy mom and dad? 15:40 God, that sounds gross. 15:41 It's all on Wikipedia, you guys. 15:43 You're so offensive the way you say it. 15:45 It's so creepy. 15:47 I say it, guys. 15:48 And did you say grab ass in the woods? 15:49 Cause yes. 15:50 Grab ass in the woods. 15:51 That's what was happening. 15:54 I don't know you guys. 15:55 All I can remember is I was one of that 15:57 and I was just wasn't that annoying little kid 15:59 that was like, mom, watch this, 16:02 turn the video camera on mom. 16:04 And she's like, okay, great, okay, we're done. 16:06 No, no, no, I have more. 16:08 Watch again. 16:09 You know, it was just constant. 16:10 Like I was just constantly performing, 16:12 doing dumb things that were not cool 16:15 that she was pretending were cool. 16:17 They were pretending they were old. 16:19 I don't know where it came from. 16:20 It was just always within me. 16:22 Was it like, did you watch a ton of TV? 16:24 No, no, we didn't really watch a ton of TV. 16:28 No, they were playing grab-ass in the forest. 16:29 We were grab-assing in the woods. 16:32 I don't know what it was. 16:35 I used to imitate Nadia Comanich. 16:36 Remember that gymnast Nadia Comanich? 16:38 Sure did, 76 Montreal. 16:40 I would be like, I would do it over and over 16:42 and like, watch this. 16:43 And I would imitate that. 16:44 Like a heavy breathing after. 16:46 I don't really land your slants. 16:47 Oh, you did. 16:48 Oh, sorry. 16:48 You were imitating the ather, not the actual gymnast. 16:53 The end pose, which is important too. 16:55 Yeah. 16:56 You gotta snap it. 16:57 All right. 16:58 Well, that brings us to your training 17:01 as a gymnast as well, right? 17:02 At about the same time. 17:03 Yes. 17:03 I want to see you do that, Sean, so bad. 17:05 I want to see that too. 17:06 You can sit on Will and Grace. 17:07 He does a lot of that. 17:08 Do a round off and then the breathing. 17:10 And then where were you in order of siblings? 17:13 I'm the oldest and I have one younger brother. 17:15 Okay, but now where was Jim where was Jim that gymnastics was it was a serious thing for a second 17:20 We were training for that. It was a serious thing in Boulder. I was playing soccer 17:24 I was doing gymnastics and I was also 17:27 Football I was playing football 17:30 and I was um, you know, I was randomly getting involved with an agency like a like a 17:37 talent agency in Denver and in literally doing commercial acting classes in the summer and 17:43 and that kind of thing because I was interested in that stuff. 17:45 And then I started to get tall 17:48 and gymnastics started to kind of not really be my sport. 17:53 And I had to focus on other things. 17:55 And I was- 17:56 Were you getting commercials? 17:58 Not at that time. 17:59 I was just learning how to talk about products like you will 18:02 because you're really good at that. 18:04 Oh, thank you. 18:05 You're so good at product talking. 18:06 Well, what's your favorite car, Will? 18:07 Well, we've already mentioned it, 18:08 but the Sierra comes in and the Sierra EV is tremendous. 18:12 So then when did you discover, okay, 18:16 I gotta get to Los Angeles. 18:17 I gotta get out there to the Oak Woods, 18:19 get myself a nice studio apartment, 18:21 and start knocking on other people. 18:22 That was my life, Jason. 18:24 That was my place. 18:25 I was there. 18:26 I was there at those Oakwood apartments 18:28 in that studio apartment with my mom. 18:31 What age were you? 18:31 Going to pilot season. 18:32 I was 11, 12, and 13. 18:34 Did it three years ago? 18:35 Wow, wow. 18:36 You know what, really, okay. 18:38 Now I'm remembering. 18:39 Sometimes I have these weird blackout moments 18:40 where I forget about my life. 18:41 Do you guys ever have that? 18:42 I know, it's the weed. 18:43 Is it the weed? 18:44 Okay, I figured it was the weed. 18:45 Yeah, a lot of that's a weed. 18:46 I mean, I'm from Boulder, so you guys can go. 18:48 Yeah, sure, right. 18:48 You guys got a damn parents of yours. 18:50 Yeah, you got a head full of rope, go ahead. 18:53 Correct. 18:54 It was music weirdly. 18:56 I was interested, I was like a theater kid. 18:59 I wanted to, I auditioned for Annie 19:01 when I lived in Connecticut. 19:02 We took the train to New York. 19:03 I wanted to be Annie, that was my dream. 19:05 So it was all really music stuff. 19:08 And then, yeah. 19:10 Yeah, and then it kind of switched into acting. 19:14 So now I don't know. 19:15 So then you're out there for 11, 12, 13 pilot season. 19:19 Did we book a pilot? 19:21 Tomorrow, you're away. 19:23 Ignore them. 19:24 Did you book a pilot? 19:25 Today, you're away. 19:27 Wow, Will's register. 19:30 I did Seventh Heaven finally when I was 14. 19:33 I just turned 14 and I booked Seventh Heaven. 19:35 That was your first gig? 19:37 That was kind of the first real gig. 19:39 That was the first pilot. 19:39 And then, um, Uli's Gold with Peter Fonda, 19:43 like, booked at the same time, which was the movie. 19:44 Oh, yeah. Like, indie movie. 19:45 I remember that. Oh, my God, yeah. 19:47 Yeah. 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24:00 I remembered it being, or I remember it being fun for me. 24:05 I think it was a nightmare for my brother. 24:07 I think my brother was like, 24:08 what is happening to my family? 24:09 My mom and I were here, 24:10 my dad and my brother in Colorado, 24:11 then they eventually joined us in LA 24:14 and we lived in Calabasas for a while 24:17 after getting out of the Oakwood apartments after a while. 24:21 And then- 24:21 Now what about brother? 24:22 Was he thinking about or tempted or encouraged 24:25 to act as well? 24:27 Never his interest. 24:28 He was an incredible- 24:30 Discouraged, he was discouraged. 24:32 Yeah, none for you. 24:33 No, he was a crazy talented soccer player. 24:37 So he was just very normal lives going to school, 24:40 playing soccer. 24:41 Tell you, out there in the West Valley is a lot of soccer. 24:43 I played years of it out there in Woodland Hills. 24:45 Same. 24:46 I did too. 24:47 That's a lot. 24:47 That's a lot. 24:48 Good level of players out there. 24:50 Really, California players are just seriously good. 24:53 Is that right? 24:54 Oh yeah. 24:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 24:55 Baseball and soccer. 24:56 Wait, wait, wait, wait. 24:57 Jessica, how many seasons of Seventh Heaven did you do? 25:01 I did four full seasons. 25:05 And so I did basically my entire high school career 25:07 on the show and then went to college for a little bit 25:10 and then once that happened, 25:13 I kind of came back and forth a little bit 25:15 and did some little story lines that lasted 25:20 three or four episodes but never really came back 25:21 for a full season after that. 25:22 Right, but they were like, just come back and do this 25:24 and please just come back and do this. 25:26 But did you find that you doing that, 25:28 so how, sorry, you were 14 25:29 when you started doing Seven Heaven, is that right? 25:32 So what a great, what a great way to learn 25:35 and to go and do the sort of the discipline 25:37 of doing a TV series day in and day out 25:40 for those four in those formative years 25:42 must have taught you a lot about, right? 25:45 Oh my God, well, I went to film school there. 25:49 That was like film and TV intensive program. 25:53 I had the most incredible cast and crew. 25:56 It was such a supportive, cool environment. 25:58 Just a bunch of kids, like all the wonderful actors 26:00 playing my siblings and the parents. 26:02 and I learned, I mean, the stuff I remember so vividly 26:07 is our amazing camera operator who taught me 26:12 how to stand up and sit down on a chair. 26:15 You know, because I would go like, 26:17 I was all over the place, I was like, you gotta stand up 26:19 and then you gotta slowly sit back down. 26:21 And you gotta make it smooth. 26:22 You gotta come back up and find your light. 26:24 And I was like, what the fuck does that mean? 26:25 You know, I learned to find the light, 26:27 stand up, sit down, get emotional in front of strangers, 26:31 do crazy things in front of people I didn't know. 26:35 I mean, get comfortable doing all of those things. 26:38 And for Tracy, there's a phrase for this. 26:40 They call it, I need you to groucho a little bit 26:42 when you stand up there. 26:43 And with that, that's a groucho marks. 26:45 You know, when you see groucho marks, 26:46 you kind of like when he walks 26:47 and he's got the little cigar 26:48 and he's kind of like hunched over a little bit. 26:50 That's their phrase for like when you come up, 26:52 don't shoot straight up 26:53 because they can't keep you in the frame. 26:54 Right. 26:55 If you come up fast, 26:56 they want you to kind of like ease up 26:57 a little bit like groucho walks. 26:59 I learned a lot. 27:00 Jason, what an impression of God I know that you... 27:03 Oh, look it! There he is! 27:04 Yeah, thanks, man. Thank you. Thank you. 27:06 But, JB, you had the same experience, right? Like, as a kid, you learned... 27:09 You kind of learned on... You learned to fly in flight. 27:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You learn a lot. 27:13 But what you don't learn is how to be a kid. 27:15 You don't learn about, like, yourself, because you're not in school. 27:18 That's true. Awesome. 27:19 Here we go. Here we go. 27:20 That's true. 27:21 By the way, every time you say, JB, I think you're talking to me. 27:24 Hey, Jason, get off the cross. We could use the wood, okay? 27:27 Yeah, JB. 27:28 B, JB and JB. 27:30 Yeah, so Jessica, how was that? 27:32 How was, did you manage to maintain a semi-normal upbringing? 27:37 Were you going into a normal school during the hiatuses? 27:41 Were you going back to Boulder 27:42 or would you stay working with a tutor? 27:44 No, I was, I had, I did have a school in LA 27:46 that I was working on a program through. 27:50 It was like one of those weird school for like bad kids, 27:54 you know, or weird kids. 27:56 And I was like one of the weird kids 27:57 It wasn't on a bus, was it? 27:59 By any chance, I'm just shot in the dark here, but. 28:01 Thank God, no. 28:02 Okay. 28:04 I know. 28:05 Jason went to squand a bus. 28:05 We didn't have room for it. 28:07 Oh, man. 28:08 So I just, I never really showed up back into real school, but I was playing soccer. 28:16 And my team was everything. 28:18 I missed every practice. 28:19 You probably did the same. 28:21 And I only showed up at the games. 28:22 So I was like, sort of good and so really bad at the same time because I never practiced. 28:26 What position were you on your soccer team? 28:27 I was a right midfielder, but what about you? 28:32 Left half, yes, left inside forward at a left foot. 28:36 So they really took care of me there. 28:38 That's right, they should have. 28:40 But I was also that weird kid that like I would, 28:42 I was super fast. 28:43 So I could run with the ball really well 28:44 and then I would miss the goal every time. 28:47 Like it was the most- 28:48 Not much of a sure. 28:48 It's so embarrassing. 28:49 You couldn't be at no finish to your game. 28:50 Nobody wanted to give me the ball. 28:52 They were like, oh God, there she goes again. 28:53 And I was, I just, you know, 28:54 but I was like really positive and believed in myself. 28:59 If you can provide good service, that's okay. 29:01 You know, then they probably bring in a quality finisher 29:03 with you and then all of a sudden, you know that. 29:05 All right, so we're wrapping up Seventh Heaven. 29:09 We're kind of a big star 29:11 and then we get into Rules of Attraction, perhaps. 29:15 Yes, a Brett Easton Ellis novel 29:18 that's a little not quite so Seventh Heaven. 29:22 Were we thinking about, was there a strategy now 29:26 starting to come in a little bit? 29:28 And we're approaching Texas Chainsaw Massacre, 29:32 we're approaching Blade, we're approaching Stealth, 29:35 we're starting to go- 29:36 Oh my God, this is like full slate. 29:39 I want you to lay down on the banquette. 29:42 Okay, we're gonna go deep here. 29:43 Okay, okay. 29:44 Take us on this journey, take us on this journey. 29:46 But like things are, you're transitioning 29:48 into being an adult and we're no longer like a teen star 29:52 and it's exciting and it's nerve-wracking, I'm assuming. 29:56 We're making a career of this, yes? 29:57 Yeah, when did that switch for you to be like, 30:00 oh, you know what, I'm in a business. 30:02 You know, when did that occur to you? 30:04 I don't know, I don't remember. 30:06 Probably. 30:07 When you had to start paying rent. 30:08 Probably, yeah. 30:09 When I came back to LA, I never finished college, 30:13 which is a huge regret. 30:15 Well, try not finishing high school. 30:18 Sorry for that. 30:19 That's rough. 30:20 It's okay. 30:20 It's really, really rough. 30:21 It's okay. 30:21 Look, you got this. 30:23 You can do anything. 30:24 You can do anything. 30:24 Well, in fairness, the bus, the gas price ain't gonna die. 30:28 And we could not fix the left rear tire. 30:31 They couldn't complete the loop. 30:36 The loop. 30:37 All right. 30:38 So you're getting into adulthood now. 30:41 You've moved out of Colorado completely. 30:44 You're now living on your own in Los Angeles and we're starting to knock down some movies. 30:49 How are we feeling about living in Los Angeles by ourselves? 30:53 Mom's gone back home, brother's back home. Yep, everybody's back home. I'm in LA by myself. 30:59 How do we like living in LA by yourself? I mean, it was good. I think it was. 31:04 I think it had a, you know, nervy at some times and feeling kind of... 31:10 Got a good circle of friends. Yeah, had a good circle of friends. 31:13 But so, but you're coming off the show 31:15 and you're gonna start doing some movies 31:16 as Jason sort of started listing them 31:19 and there is that moment of like, 31:21 hey, is this gonna, am I gonna sink 31:24 or am I gonna, are I gonna make it here? 31:27 Do you remember the moment you got a certain job 31:29 that you went like, okay, this thing is gonna, 31:32 we got some legs here 31:33 to kind of make that transition into films? 31:35 Well, if you guys will remember, 31:37 that was a time where you really were 31:39 only on television or you were only in film. 31:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. 31:42 I think I started to feel like, 31:44 oh, this is a business and I'm gonna have to work hard 31:49 to make that transition. 31:51 Because everybody knows me as this very kind of proper 31:55 sort of good kid on this show. 31:58 And now I have to cross over into another 32:02 part of this industry. 32:04 And show that that was just a character. 32:05 Yeah, I would say Texas Chainsaw 32:08 was probably one of those, 32:09 one of the moments where I thought, 32:10 Okay, this is a really good move for me. 32:13 This is really opposite, really different. 32:15 Same with rules of attraction, very opposite. 32:18 So I was getting a little bit more calculated 32:21 and honestly, I think I was just interested 32:23 in doing something totally different 32:25 than what I had been doing up to that point. 32:30 So yeah. 32:30 And were these ideas coming from you or was it agents? 32:34 Like I guess I'm pressing on all this stuff 32:35 because it's like it's so weird for a kid actor 32:37 you start thinking about these strategies. 32:39 it's like, well, wait, but I'm just like playing 32:42 different people and pretending this is all pretend for me. 32:44 Just going back to like what you used to like do 32:46 in front of your mom and stuff like that. 32:48 But then you start to think about, well, God, 32:50 I gotta make a career of this. 32:51 And what are the keys to longevity? 32:53 I mean, I'm just like thinking back then, 32:54 if somebody told you you're gonna be, you know, 32:57 you're gonna be 30 years into your career 32:59 and things are gonna be better than ever. 33:01 30 years from now, you know, like, 33:03 would you have gone like, oh, shit, that is great. 33:06 Like, did you think that that was, 33:07 that that was something that's easily. 33:08 Are they better than ever? 33:10 I still feel, I don't know what you're mean. 33:13 I know you guys are like really famous 33:15 and have it all together. 33:16 But I still, I am still fighting my way back 33:21 into the film industry. 33:22 All are. 33:23 Oh my God, it never ever ends, you guys. 33:26 It never stops. 33:27 It never ends. 33:28 But that's healthy. 33:29 Is it? 33:30 Yes, 100%. 33:32 100%. 33:32 If it was easy, it would be, it would be. 33:35 Yeah, there really is no security 33:36 on anything. 33:37 Could it be just slightly easier? 33:40 Just a little bit. 33:40 Let me make some calls. 33:42 What do you want? 33:42 Then it would be boring. 33:43 Then it would be boring. 33:44 All right, let's talk to, before we jump to today, 33:48 we're still on the journey. 33:50 We're still carving out great jobs. 33:51 What about this? 33:52 Tell me about. 33:53 Is this not boring? 33:54 This journey is so boring. 33:56 No, no, it's exciting. 33:57 I want to know, Sean wants to know 34:00 if there was any dirt on the set 34:02 of that super bowl cast of Julia Roberts 34:06 It's Anne Hathaway, Bradley Cooper, Jessica Alba, 34:08 Kathy Bates, Shirley McKinney, 34:09 Ashton Kutcher, all day on Valentine's Day. 34:12 I mean, there must have been some kind of like- 34:14 That was a big movie. 34:15 Non-censored or- 34:17 Or pranks. 34:18 Anybody play any pranks? 34:20 God, I can't, I can't remember anything. 34:23 It was just fun and- 34:24 I just love those movies. 34:26 You know, we nobody worked together. 34:27 We only worked with like one other, 34:30 all these stories were so separate. 34:32 So I only worked with my people- 34:35 Yeah, and then you're off and you're gone. 34:38 I know, I know. 34:39 So, and it was so long ago, I don't even, 34:43 all I remember is eating so much chocolate 34:45 and running on a treadmill and then getting off 34:47 the, out of that scene and just puking 34:50 all the chocolate. 34:52 I mean, it just was chowing during this one scene 34:55 and just threw it up everywhere. 34:57 It was, that's what I remember. 34:59 And what do you do when you have long shoots like that? 35:02 How do you organize kid time 35:04 and who stays where and how do they come with sometimes 35:07 and all of that. 35:08 Well, she didn't have kids then. 35:09 Did you have kids then? 35:10 No, no, I didn't have kids then. 35:12 Oh, oh, oh. 35:13 I didn't have kids then. 35:14 Oh, oh, that was fun. 35:15 Don't jump ahead, Sean. 35:16 Sorry, sorry, sorry. 35:17 So then, so then- 35:18 I'm with you, Sean. 35:18 I'm ready to jump. 35:19 This story is- 35:20 Now, at this point, at this point, 35:22 do we run into the woman with the greatest name 35:24 in the world, Michelle Purple? 35:26 And do we start Iron Ocean? 35:28 Do we start production company? 35:28 Michelle Purple started back, 35:30 get over here immediately. 35:31 Just get over here and say hello. 35:33 Oh, oh. 35:33 Come on, purple. 35:34 You have to come over. 35:35 No, but this guy's here. 35:37 Oh, is that Michelle? 35:38 Michelle, you look just like Justin Timberlake. 35:40 She's here. 35:41 Whatever you want. 35:41 I got you. 35:43 Hi. 35:44 I'm Mr. Timberlake. 35:46 How are you? 35:46 Michelle, you look just like Justin Timberlake. 35:49 Yeah. 35:50 We were talking about Michelle Purple. 35:52 Oh, yeah. 35:52 Hi, buddy. 35:53 Welcome to Smartless. 35:55 Yeah. 35:55 Hi, how you guys doing? 35:56 Hey, Justin, do you remember when I was nominated 35:58 for a Teen Choice Award and I came into your trail 35:59 and you're rolling on my stomach? 36:02 He sure doesn't. He sure doesn't. 36:04 Good to see you guys. 36:06 Good to see you guys. 36:09 I just came to see if you wanted something to eat. 36:12 Thank you, baby. I'm good. 36:14 She needs some tech support. 36:16 Yeah, tech support. Do you want some food? 36:18 Right now? 36:20 No, I'm okay. 36:21 He's literally trying to see if she's safe. 36:23 He's like, are you safe or do you want me to get you out of this? 36:26 I think I'm going to sit down with you guys soon. 36:28 Yeah, get in. 36:29 Oh, good. 36:30 Oh, good. 36:30 Oh, wait. 36:31 See, now they're really excited. 36:32 They're so excited. 36:33 More excited than us. 36:34 Like, so whatever. 36:35 Just take over. 36:36 No, no, whatever shit he says about me. 36:37 I'll get to retort. 36:38 Okay. 36:39 Yeah, yeah. 36:39 Here we go. 36:40 Thank you to you guys. 36:41 Bye. 36:41 You too, Paul. 36:42 Sean, I can't wait to rub your belly again. 36:44 Okay. 36:45 Bye. 36:45 Okay, thank you. 36:47 He does remember. 36:47 Was it a rub or a write? 36:49 He wrote on my shirt. 36:52 What did he write on your shirt? 36:53 Just like an autograph? 36:55 No, but I framed it and I gave it to my niece. 36:57 Do you, do you guys want me to ask him to just come back and like I can slide out? 37:01 No, you kidding me? 37:02 He just told us, he just told us that he's coming on the show, which I guess means that that's a secret revealed. 37:10 I am the secret revealed. 37:11 We're all doing visitors now. 37:12 We have another visitor. 37:14 You can't hear them but just say hi. 37:18 Listener, that's Willie's youngest, Denny. 37:21 Yeah, what a sweetheart. 37:21 Wait, Jess, he said, look at us. 37:24 No, yes, yes, yes. 37:25 Yes, so he just revealed that he's coming on the show. 37:30 He said anything you say shitty about him, 37:31 he can retort in his episode. 37:33 Give me, give us a shitty story 37:35 that happened this morning. 37:37 Or what's the last night? 37:38 Something that we can hold his feet to the fire on. 37:41 Yeah, about food or watching movies. 37:43 Does he grab the remote? 37:45 Like does he ever let you take charge of the movie? 37:47 Oh, I've got a good one. 37:48 I've got a good one for you, 37:49 which happened this morning. 37:51 So we have this little cute fitness space 37:55 in our house, and we have these cool accordion, you know, 37:58 these accordion windows that kind of fold into themselves. 38:02 Yeah, like on a honey wagon. 38:04 Yes. 38:05 Oh, a honey wagon. 38:06 That just brought me back. 38:08 A honey wagon. 38:10 Do we need to explain that to Tracy? 38:11 I'm not sure. Is that she knows? 38:12 So Tracy, there are these trailers that we did before. 38:16 I was thinking of something else. 38:17 Okay, good. 38:19 Yeah, that too. 38:21 There's small dressing rooms. 38:22 Anyway, okay, so the accordion windows slide open 38:25 and then you have this pretty view 38:27 and you can work out with the windows wide open, cool. 38:31 I put the alarm on last night, went to bed, woke up 38:35 and started pulling shades up 38:37 and the shades in the gym kind of looked like 38:40 they were getting sucked into the corner of the window 38:43 and started to go up and had a big crinkle in them 38:45 and so Anem was looking and I quickly brought him back 38:48 down and walked over, accordion windows 38:50 had been left open all night long. 38:54 Oh, boy. 38:55 And honestly, I was first of all, 38:58 that alarm needs to be updated. 38:59 That was my first thing was who did not connect 39:02 these ginormous scary windows to the alarm system, 39:06 which let me turn it on. 39:08 And don't you live, you don't live in Los Angeles. 39:11 I don't, we live in Montana. 39:12 And that's the other thing. 39:13 We have humongous animals here. 39:15 Oh my God. 39:16 And if they come in for garbage, 39:17 so we could have woken up to a bear in there. 39:21 My dream. 39:21 Or a couple of elk or a moose. 39:24 Again, something else, Sean's thinking of something else. 39:27 Sean wakes up to a bear every morning saying, Scotty. 39:31 So there you go. 39:32 That's interesting. 39:32 You can give him some shit for that. 39:34 What about, you know, Scotty and I just, 39:35 we always have this thing with the TV too, 39:37 where like every night when we watch something, 39:40 I'll be like, can you turn it up? 39:42 Can you turn it down? 39:44 God. 39:45 I'm like, well, if you're going to, 39:46 if you're going to man the remote control, 39:48 then you have to deal with me saying. 39:50 Yeah, you have to be willing to take. 39:52 Yeah, you have to take direction. 39:53 Who gets the remote? 39:54 You or Scotty? 39:55 Scotty. 39:55 Scotty all the time. 39:57 I didn't even know how to, 39:58 I don't even know how to talk to him. 39:58 He's Johnny Tech, although I will say 39:59 his phone went off the other day in a service 40:01 and I was like, hey, are Johnny Tech has the phone? 40:02 I know, well, that was for his diabetes. 40:04 Thanks. 40:05 So Jessica. 40:06 Oh, jeez. 40:07 Oh, jeez. 40:09 Nice, well-learned. 40:11 It was really. 40:11 Have a doughnut. 40:12 Have a doughnut. 40:13 Was it really? 40:14 Was it really? 40:14 Yeah, it really was because of his diabetes. 40:17 Grab the doughnut. 40:18 Yeah, and then I just grabbed it instead. 40:20 Oh. 40:23 We'll be right back. 40:27 Sonos is a sound system engineered to make you feel. 40:31 Sound is as much a part of the design of your home as your furniture, as your art. 40:36 It can completely change the experience of a room, even though you can't actually see it. 40:41 Sonos works as a system throughout your home, so the sound can move with you 40:45 and help set the mood wherever you are. 40:48 A familiar song can make the kitchen feel less like the place where you unload the dishwasher 40:53 and more like somewhere you actually want to hang out. 40:56 Two speakers can sync up to play music in the bedroom and, well, you can fill in the rest. 41:02 Whatever you want to feel, Sonos can bring it to life. 41:05 Guys, how important is music to your everyday mood? 41:08 For me, it's huge. 41:10 So I got the adventure set that has two Sonos plays in it. 41:13 They're like speakers. 41:14 You got to see these things. 41:15 I haven't set up in the kitchen, but when I want to go outside, 41:17 I just pick them up and take them because they're portable and I sit on the backyard and I read or play with the dog or whatever 41:23 It's great. 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43:56 Oh yeah. 43:56 Huh? 43:57 Oh yeah. 43:57 What was that, right? 43:58 Yes, that really happened. 44:00 That was like a thing for a minute. 44:02 Yeah, where, where? 44:03 Tell me, I don't know. 44:04 Oh, it's so funny. 44:05 Jess, you tell it. 44:06 Well, it was just, if the kids having a meltdown, 44:09 they would go, Jessica? 44:11 Jessica? 44:11 And the kid would literally go. 44:14 And stop crying. 44:15 And stop crying and like look around in panic. 44:17 And I literally was like, guys, 44:19 Jessica's are nice people. 44:20 You're making a scared, 44:22 you're making your kids scared of us. 44:23 We are not trying to creep you out or freak you out. 44:27 And it definitely doesn't work for my kids. 44:29 My kids are like, she's going crazy finally. 44:31 She's just saying her name over and over and over again. 44:36 It does not work on your kids. 44:38 How old are they? 44:39 11 and six. 44:41 Oh, fun ages. 44:43 I got a six. 44:44 It was, is he six? 44:44 He just met my six, he's six. 44:46 So sweet. 44:47 And it's a great age, isn't it? 44:48 It's a sweet age. 44:49 Yeah. 44:50 It's cute. 44:51 But wait, Jason, you were talking about Purple. 44:53 You were talking about Michelle Purple. 44:54 Oh, yeah. 44:55 Michelle Purple. 44:56 Let's go. 44:56 Let's get back to her. 44:57 Who is Michelle Purple? 44:58 Michelle Purple, okay. 44:59 I'm so glad you brought her up. 45:01 I know you hear this all the time, 45:03 but she is your number one fan of- 45:06 Me? 45:07 Smartless. 45:08 She is the number one fan of this show 45:10 and is so excited that I'm talking to you guys. 45:12 And she literally said to me this morning, 45:14 she goes, if you fuck this up, 45:15 If you embarrass me or us or our company, 45:18 I swear to God. 45:19 And I was like, I'm gonna do my best. 45:21 So let's go deep on purple. 45:23 So she's your business partner, I'm guessing. 45:25 She's my business partner 45:26 and has been my best friend for over 20 years. 45:30 She ran Rob Cohen's company. 45:32 She produced Fast and the Furious, 45:35 triple X and Stealth. 45:37 And she hired me, her and Rob hired me for Stealth. 45:40 That's how we met 20 years ago. 45:41 And then we were in Australia together, 45:43 shooting stealth, and we became really good friends 45:48 and started watching movies together. 45:49 And that, talking about going back- 45:51 Then you poached her. 45:52 Then you poached her. 45:53 And I poached her, and she was ready to be poached. 45:55 She wasn't sure what she wanted to do, 45:57 and honestly, I- 45:58 But she knew she wanted to leave Rob. 45:59 She knew that. 46:00 She knew she needed to move on from that. 46:03 And I said to her, 46:05 hey, let's do, let's make a production company. 46:09 Let's do it. 46:09 And she was like, you don't know anything about that. 46:11 And I said, you're right. 46:12 but you do, so she's like, this is a terrible plan. 46:16 This is a bad idea. 46:17 So for Sean's sister in Madison, Wisconsin, 46:20 tell her what starting a production company really means. 46:24 What did you want to do with starting Iron Ocean? 46:26 Okay, so when you started with Michelle Purple, 46:29 with Michelle Deep Purple. 46:30 Purple, Michelle Purple, the best. 46:34 Jason, do you know her? 46:35 Are you friends with her? 46:36 We're deep, we go deep, deep, deep Purple. 46:38 Does he know her? 46:39 Yeah, Deep Purple, I don't think so. 46:41 Oh, we're gonna. 46:41 Okay. 46:42 But guess what? 46:44 She wants to know you. 46:45 Great. 46:46 So she should come for dinner tonight. 46:47 She might change her mind. 46:48 She lives in LA. 46:49 She might change her mind. 46:49 Or at least let's have a zoom 46:51 for development meeting on something. 46:52 Oh God, yes please. 46:53 Anyway, production company. 46:55 So that was a moment where I really wanted 46:57 to take charge of my career and not just sit around 47:00 and wait for the phone call of like, 47:02 you have an audition or you have a this or that. 47:04 Sure, right. 47:05 She wanted to take charge of her career. 47:07 And so we started this tiny production company 47:10 I mean, not knowing how to do any of it. 47:12 Well, she knew how to do, she made big films, 47:16 big action movies. 47:16 And we wanted to make small movies about women 47:18 and female stories. 47:20 And that was when nobody was doing that. 47:22 The only company that was doing that was Drew's company. 47:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 47:27 Flower. 47:28 Flower. 47:29 Flower, so. 47:29 With the great, with the great Nancy Chabone. 47:32 Nancy, with the legend of all time. 47:35 Nancy, I love Nancy too. 47:37 So that was that, literally we would go into, 47:40 We'd go talk to our agents and managers 47:42 and tell them this idea that we're doing this thing 47:43 and they literally looked at us 47:44 and would just blink with blanks, 47:46 faces go, do not do this. 47:48 And we're like, we're gonna do it. 47:49 So we have been trying to make movies and TV shows 47:53 for 20 years. 47:54 It was so hard. 47:56 We did almost nothing for 10 years. 47:58 And then did you do, 47:59 did you do Better Sister through Iron? 48:02 So through Iron Ocean, we did The Center. 48:05 We produced The Center. 48:06 Oh yeah, that's a great show. 48:08 One town which nobody saw which was such a bummer and was such a good show. 48:11 But taken from a podcast, so teach us how to do that, we're looking to break the smart 48:17 list movie. 48:18 I love the center. 48:19 I love that. 48:19 That was great. 48:20 Thank you. 48:21 Better sister, Candy, Cruel Summer. 48:25 You had to work with that Liz Banks gal on Better Sister though, how did you get 48:29 through that? 48:30 Oh, that Liz Banks. 48:31 This woman. 48:33 She does more than anyone I know. 48:36 And Max, and Max. 48:38 Oh, and Max, I love her. 48:41 She's a delight. 48:43 They're the best, they're the best. 48:45 They're just delightful and fun. 48:46 She's so fun. 48:47 God, she's cool. 48:48 We love her. 48:48 And she does so much shit. 48:49 I'm like, how does she do so much shit? 48:51 I know. 48:52 She's impressive. 48:52 Jessica, can I ask you, so you did all this stuff. 48:55 Remember, Sean asked you before 48:56 when he jumped the gun as he does 48:58 about having kids and you had kids at the time 49:00 or you didn't have kids. 49:01 But now when you go and you do something 49:03 like Matchbox, and then you go, you're in Hungary, 49:09 you're in Morocco, you're in Slovakia, 49:11 you're in all these places, and we deal with it, 49:14 I know a little bit of what that's like, 49:15 but how are you at managing that 49:18 and dealing with that, with the family 49:20 and traveling and doing this? 49:21 It's a constant, right? 49:24 Like, yeah, because not only do you have to do the thing, 49:26 not only do you have to do the job 49:27 and be concentrating on that. 49:28 12 hours a day. 49:29 12 hours a day. 49:30 You've got all these people and kids 49:32 who you're responsible for and you have to make sure 49:35 that they're having a great experience. 49:36 It's not easy. 49:37 No, it's not. 49:38 And it's a constant balancing act. 49:41 Sometimes I think I do it better, 49:43 we do it better than others. 49:45 And other times it's an absolute shit storm. 49:48 Yeah, right. 49:49 And it should be noted that we know 49:52 that a lot of people out there, 49:53 obviously everybody in the world deals with work 49:55 and kids and stuff like that. 49:57 And so we're not, but it's also adding 49:59 in just the travel element of it, you know, being overseas. 50:03 Yeah, there's a few occupations that have the same thing, you know, and not the least 50:06 of which is military and, I mean, athletes and politicians and all the, they're stationed 50:12 around the world, all that kind of stuff. 50:13 It's very, very difficult, that travel element. 50:16 How do you guys do it? 50:17 Well, usually we try not to work at the same time, but that did not work at all for 50:22 a matchbox. 50:22 Justin was on tour in the middle of the global tour, which is insane. 50:27 He was literally in South America or he was in North America 50:32 and I was in Budapest with the kids. 50:34 They came for seven weeks. 50:37 We didn't see Justin for eight weeks. 50:39 Then we met back up in the Bahamas for a week. 50:42 Then I went to Morocco, then he went to South America 50:44 and my kids went back to Montana. 50:47 It was wild. 50:49 The only way it works is the incredible nanny team, 50:53 support team, assistant team, colleague team. 50:56 I cannot do this my life does not function without like all of those incredible and you guys have family in Montana 51:03 With you near you. We don't have well Justin's cousin Rachel and my kids cousin 51:09 Hawkins is here, but we like my mom doesn't live here. My mom lives in Colorado. His parents are in 51:16 Tennessee my dad is in Hawaii 51:18 So we're all over the place. So we don't really have kind of though. We don't have grandparents close by 51:24 unfortunately, which is a bummer. 51:26 Yeah, but you make it work and you figure out 51:29 and you get great people to help you 51:30 and those become, I think that's pretty normal. 51:33 It used to be generations ago 51:35 that you had family around to help 51:36 and now people live in all these places, 51:38 as you pointed out, you have to have people 51:40 who can help you, who become part of your family. 51:43 Oh my God, yes. 51:43 And help you, yeah, yeah, same. 51:45 Takes the village. 51:46 All right, so when you're done being incredibly prolific 51:51 as an actor, as a producer, your job at home, 51:56 which is even harder, when you're alone, 52:01 what do you do to completely... 52:03 What are you scared of? 52:04 I am. 52:06 What's the thought that you can't get out of your head? 52:08 What settles you that would be surprising to people? 52:11 Oh, wait. 52:13 What's... 52:13 Don't listen to Will. 52:14 Settled, unsettled, said don't listen to Will. 52:16 You don't listen to Will. 52:16 But his voice is so hypnotic, 52:18 that's all I can hear right now. 52:18 I know, it gets in there. 52:19 Oh my God, it is getting in there. 52:21 Like, how do you decompress? 52:23 How do you reset? 52:24 I like to just zone out and stare at a baseball game 52:27 on a television screen. 52:29 That sort of is just very meditative for me. 52:32 What is there something that takes you back down? 52:36 You usually it's exercise or getting outside 52:41 and just being, you know, taking a walk, 52:43 taking a hike, walking the dogs or training hard. 52:47 Do you have headphones on when you're outside 52:49 or do you, can you get quiet with your brain? 52:51 I go a little bit of both. 52:53 I like to listen to books on, you know, like books on tape, 52:57 whatever, whatever you wanna call that. 52:59 So I listen to like, I love to read, 53:02 I love to kind of dive into that kind of imaginary space 53:05 world and also just to listen to the birds 53:08 and listen to the wind, that for me, 53:11 I love like a good forest bath. 53:13 I love that forest bath, I love that. 53:16 That's a great bath. 53:17 That's the name of my production company. 53:18 Jason, we were talking about this the other night 53:22 it's dinner, Shawn, you didn't come 53:23 because you had no plans. 53:25 And we were out, I said, 53:26 Jessica, you should know we're all together 53:28 and we're leaving this place and we're going for dinner 53:30 because we're all in town again. 53:31 We've just shared a very emotional bonding evening 53:34 at a dear friends memorial. 53:37 And Shawn and Scotty go home. 53:39 They got nothing to do and they go home. 53:41 They don't come with their best friends for dinner. 53:43 I don't want to rehash and hold each other. 53:46 And no, I just, I was just, 53:48 Wheel of Fortune was starting, probably, right? 53:50 A, B, I was tired. 53:53 C, Jeopardy too. 53:54 Oh, okay. 53:56 Jeopardy's before Wheel of Fortune. 53:57 You were tired from what? 53:59 So, but anyway, my point is this, 54:01 JB, you and I were talking at dinner about this idea 54:03 of there's not enough premium these days paid on 54:07 for the idea of just sitting around 54:09 and having nothing. 54:11 You're not holding your phone. 54:12 You're not listening to anything. 54:14 You're looking at the window. 54:15 you're just alone in your thoughts and just that sort of in that kind of state and that is where 54:20 People say like oh, you know where does creativity come or whatever it comes out of boredom 54:24 It comes out of letting your mind wander and I don't think you ever do you do that who me no she does she says yes 54:30 No, she said she's outside on the forest back 54:32 But but sit but to your point just like sitting there for forest bathing. I mean you got to do it 54:38 But I need more of that in my life honestly 54:41 I can get into that space where when I do come home, 54:45 I'm like, okay, now it's time to work out.
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