Ivanka and the Reckoning of New York Society

Virginia Heffernan talks to Vanessa Grigoriadis, host of the Ivanka podcast Tabloid, about her lifestyle changes since her father came to office, life with Jared Kushner, her intelligence and bookishness, her relationship with New York high society, run-ins with Ivanka in real life, and how the rest of society relates to her. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices