Everyone thinks of national and international governments leading or failing on climate change. But what about cities and smaller political entities? How can they lead on climate and carbon removal when larger entities may be focused elsewhere? Since carbon removal infrastructure is likely to end up at least partially within urban or periurban environments, how can we prepare ourselves and our policies for such a near-term future? To answer these and so many more questions, Christiaan Gevers Deynoot, the Founder and Program Lead of the City CDR Initiative joins host Ross Kenyon (who also serves as a Strategic Advisor, Communications for the City CDR Initiative.) This becomes a discussion about the big questions of political order, whether we prefer bottom-up experimentation and ferment or top-down legibility and scale, and to what degree the agony and the ecstasy of central planning may be present for CDR at the municipal level. This show gets highly philosophical and highly practical, which is a terrific combination when one can get it! This Episode's Sponsors ClimeFi Arbonics Listen to the RCC episode with Lisett Luik from Arbonics Become a sponsor by emailing carbon.removal.strategies[at]gmail.com Use this affiliate link to use Descript's transcripting and podcast editing service Use this affiliate link to use Riverside to record your podcasts Sign up for the 9Zero climate coworking space with my referral code Resources Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change City CDR Initiative on Linkedin The Federalist Papers Napoleonic Code James C. Scott's Seeing Like a State: How Certain Schemes to Improve the Human Condition Have Failed Haussmann's renovation of Paris