In this conversation we explore Phil's recent experience at Princeton, focusing on the importance of grounding oneself in nature and the significance of understanding one's purpose. We talk about the need for beauty and play in life, especially during challenging times, and the importance of creating spaces for risk-taking and personal growth. We talk about calling through the lens of prepostions: called by, called to, called with, and called away from as a bonus. Some of the people referenced in this episode: Octavia Butler John O'Donohue St. Francis of Assisi Chapters 00:00 Exploring Vocation and Nature 05:51 The Call: Understanding Our Purpose 11:59 Identifying What We Are Called Toward 18:00 The Importance of Beauty and Play in Life 24:06 The Power of Shared Experiences 25:33 Exploring the Concept of Calling 26:55 Biblical Figures as Guides 28:09 Understanding Ecclesiastes 30:49 Life's Meaning Through Mortality 31:43 Influential Historical Figures 32:58 The Impact of Fiction on Theology 36:40 Contemporary Influences in Faith 38:54 The Call to Stay and Serve 40:11 Finding Beauty in Change