Whether it is seizing restaurants, hotels, cars or Bitcoin, our guest, Joanna Summers , Chief Recovery Officer of Asset Reality , has done it all with over a decade of experience working in both the public and private sector on complex asset forfeitures. In this episode, Ian Andrews (CMO at Chainalysis) speaks to Joanna about developing asset forfeiture programs for countries all over the world and working with the Asset Reality team on their new platform to streamline the asset seizure process. Joanna shares her history at the US Marshal Service Asset Forfeiture Division and how cryptocurrency slowly started to play a bigger role in investigations and seizures, including major cases like Silk Road. This episode was originally published on February 27, 2024 and we have recorded some recent updates from Joanna Summers on the latest crypto scams, FATF's 2025 asset recovery initiatives, and Asset Reality's exciting new training programs and partnerships. Minute-by-minute episode breakdown 2 | The role of asset forfeiture and the process of seizing and selling complex assets 6 | Joanna's first encounter with cryptocurrency during 2013 Silk Road investigation 9 | Joining Asset Reality and helping countries improve their asset forfeiture programs 13 | The Financial Action Task Force (FATF) focus on global asset recovery 17 | The digital asset recovery procedures and importance of moving crypto quickly into law enforcement controlled wallets 20 | Updated: FATF’s asset recovery priorities for 2025 22 | The emergence of pig butchering scams and how to protect consumers 26 | Joanna’s role as an ambassador for the Association for Women in Crypto 29 | Updated: New Crypto Crimes including: address poisoning, typo squatting and clipboard hijacking 32 | Updated: Taxbit Partnership and crypto recovery outlook for 2025 Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website: The Future of Seized Assets: Asset Reality is the seized asset management platform Publication: Amendments to the FATF Standards to Strengthen Global Asset Recovery News: Asset Reality Integrates with Fireblocks for Digital Asset Custody Partnership: Asset Reality and Taxbit Partner to Enhance Digital Asset Seizure and Management Website: The association for WOMEN IN CRYPTO learn. network. advocate. Blog: 2025 Crypto Crime Report Preview: $2.2 Billion Stolen from Crypto Platforms in 2024, but Hacked Volumes Stagnate Toward Year-End as DPRK Slows Activity Post-July YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Tik Tok: Building trust in #blockchains among people, businesses, and governments. Telegram: Chainalysis on Telegram Speakers on today’s episode Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis) Joanna Summers (Chief Recovery Officer, Asset Reality) This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.
