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What if your greatest health challenge could become your most powerful teacher?
In this episode of Productivity Smarts, host Gerald J. Leonard sits down with Cindy Wageman, speaker, coach, and bestselling author of Completely Healed: How Understanding the Link Between Trauma, Stress, and Autoimmune Disease Helped Me Get My Life Back.
Cindy opens up about her journey of healing from multiple sclerosis, sharing how faith, mindset, and self-discovery transformed her life. She reveals how years of people-pleasing and unprocessed trauma affected her health, and how learning to listen to her intuition, and to God, became the key to true healing. Together, she and Gerald explore the science of epigenetics, explaining how our thoughts, relationships, and environment can literally switch our genes on or off.
One of Cindy's most powerful insights came when she realized the importance of being honest with her family about her struggles, a revelation that later inspired her work as a life and relationship coach.
This heartfelt episode reminds us that real productivity starts from within, when we nurture our bodies, renew our minds, and live with purpose and balance. Let's dive in!
What We Discuss
[00:00] Introduction to Cindy Wageman
[06:41] Addressing trauma and self-discovery
[10:20] Processing trauma and stress
[12:03] Daily habits for healing
[14:57] Realization about stress and joy
[15:51] Discovery of epigenetics
[19:28] Recognizing red flags and self-care
[24:53] Relationships and boundaries
[27:12] Insight for parents and professionals
[32:23] Closing remarks
Notable Quotes
[05:56] "I had to learn through all of the experience that I went through, that I needed to find myself. Pleasers lose themselves." – Cindy Wageman
[07:24] "I decided that I was going to not listen to anyone else, but start listening to myself and my intuition and the voice inside of me, which I feel was God," – Cindy Wageman
[08:13] "Our mind and our bodies are very closely connected. Our brains tell our body, our bodies respond." – Cindy Wageman
[11:11] "I think our bodies can go through the same process when we don't know how to process that trauma and stress." – Gerald J. Leonard
[13:48] "I learned about the eight laws of health... breathing fresh air, getting the rest that you need, exercise, nutrition, trusting in God, sunshine, and balance in life." – Cindy Wageman
[25:16] "There are very toxic people. I wanted to help everyone, I wanted to fix everyone, and I found out that I can't." — Cindy Wageman
[26:11] "There is a term in psychology called Gray Rock — it's really just being a gray rock. Just there, but not being emotionally involved at all." — Cindy Wageman
[27:21] "I think that one of the things that really has affected me through this journey was when I had multiple sclerosis was my children. I had babies, I had little kids. And I didn't tell them what was going on." – Cindy Wageman
[23:07] "I only have control over what I can control — my community, my neighbors, my family. I can give them all the love that I can." — Cindy Wageman
[29:29] "I asked God, why am I crying? And He said, Cindy, this is your story. You need to tell other people about it." – Cindy Wageman
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