Testimony appears to contradict Rick Perry Ukraine claims

Tuesday's testimony by Army Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman to House Democrats puts Energy Secretary Rick Perry in the room as top administration officials discussed a possible investigation into Joe Biden by Ukraine. POLITICO Pro's Ben Lefebvre discusses what we know of Perry's involvement in the scandal that sparked the impeachment inquiry. Plus, despite Trump's promises on the campaign trail, coal companies continue to go bankrupt in key political states. And, the House will pick up public lands bills later this week. Find more on the show at politico.com/energy-podcast.