Suleika Jaouad was diagnosed with cancer at 22. She made her illness the subject of a New York Times column and a memoir, Between Two Kingdoms. She and Steve talk about what it means to live with a potentially fatal illness, how to talk to people who've gone through a tragedy, and ways to encourage medical donations. SOURCES: Suleika Jaouad , author. RESOURCES: The Book of Alchemy: A Creative Practice for an Inspired Life , by Suleika Jaouad (2025). The Alchemy Journal , by Suleika Jaouad (2025). “ The Art of Survival ,” by Jennifer Senior ( The Atlantic, 2024). American Symphony , film by Matthew Heineman (2023). Between Two Kingdoms: A Memoir of a Life Interrupted , by Suleika Jaouad (2021). “ Max Ritvo, Poet Who Chronicled His Cancer Fight, Dies at 25 ,” by John Schwartz ( The New York Times, 2016). “ Life, Interrupted ,” column by Suleika Jaouad ( The New York Times, 2012-2015). The Fault in Our Stars , by John Green (2012). Bright-sided: How Positive Thinking Is Undermining America , by Barbara Ehrenreich (2009). The Isolation Journals , newsletter by Suleika Jaouad. EXTRAS: “ John Green’s Reluctant Rocket Ship Ride ,” by People I (Mostly) Admire (2022). “ Does Death Have to Be a Death Sentence? ” by People I (Mostly) Admire (2022). Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
