The Last Trade: Former Blackstone partner David Thayer explains why liquidity—not cycles—drives BTC, how AI and fiscal dominance are steering policy, why gold is leading, what Texas’ ETF buy signals, and how JPM’s new BTC note underscores spot over wrappers. --- 🔸 Connect with Onramp: The leader in resilient, fault-tolerant Multi-Institution Custody for secure, enduring bitcoin ownership. 👉 Inheritance & Trust Planning: https://onrampbitcoin.com/products/inheritance 👉 Institutional: https://onrampbitcoin.com/products/institutional 👉 Business: https://onrampbitcoin.com/products/business 📩 Schedule a briefing: https://onrampbitcoin.com/contact 🎙️ About This Episode With David Thayer (ex-Blackstone), we reset after the pullback: the 5-year lens over daily noise; fiscal dominance and valuations in a broken fiat denominator; AI as a national-security project (energy, chips, compute) that backstops spending; and gold + BTC as “liquidity sponges.” We hit SLR tweaks and stablecoin rails as engineered demand for Treasuries, realistic quantum timelines, Texas’ first ETF allocation, JPM’s new IBIT-linked structured note (what it signals), and why “treasury companies” can’t outrun spot. We close on politicization risk—and how to keep bitcoin’s message human, bipartisan, and savings-focused. The Last Trade: a weekly, bitcoin-native podcast covering the intersection of bitcoin, tech, & finance on a macro scale. Hosted by Jackson Mikalic, Michael Tanguma, & Brian Cubellis. Join us as we dive into what bitcoin means for how individuals & institutions save, invest, & propagate their purchasing power through time. It's not just another asset...in the digital age, it's The Last Trade that investors will ever need to make. 🧠 Chapters 00:00 – Intro to David Thayer, price check, 5-year lens 04:12 – Volatility as opportunity: Thanksgiving playbook 06:07 – AI “bubble” or policy mandate? 11:15 – National security, AI, and quantum risk 17:01 – Fiscal dominance: engineered Treasury demand 26:33 – Gold, China, and the U.S. Bitcoin edge 28:16 – Texas ETF buy & the sound money revival 38:27 – Bitcoin and politics: partisan risk 54:20 – JPM’s BTC note: structure and signal 1:02:28 – Treasury companies vs spot BTC 1:09:29 – Gratitude and the monetary revolution 💡 Subscribe & Stay Ahead Get Onramp’s weekly Research & Analysis: High-signal insights in bitcoin, macro, and custody. 📩 https://onrampbitcoin.com/research Subscribe to Onramp Media for more: 🎧 The Last Trade | Final Settlement | Scarce Assets
