Clinical Manifestations of Primary CNS T Cell Lymphoma
Dr. Kait Nevel talks with Dr. Katharina Schmidbauer about primary CNS T-cell lymphoma, highlighting diagnostic challenges, imaging characteristics, and treatment approaches for this rare disease.
Read the related article in Neurology®.
Disclosures can be found at Neurology.org.
Podcast Transcript:
Dr. José Merino: This is José Merino, editor-in-chief of the Neurology Family of Journals. The Neurology Podcast provides practical information to neurologists and other clinicians to help them provide better care for their patients. Thanks for listening and have a great week.
Dr. Kait Nevel: Hello, my name is Kait Nevel. Today, I am interviewing Katharina Schmidbauer on her article, "Clinical Manifestations of Primary CNS T-Cell Lymphoma." Welcome to the Neurology Podcast. And Katharina, I would love to hear a little bit about you.
Dr. Katharina Schmidbauer: Thank you, Kait. Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure. I am a neurologist with a great research interest in neuro-oncology, working at the University Hospital of Munich.
Dr. Kait Nevel: Wonderful. Thank you for that. What do you think the most important takeaway is from your article for the practicing neurologist?
Dr. Katharina Schmidbauer: Primary CNS T-cell lymphoma is very rare and the diagnosis is often really difficult to establish. In this study, we present hallmarks of the disease that could help with the diagnosis in the future. And our case series really illustrates many diagnostic challenges. The first important message would be how to deal with diagnostic uncertainty. If you have a progressive tumefactive CNS lesion and the clinical course, the imaging, and pathology don't quite fit together, CNS lymphoma and also T-cell CNS lymphoma need to remain on the differential, even if the first biopsy is inconclusive. And in this context, it's also important to avoid, of course, steroids before biopsy because they could cause regression of the lesion and therefore make the biopsy non-diagnostic, which is not the same as a negative biopsy.
Dr. Kait Nevel: Thank you for that. And before we get into some more of the details of the findings of your study, could you give us a brief overview of the background and methods of your study?
Dr. Katharina Schmidbauer: Sure. Primary CNS T-cell lymphoma is very rare and an aggressive subtype of CNS lymphoma. Most primary CNS lymphomas are B-cell lymphomas, but for T-cell lymphoma, we have very little systematic data. In fact, there are only three case series so far, and therefore we performed a multicenter retrospective study across three centers in Munich, Heidelberg, and Boston. And there we identified 16 adult patients with histologically confirmed primary CNS T-cell lymphoma without systemic disease treated between 2008 and '24. We looked at several levels of the disease, the clinical presentation, of course, histopathology, immunophenotype, T-cell receptor gene rearrangement testing, and if available, next-generation sequencing. And we also gathered MRI and PET imaging, treatment regimes, and of course outcome data. We also centrally reviewed the imaging and histopathology results in a multidisciplinary setting. And the study is mainly of course descriptive. However, we also tried to find associations that are relevant for outcome.
Dr. Kait Nevel: Getting into some of the things that you found or discovered through this study, what's one thing that surprised you?
Dr. Katharina Schmidbauer: One surprising finding of the study was the heterogeneous presentation on MRI and the high number of misdiagnosis on MRI in more than half of the patients. If you look into the imaging figures in the paper, these tumors can present as like any other disease. They can mimic neuroinflammatory disease, high-grade glioma, small vessel disease, and even meningioma or leptomeningeal disease. So the most common misdiagnosis was high-grade glioma, and indeed these lesions often showed very infiltrative growth patterns and almost streaky or perivascular patterns of contrast enhancement. And another interesting finding was the PET imaging. You might expect an aggressive tumor to show very high metabolic activity on FET PET, such as in high-grade glioma. But in our small subgroup of patients who underwent FET PET imaging, uptake was often relatively low to moderate or also completely photopenic, especially on FDG PET.
Dr. Kait Nevel: Yeah. I found that part of your findings fascinating that the imaging is so unlike what we see in the much more common diffuse large B-cell lymphoma that we see in the CNS. It's much more common than T-cell lymphoma. Was there any understanding of why the imaging looks so different, particularly on the PET and FET imaging, as you mentioned?
Dr. Katharina Schmidbauer: CNS lymphoma is a very heterogeneous entity itself. And we also know that from other PET imaging studies and CNS lymphoma that it can present heterogeneously with low or moderate, but also high uptake. And on MRI, we also know that in the CNS lymphoma, it's not always the common picture and the involvement of subcortical or deep brain structures. So it's a mimicking disease also in other studies, but in this rare subtype of T-cell lymphoma, this was pretty striking. Yeah.
Dr. Kait Nevel: One thing that you've already mentioned that stood out to me was the number of initial misdiagnoses before reaching a diagnosis of primary CNS T-cell lymphoma. How do we work as a team, do you think, when we're evaluating these patients to reach the correct diagnosis more quickly? Is there anything that we should be doing differently?
Dr. Katharina Schmidbauer: I feel the solution is early multidisciplinary discussion. We need to involve all disciplines pretty early, neuroradiology, neuropathology, and neurosurgery of course, and plan the diagnostic steps together, especially the biopsy. In some cases, we also used FET PET imaging to look for potential hotspots within the lesion that might provide a more representative biopsy target. Interestingly, of course, the uptake was only moderate in our cases, but I would potentially give it a try to have additional information when to plan and where to plan the biopsy. Of course, also histopathology needs to be regarded when we talk about misdiagnosis. I don't have a good explanation for why even when we obtain enough tissue, some characteristic findings we would expect such as T-cell receptor clonality were simply not detected. Yeah, this is not solved so far.
Dr. Kait Nevel: Has anything you discovered in your results changed the way that you evaluate patients with brain lesions that have yet to be diagnosed or maybe the patient who has an unusual imaging or unusual clinical history coupled with imaging that maybe isn't totally typical for anything?
Dr. Katharina Schmidbauer: Yeah, there are several things. I would be cautious about the diagnostic approach and sometimes especially the imaging or also the histopathology creates some uncertainty. If CNS T-cell lymphoma or CNS lymphoma in general is suspected, I would try very hard to obtain tissue before the application of steroids. This is maybe the first point. And next is how I deal with an apparently negative biopsy. I would distinguish between a truly negative biopsy and a non-diagnostic biopsy. So the histopathology findings show non-specific inflammation. For example, I would ask, was the patient exposed to steroids? Was enough viable tissue obtained? Was the right part of the lesion sampled? Was there necrosis? And also what you mentioned, how is the imaging pattern and does it fit also the clinical course? Is it relevant like the lesion behaves? Is it like an inflammatory disea
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