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Summary
• Introduction and Background of Keys Two Times
◦ Mattsuuii introduces the podcast and features Kese2x, also known as Marquis Moore from South Carolina.
◦ Kese introduces himself, mentioning his creative process and influences from artists like Young Thug, Gunna, and Kevin Gates.
◦ Matt shares his background, mentioning his work with Sony and his influences from artists like Eminem, Tech N9ne, and Mac Dre.
Suuii reveals that he wrote a song for Kevin Gates and expresses his desire to collaborate with 2x
• Mattsuuii's Musical Journey and Achievements
◦ Mattsuuii details his early musical influences, including his father, who was a singer-songwriter, and his mother, who almost got a record deal.
◦ He shares his experience of being a registered poet at 15 and a college-educated music producer and sound engineer.
◦ Matt discusses his work with Sony Universal and his new gig as a main sound engineer at a multi-million dollar studio outside San Francisco.
◦ Kese2x expresses admiration for Matt Sue's achievements and background in the music industry.
• Kese2x' Upbringing and Musical Beginnings
◦ Matt asks Kese about his upbringing and how it influenced his entry into the music industry.
◦ Kese shares his background from Lake City and Florence, South Carolina, and how music has always been a part of his family.
◦ He mentions starting to write music in 2018 and releasing his first music in 2022-2023.
◦ Mattsuuii shares his own background, including his time in juvenile hall for manslaughter and how music helped him stay out of trouble.
• Challenges and Inspirations in Music
◦ Kese talks about the challenges he faced, including being shot three times before turning 17 and dealing with family issues.
◦ Matt shares his own experiences, including being shot and dealing with a violent and addicted father.
◦ Both discuss how music has been a source of motivation and a way to express their experiences and emotions.
◦ Kese2x mentions his first project, "In Motion," and his influences, including artists like Migos and LL Cool J.
• Defining True Artistry and Rap vs. Hip Hop
◦ and 2x discuss the difference between rap and hip hop today, with Matt emphasizing the importance of evoking emotions.
◦ They define true artistry as being versatile and able to create across different genres, with Matt highlighting his own work in various styles.
◦ Kese2x shares his belief in creating his own music without outside help, while Mattsuuii discusses his experience ghostwriting for other artists.
◦ Both express their respect for true artistry and the importance of staying true to their own creative processes.
• Upcoming Projects and Collaborations
◦ Kese talks about his upcoming projects, including new music and visuals, and mentions working on an album starting in January.
◦ Suuii shares his recent release of an EP and plans for a 21-track LP, which he plans to push back slightly due to his production work for other artists.
◦ They discuss the possibility of collaborating, with Matt offering to send 2x some beats for free.
◦ Kese2x expresses interest in collaborating and mentions his independent status and the importance of maintaining control over his music.
• Independence vs. Major Labels
◦ Mattsuuii and Kese discuss the pros and cons of signing with major labels versus staying independent.
◦ Mattsuuii shares his experiences with distribution deals and the importance of keeping ownership of his masters.
◦ They discuss the example of Russ, who has been successful independently, and the importance of maintaining creative control.
◦ Kese2x expresses his preference for staying independent and the importance of not selling his soul for money or contracts.
• Final Thoughts and Shoutouts
◦ Matt and Kese wrap up the conversation, with Suuii expressing his admiration for Kese2x' talent.