The focus of this episode is Gnu Taler, an answer to the questions that Diem, various crypto currency shenanigans and other attempts at world domination via money pose to wider audience. Martin and Chris discuss the ins and outs of this approach with two of the main people behind the project, Christian Grothoff and Leo Wittman. So if you ever wanted to know about a totally legit alternative to any dubious currency monkey businesses, this is the episode you don't want to miss. Links GN Taler: https://www.taler.net/en GLS Bank: https://www.gls.de/ueber-uns/english Germany's cooperative banking sector (history of, read only if you're suffering from insomina): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Cooperative_Financial_Group GNU Net: https://www.gnunet.org/en/index.html Tor & onion sites: https://www.torproject.org Soviet Jeans: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30788492 No phone home: https://nophonehome.com The Spy and the Traitor: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Spy-Traitor-Greatest-Espionage-Story/dp/024118665X Azrael: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt22173666/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_1_nm_7_in_0_q_azr Dead or Alive: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0221111/?ref_=fn_ttl_ttl_2 NL Net Taler: https://nlnet.nl/taler