Episode 211- Interview with Shannon Shaffer- Part 1

In their work across the country, John and Jim are noticing a troubling trend . . . worship pastors and lead pastors butting heads. Sparring over worship styles, over who’s in charge, or over whose kingdom is being built. Today's episode contains Part 1 of their powerful conversation with Shannon Shaffer, Worship Pastor at Auburn Hills Christian Center, focusing on factors that cause turbulence between worship pastors and lead pastors, and practical steps worship pastors and lead pastors can take to work together more effectively.