Extra episode: Live from OWIN26 – Karl Im Brahm (Objectway) & Eric van der Deijl (ABN AMRO) on AI, resilience, and large-scale transformation

Last month, our colleagues Kees de Wit and Tom van Disseldorp travelled to Sorrento, Italy, at the invitation of Objectway for OWIN26. During this multi-day event, they spoke with C-level leaders and senior decision-makers from across the European financial services industry. In this extra episode of Leaders in Finance, Tom speaks with Eric van der Deijl, Country Operating Officer Germany at ABN AMRO, and Karl Im Brahm, CEO DAG Region at Objectway. They reflect on the first days of OWIN26 and discuss topics that are high on the agenda for many financial institutions today: efficiency, resilience, and the practical impact of AI. The conversation also touches on ABN AMRO’s integration of Hauck Aufhäuser Lampe and what it takes to manage complexity in large transformation programs. ***Leaders in Finance is made possible by the support of EY, Mogelijk Vastgoedfinancieringen, and Lepaya. More information about our partners is available at our partner page. *** Want to stay up to date with Leaders in Finance? Subscribe to the newsletter. *** Questions, suggestions, or feedback? We'd love to hear from you! You can reach us via email at [email protected] and check out our website. ***Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Executive Board, ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO ASN Bank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (member of the Executive Board, a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (Executive Board, Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (former President DNB), Onno Ruding (former minister of finance), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir), Laura van Geest (Executive Board, AFM), Katja Kok (CEO Van Lanschot CH), Ali Niknam (CEO bunq), Nick Bortot (CEO BUX), Petri Hofsté (supervisory board member, including at Rabobank and Achmea), Peter Paul de Vries (CEO Value8), Barbara Baarsma (CEO Rabo Carbon Bank), Jan van Rutte (C supervisory board member, including at Rabobank and Achmea), Marguerite Soeteman-Reijne (Chair Aon Holdings), Lidwin van Velden (CEO Nederlandse Waterschapsbank), Jan-Willem van der Schoot (CEO Mastercard NL), Joanne Kellermann (Chair PFZW), Steven Maijoor (former Chair ESMA), Radboud Vlaar (CEO Finch Capital), Jos Baeten (CEO a.s.r.), Karin van Baardwijk (CEO Robeco), Annette Mosman (CEO APG).