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NEW Episode 823 · Season 1 Oct 23, 2026 · 52 min

#823: The Goal Might Not Be The Goal with Michael Collier

I’m turning 50 in March, and like I did before 40, I’ve been asking what I’d tell my younger self. Something I read earlier this year really stuck with me: the only two people you need respect from are the eight-year-old you and the 80-year-old you. When I look back, what I remember most isn’t the milestones. It’s the moments we were laughing. That’s why this conversation with my friend Michael “Disney Mike” Collier hit home. Mike spent 12 years at Disney, went from college program student to Disney Ambassador, became a top salesperson, then jumped into flipping, wholesaling, lending and eventually real estate, where he’s now a three-time Icon at eXp. And he’s honest about something most of us won’t admit: hitting the goal and then feeling empty a couple of days later. “Okay, so now what?” Jesse Itzler says one of the worst things we can do is accomplish a major milestone and not immediately reset the goal. Mike and I dug into the other side of that: making sure the goal you’re chasing is actually yours, and not somebody else’s goal that just looked cool from the back of the room. We talk about what you see on stage versus the rest of the story, your 168 hours, deciding what “enough” is, and choosing the right lever so you’re not climbing the ladder faster on the wrong wall. Key Topics Covered: * Why the peaks are great, but you learn the most about yourself in the valleys * Chasing shiny objects vs. keeping the main thing the main thing * Mike’s Disney journey and the empty feeling after hitting Icon * Resetting the goal and building sub-goals toward a bigger goal * Seeing both sides of success before you decide what you want * Your 168 hours, and why “enough” has to be defined * Moving to higher price points: more of the right clients, not more volume * The Speakers Alliance, and the one thing AI can’t replace * Identity, pigeonholing, and trading toxic fuel for purpose When you’re building that larger goal and those sub goals on your way to it, you have to make sure that the goal is actually the goal. – Michael Collier This one’s for you if you’ve ever hit the number and wondered, “Now what?” Connect With Us * Book your Clarity call now at 7figurecall.com * Download the AI & Leverage Toolkit now and uncover your biggest leverage opportunities at audit.7FigureBP.com * Discover How Agents Are Using Funnels, Content & AI to Predictably Close 4+ Deals a Month. Save your seat for the webinar: 7FigureBP.com * Instagram, LinkedIn, and Facebook: @johnkitchenscoach This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit johnkitchenscoachpodcast.substack.com

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